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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

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    I suppose the only way it could have been Izuna (and I'm not saying it should have been) would be if Madera used the last of his life to revive his brother with his Rinnegan, almost as payment or retribution for Izuna's selfless act of giving him his eyes when he lost his sight.

    Really it's no less plausible then Tobi being Obito.
    Yes but if he used the last of his life to revive Izuna then how would he give his rinnegan to Nagato if he had used the last of his life using the Samsara of Heavenly Life Technique and explain the eye of the moon plan the only one who could have explain it would have been black Zetsu who has Madara knowledge but was only created to assisted Obito who had not yet reached his full potential. I just feel like it would be a lot of hole in the story and it would take a long series of flash backs to explain.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by b7718 View Post
    I suppose the only way it could have been Izuna (and I'm not saying it should have been) would be if Madera used the last of his life to revive his brother with his Rinnegan, almost as payment or retribution for Izuna's selfless act of giving him his eyes when he lost his sight.

    Really it's no less plausible then Tobi being Obito.
    Yes but if he used the last of his life to revive Izuna then how would he give his rinnegan to Nagato if he had used the last of his life using the Samsara of Heavenly Life Technique and explain the eye of the moon plan the only one who could have explain it would have been black Zetsu who has Madara knowledge but was only created to assisted Obito who had not yet reached his full potential. I just feel like it would be a lot of hole in the story and it would take a long series of flash backs to explain.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by SSJ3Gotenks View Post
    Yes it is.. that is dumbest thing I have ever heard oh how about I just throw some random charcter that I have mentioned very seldom (like once or twice) and then make him the biggest badass in Naruto next to Madara.. Do you even read what you type seriously that is the dumbest thing I have ever read.. :flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw:
    Why don't you be a big boy and explain to the rest of us why exactly it's so preposterous. Collect your thoughts, use words, and express your view. C'mon, we'll play this like T-ball, there's no losers here, you just keep swinging away till you hit something.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

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    Yes but if he used the last of his life to revive Izuna then how would he give his rinnegan to Nagato if he had used the last of his life using the Samsara of Heavenly Life Technique and explain the eye of the moon plan the only one who could have explain it would have been black Zetsu who has Madara knowledge but was only created to assisted Obito who had not yet reached his full potential. I just feel like it would be a lot of hole in the story and it would take a long series of flash backs to explain.

    Hmm... You'll have to bare with me, I just came up with that explanation off the top of my head but I'll give it go. Lets see....

    Well... He could have located Madera's body, just like Obito located Nagato's and took his eyes, and transplanted them to Nagato. In effect it's the same idea Madera had. Madera could have made the Black Zetsu to assist Izuna as well. If we want to get crazy, for fun we could even go as far as to reveal that the Moon eye plan was Izuna's plan all along, and he discussed it with Madera before he died. That would be something different.
     
         
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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by b7718 View Post
    Why don't you be a big boy and explain to the rest of us why exactly it's so preposterous. Collect your thoughts, use words, and express your view. C'mon, we'll play this like T-ball, there's no losers here, you just keep swinging away till you hit something.
    I don't really need to, someone beat me to it I could add other points to the argument but it is obviously going to fall on deaf ears as you have formed your own insane opinion and theory about what you think the manga should be.

    I will add one point though if for some insane reason Madara did revive his brother with the Rinne Tensei he would come back without his eyes and then what would he be able to do... oh I am guessing you would say take Madara's eyes but Madara had already given them to Nagato to enact his plan..which would also make him being able to use the Rinne Tensei in the first place impossible becasue guess what he didn't have the Rinnegan when he died he stole someone else's sharingan again just facts that blow your stupid theory away but please go on seeing as how your so much smarter than me...
    :flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw:

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by SSJ3Gotenks View Post
    I don't really need to someone beat me to it I could a other points the argument but is obviously going to fall on deaf ears as you have formed your own insane opinion and theory about what you think the manga should be.

    I will add one point though if for some insane reason Madara did revive his brother with the Rinne Tensei he would come back without his eyes and then what would he be able to do... oh I am guessing you would say take Madara's eyes but Madara had already given them to Nagato to enact his plan..which would also make him being able to use the Rinne Tensei in the first place impossible becasue guess what he didn't have the Rinnegan when he died he stole someone else's sharingan again just facts that blow your stupid theory away but please go on seeing as how your so much smarter than me...
    :flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw:

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    .... can someone please translate this to English for me? I'm kinda having fun with this whole Izuna/Tobi scenario, and would love to see if I can answer whatever he's asking.

    For the record, I did try to read it.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

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    .... can someone please translate this to English for me? I'm kinda having fun with this whole Izuna/Tobi scenario, and would love to see if I can answer whatever he's asking.

    For the record, I did try to read it.


    Really if you can't read that I think you need to go back to 1st grade.. And what's funy to me the guy who can't spell MADARA is saying something to me about a few punctuation errors.. Well Mr. grammar police I have fixed it but you probably still can't read it as it would actually require you to have an IQ higher than a rock so.... yeah there's that

    By the way I wasn't asking anything I was just explaining to you how stupid your theory was.. I got more so please feel free to ask I love making people like you look dumber than you already are..
     
         
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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post
    Yeah i know this thread should be outdated but by re-reading some mangapages, i found this one and i still find it hard to believe it's Obito who was talking here



    Like really? :sy: Kishi changed Tobi's identity at the last minute. I'm sure of it
    actually no it was never changed. Think about it kishi has been showing us signs it was obito from.time. the first time was wheb kakashi tried kamui on him n he told him it wouldnt work n he stop it. Next if it wasnt obito thdn tell how would they even land a hit on him. It was becauze they shared eyes that is why they were able to touch him. And if kakashi didnt have a sharingan and obito had both his kamuis he would be unstoppable and would have beaten the 4th eazy.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Ok ok...

    If I were Kishi I could just say that reviving someone brings them back as a whole. I mean I'm pretty sure everyone during the Pain Invasion arc wasn't fully intact, especially with that almighty push, but I didn't see everyone running around with missing limbs.

    But if you want to try to insist that I can't do that then.... Hmm... I got it. Madera created the black Zetsu to perform an eye transplant. He did have access to an addition eye, otherwise going by the events that did transpire he wouldn't have had any when he met Obito for the first time. So.. Izuna's given the spare eye by black Zetsu, bing bang boom. Izuna takes Madera's eye's and gives them to Nagato.

    I really can't read the rest of your question, your paragraph's like nails on a chalkboard to my eyes.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Izuna is deas tobi iz obito live with it. If it werent obito kakashi wouldnt have that eye to help counter him.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    One prob abouy ur theory madara planted the rinnegN before black zetsu.was born
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by AllseeingSharingan View Post
    One prob abouy ur theory madara planted the rinnegN before black zetsu.was born
    Well for starters this isn't a theory. Someone inquired how could Izuna possibly be Tobi, and I took up the challenge of answering it.

    And if the backstory was being rewritten, then all you have to do is have Madara revive Izuna a bit sooner in the timeline, that's all.
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    For ppl who say it should have been izuna. If it were him he would be as old a madara and on life support be real guys .
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by AllseeingSharingan View Post
    One prob abouy ur theory madara planted the rinnegN before black zetsu.was born
    Once again, just revive the timeline a bit. If Tobi wasn't Obito then Obito's timeline as we know it means nothing. We're speculating here people, it's a fun "What if scenario", that's actually not to bad, less plot holes haha
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by SSJ3Gotenks View Post
    Really if you can't read that I think you need to go back to 1st grade.. And what's funy to me the guy who can't spell MADARA is saying something to me about a few punctuation errors.. Well Mr. grammar police I have fixed it but you probably still can't read it as it would actually require you to have an IQ higher than a rock so.... yeah there's that

    By the way I wasn't asking anything I was just explaining to you how stupid your theory was.. I got more so please feel free to ask I love making people like you look dumber than you already are..
    Don't feel left out or ignored, I didn't forget about my special little pal. Alright, where were we? Oh.. That went way beyond grammar and spelling brother, that came down to sentence structure. I'm an awful speller, but you can understand what I'm trying to say. So why don't you try to tell me again how "stupid" my make believe scenario is? What makes it so much more "stupider" then the real life Obito one?
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by AllseeingSharingan View Post
    For ppl who say it should have been izuna. If it were him he would be as old a madara and on life support be real guys .
    Not necessarily.

    It's been speculated that Izuna soon died after giving his eyes to Madara, so it's safe to say that he died at a young age. Madara said he didn't unlock his Rinnegan till later in his life, so in all fairness he could have revived Izuna sometime just before Nagato received his eyes. That would make him only 20 years older then Nagato tops.

    If that happened then he would have been around Nagato's age when he attacked the village with the 9 tails, and Minato would have fought a man rather then a young adult.
     
         
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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    obito was a bad decision by kishi
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by b7718 View Post
    Don't feel left out or ignored, I didn't forget about my special little pal. Alright, where were we? Oh.. That went way beyond grammar and spelling brother, that came down to sentence structure. I'm an awful speller, but you can understand what I'm trying to say. So why don't you try to tell me again how "stupid" my make believe scenario is? What makes it so much more "stupider" then the real life Obito one?
    First of all the timeline that you mentioned..
    It would not be some minor adjustments it would have to be completely rewritten...
    How would Nagato have gotten the Rinnegan?? (it was given to him by Madara) which by the way makes it impossible for Madara to revive Izuna..
    We are all assuming that Izuna and Madara had this great relationship even after he took his own brother's eyes... Really go ahead brother take my eyes and kill me....sure we will always be bffs....
    There were no hints to any of this in the manga none whatsoever which makes this even worse than what you dislike about the Obito/Tobi thing..
    Kishi has been hinting that Tobi was Obito from the very beginning people like you are just too stupid, blind, or just plain illiterate to realize it.
    I mean the biggest clue is in his name Obito----Tobi it;s just his name rearranged
     
         
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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    some one answer me this ?

    do the timelines fit ? .... obito going to nagato , fighting minato ...?

    cause i think when obito fought minato , nagato was being trained by jiraya .. right ?
     
         

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    Re: Tobi was never meant to Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by labiancareality View Post
    some one answer me this ?

    do the timelines fit ? .... obito going to nagato , fighting minato ...?

    cause i think when obito fought minato , nagato was being trained by jiraya .. right ?
    The timelines have already been explained in the manga in the flashback chapters.. as well as Obito's size difference compared to Kakashi as his body was part Zetsu.
     
         

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