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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    Right now my favourite person is Kankuro, and I think we need to see some more SASORRIIIIIIII!!!!! action :3 If only he had the third Kazekage puppet A man can dream...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    After a little fighting between Sas and Garaa's team

    1. Naruto, Yamato and Kakashi will rescue Garaa's team from Sas
    2. Naruto Yamat and Kakashi will rescue Sas from Garaa's team
    3. Naruto Yamato and Kakashi will protect Danzo from Sas

    or we will have a long drawn out battle between Garaa and Sas who continuously try to convince each other that they are fighting for the wrong side/cause.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Mystikk****** View Post
    yea i know juuken its like sasuke isnt jus fighting raikage he's fighting everyone else.. an keep in mind he's been fightng samurai before him an raikage even started.. an now more people join sasuke blocks there attacks he's overpowerd?? lol yea rite people were saying one on one raikage would pawn sasuke but truthfully if this fight would have been one on one from the begining to the end then raikage wouldve lost... point blank. im not saying raikage sucks because he is a very good shinobi but as u can c raikage needs to be healed an sasuke is now fightng another kage an his two best shinobi's all alone... now people who else could fight raikage and his men, hurt raikage, and then start fighting with another kage??? nobody except naruto and madara.

    o juuken about the haters and sasuke's defensive tactics nobody says anything when gaara hides in his little ball an attacks with his sand/// so i dont wanna hear sasuke is winning because of his defense// an even if thats so.... there only making there self look worse if there saying sasuke is only winning because of his defense lol there basically stating that sasuke could win without even attacking. hahah sasuke haters are idiots, they'll say anything to prove sasuke sucks.
    that is bull, Sasuke against the Samurai is like a human stepping on ants. When the Raikage showed up, Sasuke was at full strength, so stop trying to create falacies on Sasuke being weak from the beginning cause he was already in fights. When Raikage showed up, he was completely fine as well as the Raikage. Raikage only had the upper hand because he's a master in raiton jutsus while Sasuke knows only those related to chidori. The Raikage also was to fast for even Sasuke's mangekyou sharingan and his brute strength is what put the bar between him and Sasuke way apart. Sasuke is down to his final jutsu while Raikage still has many more up his sleeve, even forbidden ones as he is afterall the Raikage, what kage wouldn't know forbidden techniques? Sasuke is far from kicking anyones @s$ here, even if it were to remain one on one rather then 5 on 1.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by kaos1012 View Post
    good chapter

    but like i said on another thread i think there making sasuke too powerful.. im a sasuke fan but even i can see that kishi is making him overpowered.. like rele what can stop him now?
    i mean we dont know what "power" itachi gave naruto but still come on... they need to do something with naruto to even things out. and i dont mean learning a new rasengan :/

    mangekyou sharingan
    ameratsu
    susanoo
    GOD??

    they made him wayyy to powerful too fast in my opinion..
    i can agree, but i know naruto will learn things that will even the playing field and or make him permanently surpass sasuke. itachi power will be something but the 9tails is still the greatest source of power in the naruto world. so give it time my friend
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by lestatzpwnz View Post
    Well personaly it's been along time since I've posted here also. I don't know if anyone remembers me much or at all, but I've always been right that why I don't post much because if I'm not sure. I wont bother looking like an idiot. Anyways idk why people are thinking Sasuke is over powered. Hell Naruto,,, Sage mood...... Father 4th....... D00d comon 1 vs. 1 Naruto would totaly killed Sasuke, he just defeated all of the pains. Shunuo or whatever could not protect Sasuke from Narutos he would cut it to 10000000000 pieces, He could take on 7 level high lvl ninja's<pain> at one time. There nothing that 1 ninja even Sasuke could do against him. All Sasuke has is his eyes anywaysm and what kakashi taught him early on Naruto has alot more if you think about it and we havnt really seen him do anything since he learned who his father was, and just last issue kakashi basically aknownldge that the 4th was Narutos father.
    i can agree, also j-man told naruto to never show any ninja friend or foe all of you jutsu. so naruto has really been holding back things until its truly needed.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by arxeza View Post
    Right now my favourite person is Kankuro, and I think we need to see some more SASORRIIIIIIII!!!!! action :3 If only he had the third Kazekage puppet A man can dream...
    what about, puppet creats 100 or more puppet? or does he has sasori's technique too?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by naturo9 View Post
    what about, puppet creats 100 or more puppet? or does he has sasori's technique too?
    I'd like to hope Kankuro is now at Sasori's level if he is manipulating his body, but Im not sure if It'll work that way. If the fight drags on a little that'd be something to keep us keen is seeing Kankuro's full arsonal. Wouldnt mind if Sakura showed up, then met Naruto and co., then rocked up at the fight while Kankuro was using Sasori, then freaked out and died and never returns :3

    Or maybe they can have her fight like when she almost became a cool character for a while, I wanna like Sakura, but Kishi is too stereotypical a shounen manga writer to break formula (in spite of his success I might add :P)

    That being said I like how Kishi is setting up for a war here, because this is an international faux pas on Sasuke. Im still more interested in Tsuchikage, Mizukage, Ao and Danzo right now though :P I just think they're cool characters.
     
         

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    Hey can someone explain to me the part in the manga right after Gaara says " I know " and sand comes out. Did he atack sasuke or sasuke atacked him with amaterasu and he blocked it with the sand? Since it's confusing to me because sasuke said " I can't believe i had to guard myself with an enton" . What is "an enton" anyway? Naruto related or an english word i don't know ( since english isn't my first language) ? And in the picture it looks like gaara blocks the black flame. And yes i know gaara's defense can be used as an atack too , but it didn't look to me like an atack. Or that black flame that the sand hit was in fact sasuke inside susano with amaterasu on? since i think i see like a piece of cape or something in that flame thing , but it might just be me. Anyway whatever it is , please clear that out for me. thank you in advance.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Silentium View Post
    Hey can someone explain to me the part in the manga right after Gaara says " I know " and sand comes out. Did he atack sasuke or sasuke atacked him with amaterasu and he blocked it with the sand? Since it's confusing to me because sasuke said " I can't believe i had to guard myself with an enton" . What is "an enton" anyway? Naruto related or an english word i don't know ( since english isn't my first language) ? And in the picture it looks like gaara blocks the black flame. And yes i know gaara's defense can be used as an atack too , but it didn't look to me like an atack. Or that black flame that the sand hit was in fact sasuke inside susano with amaterasu on? since i think i see like a piece of cape or something in that flame thing , but it might just be me. Anyway whatever it is , please clear that out for me. thank you in advance.
    No. gaara attached him and then sasuke blocked the attached with a fire (amaterasu).
     
         

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    Ive said a couple times already that kishi is obviously building up to sasuke loosing his sight at a rapid rate making itachi's eyes his only way to continue on his path of hatred and madara wud never let a pair of good eyes just go to waste so im sure he kept Itachi's.I noticed it but was in dis-beleif that it was sasori but it has the heart peice and everything so maybe its just sasori's "dead" puppet body,which is cheap, kankuro shud be experienced enough to build a puppet to suit his needs by now, unless that is one but modeled after sasori.I didnt think there would be ninja in the manga dumber than naruto[i am naruto fan].. raikage takes the prize for bigest dumbfu*k in narutoverse as ive said what happened was the result of "dumbfu*k meets genius" raikage seemed to just not kno what else to do and if he had other effective options that just means he is an even bigger fool as he was about to loose his leg as well, all this i said bout raikage i will take bak if he has a healer in his village who can regenerate limbs or able to make battle usable prostetics even tho a prostetic cant compare to real flesh, raikage pwns btw but hes too rash.It seems sasuke's "enton" is a fire tech that can stop powerful physical attacks as he stated he used it to guard against gaara, and it has to be or he wouldnt have used the "enton" to guard raikage's kick -[sasuke used "enton' kagu tsuchi" to counter raikages kik]- bcuz he knows raikage's strenth so he wud have went susano if he was in real trouble. People keep saying sasuke was being owned by raikage but raikages subbordinates were suprised when they saw raikages electric armour meaning its one of his most serious techniques so raikage was fightin basicaly all out from begining while sasuke tried his chidori which failed so he stepped his game up to serious mode[aka facing a beast so go into best mode as well].Sasuke took out shi wit a genjutsu and used a chidori then went susano... if u remember itachi was chakra dry when he went susano so i wud asume even if it actualy does take some chak its not a massive amount of chak,then sasuke used some amaterasu so i wud asume he maybe has 1/4 of his chak maybe less so he still got alota fight left if he uses his chak wisely.Fyi to all u people who havent noticed, gaara dosent stand a chance against sasuke anymore... im not sure if the chidori senbon has good peircing ability but if it does, some senbon could peirce the sand and block gaara's chakra, if not all he needs is to get within 5 meters of gaara's real body and he can drop him wit a chidori sword as gaara wudnt expect the extention and he would have thought he was safe behind his sand, so gaara being there is no big deal cuz unless temari can counter the raiton in time sasuke might only need 1 raiton tech to drop gaara, sasuke probly wud just imobalize gaara not actualy try to kill him i think.Sasuke has been long since gone if u check bak to his chat wit madara when sasuke said he wud share his hatred by killing all you love if u mocked his way of life so yeah i was not surprised at any point in this chap. I think this incident will end with sasuke beastin on his numerous high leveled opponents some more then madara come in and get him as he wont be able to fight another kage lvl batle after this. Damn this was long but it basicaly covered any post i wud make until next week lol.

    -Ok i looked at this after i posted it. wth why is it so long and it sounded so short in my head :confused: lol-
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by kydo View Post
    if u remember itachi was chakra dry when he went susano
    AGAIN...itachi's chakra was not dried up because he used susano'o, he was injured before his fight with sasuke.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    sasuke rules !!.... But looks at the contrast.... Sasuke : strong... Too short sighted...
    Naruto : strong.... Too far sighted.... What a combination !
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by stigie78 View Post
    AGAIN...itachi's chakra was not dried up because he used susano'o, he was injured before his fight with sasuke.
    stigie' i was simply saying by the time itachi activated susano it was near the end of the fight... sasuke stated that itachi shud be out of chak, realy what i was trying to say has nothing realy to do with itachi, its about susano... i was sayin that bcuz itachi was able to use his susano at the end of a hard battle, susano cant require a massive amount of chakra and as u say yes his illness shud have made it even harder on him so susano shudnt be that stressful to the user as itachi who was dying at the time used it briliantly to own sasuke/orochimaru.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by warriorex222 View Post
    i dont know what will i do every friday when shippuden is over, i hope there will be series about adult naruto:D
    and i dont think sasuke will be the last boss, i mean this anime is about friendship(lame), sasuke will die or he and naruto will use chidori and rasengan combo on madara :D
    a RS and amaterasu combo would be more likely, since wind increases fire power
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    i can fu***** believe it, is madara actually expecting for sasuke to fully have susanoo, and then grab his eyes???? is that what means to be complete, i mean the insane absolute defence, SUSANOO?

    do madara know naruto blood? i mean who is his father?

    i really think that raikage will die, because if kishi didn't killed killerbee he is going to kill raikage, which is actually a pity cause i like him very much, he rocks.

    if not, what's going to be the reason to killerbee come back?!?!!!

    come on sasuke can't win them alll, he can own one of them but not alll
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    kishi is just showing everyone that sasuke and naruto surpassed their masters...

    as sasuke's technique surpassed itachi

    naruto surpassed jiraiya's as well...

    yes sasuke tried his double mangekyo the first time...yes he will pawn all those who stand before him right now, just like the comparison when pain pawned everyone (even kakashi) in hidden leaf then naruto defeating him...by the way, we still don't know the full capability of this...

    kishi is just showing everyone that sasuke and naruto surpassed their masters...

    as sasuke's technique surpassed itachi

    naruto surpassed jiraiya's as well...

    yes sasuke tried his double mangekyo the first time...yes he will pawn all those who stand before him right now, just like the comparison when pain pawned everyone (even kakashi) in hidden leaf then naruto defeating him...by the way, we still don't know the full capability of this...

    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/444/06/



    as minato said, no power can stop sharingan except someone who has a special one...
    sasuke's technique always runs out of chakra...but sage mode has the recharge factor plus the fact that he has the kyuubi inside him...

    and right now as that picture instates, he can combine both chakras...

    the destructive double mangekyou vs the restorative powers of sage + kyuubi...

    as minato said, no power can stop sharingan except someone who has a special one...
    sasuke's technique always runs out of chakra...but sage mode has the recharge factor plus the fact that he has the kyuubi inside him...

    and right now as that picture instates, he can combine both chakras...

    the destructive double mangekyou vs the restorative powers of sage + kyuubi...
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by stigie78 View Post
    i agree with you in most of it..BUT, in order to obtain the mangekyu you dont have to kill anyone, you have to watch the person closest to you die.That in part happened when itachi died. although itachi gave so many powers to sasuke that maybe after susano'o his new jutsu will be called......

    SUSANO'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O'O (forgot to add a couple of more "O's) which will have 2 totsuga swords and 4 shields. kind of. lol

    to tell you the truth, those who say that sasuke is not being overpowered...PLEASE. his ass was almost beat down by deidara and killerbee a couple of mangas ago and now he is fighting i a similar level to 2 kages with their subordinates. Think again

    A couple of days ago i posted that the only reason that itachi had to die was to let sas' character to be developed, that's it.

    and also i have not received any answers on why itachi was injured or ill before his fight with sasuke. kishi better explain what happened to him soon.
    deidara wasnt even close to beating sasuke, and if he wanted to kill killerbee he would be dead, he was already burning in eternal flames, and stop saying gaara saved sasuke, you wish, if he just took 4 jutsu at the same time time no reason he couldnt take a leg drop. raikages leg would be on fire and then he`d really be a cripple.
     
         

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    I hope Sasuke will die. He is too dark
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    Discussion: I have to say that from the beginning Sasuke had something to counter the Raikage (Enton Kagu Tsuchi) whether it would have completely defended him (like Gaaras nearly impenetrable sand) or if his leg went through the spiked black flames who can say that he couldnt have used the later on more evolved Susanoo to then shield himself. Take a look below:

    Naruto 464 page 02 | One Manga

    First off so were all clear, Sasuke is not saying Amaterasu but rather Enton Kagu Tsuchi. Okay I did my homework and this was different from Itachis regular black flames. There isnt much info on this, although I looked this up individually and Ka: of course is fire, Gu: means tool/counter for armor (not exactly sure which it is) lastly Tsuchi: which of course means either earth or soil (Im going with earth). So, what I have established is that Sasuke has taken Amaterasu and further modified it (not sure if earth plays a roll mixed in with Amaterasu). Itachi passing down Amaterasu and Susanoo or Sasuke gaining the two techs can still be debated but in my opinion it does seem to point to Sasuke attaining the techs himself since they both have gone through different forms of evolution. To add even more to my theory Sasukes Susanoo still havent brought out the two legendary weapons even through further developing his Susanoo.

    Naruto 464 page 03 | One Manga

    A ton of Sasuke haters say that Sasuke saying what meant "What!?" (saved by sand) I see it as Sasuke saying "What!?" (surprised by the sand interfering) but I think he knew that his Enton Kagu Tsuchi if played would have been able to act a s a shield and protect him from the kick drop.

    Naruto 464 page 06 | One Manga

    The Raikage quoted "Why have you interfered, Kazekage!? If I dont like your answer I wont let you off easily!!" Gaara then quotes "If you had continued the attack the black flames would have harmed you even more, besides I want to talk to Uchiha Sasuke" to which Raikage responds "Hmph!". This tells me in my opinion that Gaara came in to stop the Raikage from further harming himself and to speak to Sasuke. The Raikages response tells me he was fine with Gaaras answer, which meant that he himself acknowledged Gaaras interference was to stop him from further injuring himself and that his attack wouldnt have been worth the risk and damage. I think Gaara being one who is an excessive defensive fighter would have recognized Sasukes intention with Enton. Raikage had to sever his arm so he isnt out for the count yet seeing as to how strong he is but he also then again is not exactly the same anymore.

    Naruto 464 page 10 | One Manga

    Gaara no namida (tear), I see nothing homosexual here but rather Gaara shedding a tear at the fact that Sasuke and himself are so similar but the one difference is that Sasuke is harder to change than even he was.

    Naruto 464 page 12 | One Manga

    First off what I found a little funny was Kurotsuchi whom seemed to be enjoying/fascinated at how Sasuke handling himself against everyone else (sarcasm ends here). If everyone else hasnt already noticed, Gaara's sand didn't go through Sasukes Enton Amaterasu. People have stated that anything can pass through fire in reality but in Kishis world it couldn't penetrate due to the fire; as if it had weight to it. In other words if this is true than if Gaara hadnt interfered then not only would the Enton Jutsu act as a shield but had also been manipulated into the form of spikes which could have been defensive and offense simultaneously. This is my opinion, Im saying that it would have blocked and harmed Raikage. Take another closer look at that chapter and see what Sasuke tells Gaara which was that he had to "guard" against himself with Enton. It does seem that Sasuke was confident in his Enton Jutsu being able to defend and offense. He even praised Gaara for still having such a powerful sand defense.

    Naruto 464 page 16 | One Manga

    I think that this version of Susanoo having defended against all the attacks sent his way and having some meat and muscles tells some sort of story, though Im not too sure of yet. This darker version of Susanoo could be passed down by his brother or attained through Sasukes own Mangekyou. It could go either way (not confirmed). Well all have to wait till the next chapter to see if this controversy can unravel any more. I believe in the past when Sasuke said that hed crush Konoha was an attempt convince Madara he was on his side. Lets not forget either that there is a possibility that Sasuke is using Madara just as mush as he is using Sasuke.

    Naruto 464 page 17 | One Manga

    I think in my personal opinion that if Sasuke was done for or has to be saved so badly like many people have said then why did Karin a chakra sensor rather not instead say Sasukes chakra is almost gone and then attempt to warn him some how.

    Predictions: I really am not sure now to even make a guess everything is so mixed together and turned inside out; I think it could go any way due to Kishis unpredictable twists.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by sekill View Post
    I hope Sasuke will die. He is too dark
    If Naruto cant get him to change (and I dont thimk he can) He will Die
     
         

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