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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBen View Post
    Ok maybe i am thinking of the wrong jutsu you guys are saying but what i was refering to was when he was fighting itachi in the beging he was sitting by a tree and said i will have to use that j-man held his hand up to the sun and the flashback of the end of naruto(1) was there and then when it came out kakashi said NOW naruto and then u hear OODAAMA rasengan ... to my knowledege there is no forbiden jutsu that j man gave ... unless you are talking about the frog key but then again ... i am not sure so please specify what it is we are disscussing what i gathered the forbidden jutsu at the very start of shippuden was oodamaa rasengan... sas was stoped by oro from using kirin.
    I know the knife fights are gay bro i'm stateing that he could do alot more and yes how you use it shows growth as well but the point i was making is that we are 464 chapters into it and he KNOWS who his father is yet he dosen't ask anyone about it it's like meh who cares and he just goes on... could you imgine the flying thunder god with his clones ! man hahaha madara would get f'd all i ment was that in a naruoverse of infinate possibiltys to only limit yourself is foolish he has sage mode now he can use his S-rank rasenshariken and make awesome rasengan's so now he has to go out and learn more that's all i am saying cause as it stands right now sas would mess naruto up just because of his lack of jutsu he cannot use FRS cause sas is fire and it'll just backfire and blow him up and he has no sign yet of a second element even tho sasuke is balling with both a fire and lightning s-rank finisher.. i'm saying he needs a wider variety of jutsu i gave those as examples. but go back 3 years ago he didn't have wind wind was new to shippuden right he only had 2 jutsu threwout the whole 220 episodes haha Thank God for the fox or naruto would have been pwnd
    in closeing my arguement is that naruto is underdevepoled and it is so boring watching the same thing over and over
    just compare sas or Shika fights (exciting cause you never know whats going down)
    Naruto i garentee you he will use his shawdowclones as a distraction then try and rasengan there face off when in a pinch he busts out the fox so....

    Sorry again for the long posts but there are lots of thing's i'd like to know cause i am just getting lost
    Ican understand ur frustration but if kishi shows all of naruto new move right move then he will have to make up new move or repeat old moves from the past so he is just trying to make the manga more exciting for naruto and sasuke fight.

    and ihave to disagree with naruto only have FRS as S-rank tech, i think he knows how to use the god of death tech since considerin there were only three people in the whole world who knew that tech and all of them are dead (j-man, 4th, 3rd hokage) so if j-man didn't teach naruto that tech then that powerful tech will be gone forever.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by narutosharingan View Post
    if naruto starts showing of new tech then what will he do and show in the big fight with sasuke.
    yea but he also is not progressing his charactor futher naruto is in a slump
    like for example you know madara is setting up sas+naru
    what did itachi give him?
    what is the key for?
    naruto now has knowledge of the 4th yet dosen't show any sign to learn about his dad or his mother for that matter to aid in his growth
    he spent all 3 years with j-man and j-man was sick but you compare naruto to other ninja's
    oro - Huge supply of tech's
    sas- we are still seeing more and more use of tech's come about
    pain- wide use of the 6th paths each displayin use of 6 techs
    kak - 3 elements known (lightning, water, and earth) and wide use of tech's copy ninja :P
    and then naruto - shadow clone and rasengan hahahahaha oooo and the fox
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by narutosharingan View Post
    Ican understand ur frustration but if kishi shows all of naruto new move right move then he will have to make up new move or repeat old moves from the past so he is just trying to make the manga more exciting for naruto and sasuke fight.

    and ihave to disagree with naruto only have FRS as S-rank tech, i think he knows how to use the god of death tech since considerin there were only three people in the whole world who knew that tech and all of them are dead (j-man, 4th, 3rd hokage) so if j-man didn't teach naruto that tech then that powerful tech will be gone forever.
    Hey man i just wanna send my respect out to all people on this site !
    i'm prolly pissing all you guys off too ... haha i'm sorry bro's
    Well that jutsu would be epically worthless as it would kill him ... so yea j-man would have tought it but i dunno why ... plus you had the scroll that the 4th wrote up so it's prolly all in there
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

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    Hey man i just wanna send my respect out to all people on this site !
    i'm prolly pissing all you guys off too ... haha i'm sorry bro's
    Well that jutsu would be epically worthless as it would kill him ... so yea j-man would have tought it but i dunno why ... plus you had the scroll that the 4th wrote up so it's prolly all in there
    well he will have to do something with all the bijus that are out there with madara when he defeats him and again he might have perfected that tech so that he doesn't have to die. you never know
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBen View Post
    yea but he also is not progressing his charactor futher naruto is in a slump
    like for example you know madara is setting up sas+naru
    what did itachi give him?
    what is the key for?
    naruto now has knowledge of the 4th yet dosen't show any sign to learn about his dad or his mother for that matter to aid in his growth
    he spent all 3 years with j-man and j-man was sick but you compare naruto to other ninja's
    oro - Huge supply of tech's
    sas- we are still seeing more and more use of tech's come about
    pain- wide use of the 6th paths each displayin use of 6 techs
    kak - 3 elements known (lightning, water, and earth) and wide use of tech's copy ninja :P
    and then naruto - shadow clone and rasengan hahahahaha oooo and the fox
    well lets break it down

    sasuke - mainly sharingan tech, and varriant of chidori (learnes lightning befor naruto did)

    oro- psycho maniac (thats all i got for him sry) no offense to any oro fans:D

    pain- inherited those tech

    kakashi- Only hard working ninja i can think of

    so if u look at naruto he just learned wind, sagemode and after that it was all fighting for him so he didn't get any time to improve on his tech or to learn new tech. so i won't be so frustrated about it.:D:D:D
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by narutosharingan View Post
    well lets break it down

    sasuke - mainly sharingan tech, and varriant of chidori (learnes lightning befor naruto did)

    oro- psycho maniac (thats all i got for him sry) no offense to any oro fans:D

    pain- inherited those tech

    kakashi- Only hard working ninja i can think of

    so if u look at naruto he just learned wind, sagemode and after that it was all fighting for him so he didn't get any time to improve on his tech or to learn new tech. so i won't be so frustrated about it.:D:D:D
    Yea man but i meant like they all have such wide uses of so many tech's you can give naru more then what he has and still leave room to improve on it you can have for example a water element and start it out like the rasengan you start with a super soaker and go to a tidal wave of doom haha but it'll add more spice to a fight you can still have all things from the past but you can vairate and give him a little more spice :D
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    Well Naruto has frog katas...still not much variety though lol I just noticed something...when Naruto was fighting Pain why didn't he make more clones to collect Sage chakra BUT only one would collect it at a time and when one of this is reverse summoned another one could start gathering sage chakra...anyways I hope he still has at least one technique we haven't seen
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    We all know Naruto has a lot to learn, and still has to get a lot stronger...but he has plenty of moves at his disposal...kb, rassenga (all types), sage mode, the fox (under control up to 3 tails), and cant forget his sexy jutsu's...His sage mode was strong, kage level, but we havent seen him fight in sage+fox form...we know he has it, but havent seen what he can do...along with his sage+fox form, im sure he can go to different levels in that mode as well, maybe take in more natural energy as more tails come out...who knows how strong he can get if thats the case.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBen View Post
    Ok maybe i am thinking of the wrong jutsu you guys are saying but what i was refering to was when he was fighting itachi in the beging he was sitting by a tree and said i will have to use that j-man held his hand up to the sun and the flashback of the end of naruto(1) was there and then when it came out kakashi said NOW naruto and then u hear OODAAMA rasengan ... to my knowledege there is no forbiden jutsu that j man gave ... unless you are talking about the frog key but then again ... i am not sure so please specify what it is we are disscussing what i gathered the forbidden jutsu at the very start of shippuden was oodamaa rasengan... sas was stoped by oro from using kirin.
    I know the knife fights are gay bro i'm stateing that he could do alot more and yes how you use it shows growth as well but the point i was making is that we are 464 chapters into it and he KNOWS who his father is yet he dosen't ask anyone about it it's like meh who cares and he just goes on... could you imgine the flying thunder god with his clones ! man hahaha madara would get f'd all i ment was that in a naruoverse of infinate possibiltys to only limit yourself is foolish he has sage mode now he can use his S-rank rasenshariken and make awesome rasengan's so now he has to go out and learn more that's all i am saying cause as it stands right now sas would mess naruto up just because of his lack of jutsu he cannot use FRS cause sas is fire and it'll just backfire and blow him up and he has no sign yet of a second element even tho sasuke is balling with both a fire and lightning s-rank finisher.. i'm saying he needs a wider variety of jutsu i gave those as examples. but go back 3 years ago he didn't have wind wind was new to shippuden right he only had 2 jutsu threwout the whole 220 episodes haha Thank God for the fox or naruto would have been pwnd
    in closeing my arguement is that naruto is underdevepoled and it is so boring watching the same thing over and over
    just compare sas or Shika fights (exciting cause you never know whats going down)
    Naruto i garentee you he will use his shawdowclones as a distraction then try and rasengan there face off when in a pinch he busts out the fox so....

    Sorry again for the long posts but there are lots of thing's i'd like to know cause i am just getting lost
    The stuff in red is me quoting myself from about a month ago so yeah i agree with u Ben

    As an uzumaki naruto fan i personaly want a time skip. the fact that naruto is kishi's baby i wud think he wud feel the same as i do not wanting the series to end with naruto still being an imature idiot, so hopefuly there is a time skip in which the new naruto we see is well still humorous and does stupid things sometimes but is knowledgable about things and whats happening and insightful thats my hope or if not that much, i atleast want him to make him act alot less stupidly tho.Btw i luv seeing naruto be resourceful and using what he got to own ppl but its time his jutsu range got broadened, i luv the sage mode and all but that is jus sumtin that realy enhances his current abilities. He learned a jutsu from the secret scroll b4 he was a gennin and the s-rank and above rasengan and fuuton rasengan so how hard wud it be for him to learn jutsu jounin and lower shinobi can use, so its about time kakashi stocked him up with other jutsu right?


    Btw i dont think its a good idea to combine info from the manga and anime altho in some cases the anime is expounding on the manga not all info is delivered the same cuz in the manga there was no build up to oodama, naruto just used it but in the anime kishi kinda stressed on oodama so it kinda looked like oodama was the jutsu jiraya didnt want naruto to use but even if u think that, naruto wouldnt just use it, he would probly say somthing like "it seems 'that' is my only option" b4 using oodama if it was the jutsu he wasnt supposed to use but then again only kishi knows for sure.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    Naruto why not using that BIG toad Gamma.. i dont know like gaara and naruto fight that BIG BIG TOAD that the BEST!! :D
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    maybe naruto will learn how to control the nine-tails and then he will be much stronger than sasuke
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    About the discussion of which jutsu Jiraiya forbade to use by Naruto, I guess it will be some jutsu related to the fox. It has to relate with the frog summoned by Jiraiya before he fought with pain. About Odomo Rasengan, its a jutsu to make rasengan more powerful, i don't see any reason why Jiraiya would forbade Odomo Rasengan.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    i thought jiraya forbade naruto to use his new rasengan cuz it hurt his hands and he said that he shouldnt use that jutsu because he wont be able to control chakra. Or are u talking about something else?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by warriorex222 View Post
    i thought jiraya forbade naruto to use his new rasengan cuz it hurt his hands and he said that he shouldnt use that jutsu because he wont be able to control chakra. Or are u talking about something else?
    yeah you right and that forbiden technik is odama rasengan!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Konoha Rokudaime View Post
    About the discussion of which jutsu Jiraiya forbade to use by Naruto, I guess it will be some jutsu related to the fox. It has to relate with the frog summoned by Jiraiya before he fought with pain. About Odomo Rasengan, its a jutsu to make rasengan more powerful, i don't see any reason why Jiraiya would forbade Odomo Rasengan.
    If you play the NARUTO SHIPUUDEn ULTIMATE NINJA 4 or ACCEl is showing the 2 disappeard year in shipuuden. Y-man is training with naruto.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    Ok everyone seen the episode with sasuke fighting deidara. Did he see the chakra network in his vessels or was that just charka flow? It's the Art episode if you don't remember.

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Choujuu Giga View Post
    Discussion: I have to say that from the beginning Sasuke had something to counter the Raikage (Enton Kagu Tsuchi) whether it would have completely defended him (like Gaaras nearly impenetrable sand) or if his leg went through the spiked black flames who can say that he couldnt have used the later on more evolved Susanoo to then shield himself. Take a look below:

    First off so were all clear, Sasuke is not saying Amaterasu but rather Enton Kagu Tsuchi. Okay I did my homework and this was different from Itachis regular black flames. There isnt much info on this, although I looked this up individually and Ka: of course is fire, Gu: means tool/counter for armor (not exactly sure which it is) lastly Tsuchi: which of course means either earth or soil (Im going with earth). So, what I have established is that Sasuke has taken Amaterasu and further modified it (not sure if earth plays a roll mixed in with Amaterasu). Itachi passing down Amaterasu and Susanoo or Sasuke gaining the two techs can still be debated but in my opinion it does seem to point to Sasuke attaining the techs himself since they both have gone through different forms of evolution. To add even more to my theory Sasukes Susanoo still havent brought out the two legendary weapons even through further developing his Susanoo.

    (* There was a lot of stuff here so I skipped it *)

    Predictions: I really am not sure now to even make a guess everything is so mixed together and turned inside out; I think it could go any way due to Kishis unpredictable twists.
    I know people have been going about this for a long time now that sasuke will finally bring out the sword and the shield.
    I disagree.
    Why? Cuz, when sasuke and itachi were fighting and Orochimaru came out, he immediately recognized the sword that he had been searching for(as pointed out by zetsu). Zetsu also recognized the mirror as well.
    I think that the sword and the mirror are unique items that Itachi had searched for and found. They are something completely unrelated with susano'o itself.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by User Name View Post
    Sorry to quote such a long post

    I don't see how Sasuke's Mangekyo is a "double mangekyo" everyones MS looks different remember?

    anyways it's just speculation for now but I see what you mean he got 1 MS from Itachi and he could've also gotten his own Kakashi got his a long time after all his loved ones died maybe it doesn't just awaken the moment it happens and you have to train for it knowing what you're doing(or you just accidently do it which is unlikely)

    EDIT: also we don't know how strong Itachi's Susano'o was without the sword and shield for all we know Sasuke's could be a weaker version not having armore or weapons(it's just the body)
    Actually what I assume he is saying ( and I dont agree) is that there are two hexagrams in Sasuke's MS cuz he said " if you look here u can see two sharingans in one eye....one big and one small..."
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by MUSid View Post
    Actually what I assume he is saying ( and I dont agree) is that there are two hexagrams in Sasuke's MS cuz he said " if you look here u can see two sharingans in one eye....one big and one small..."
    I know he said that but I think he meant that was just more proof? He had other reasons to believe so anyways Sasuke could have 2 Mangekyou's for all we know his own and Itachi's but when Sasugay said "only those with the Double Mangekyo" he meant using both eyes instead of one
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    Hey, Ive been reading these posts for a while but I don't really talk because someone always shuts me down. Anyway I was wondering one night about the "gift" Itachi gave Naruto. Now I know there is plenty of speculation on this "gift" but maybe it was that sword and mirror. I know he used it after giving it to Naruto but they are spiritual items which means that they are not in possession of anyone. In my mind I think its possible they are something like a summon. Anyones thoughts on this??? Not sure if its been mentioned before, sorry if it has.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    slopez21 i like that it could happen because itachis gift will kick in when naruto has to kill sasuke to save everyone. like itachi said. that would also explain the title with naruto and sasuke back to back with swords. I always thought it could be to stop sasuke from putting naruto in a genjitsu but you can defend against a genjitsu with chakra which naruto has plent of.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    no one still answered about sasuke having itachis eye while he amaterasu'd tobi while itachis real eyes are in the bottle
    chapter397 pages2-3
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Roxane View Post
    The manga I view online is so slow to see pictures!
    did u read it at onemanga.com if not go read it there
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by culinaryg View Post
    no one still answered about sasuke having itachis eye while he amaterasu'd tobi while itachis real eyes are in the bottle
    chapter397 pages2-3
    he used itachi's techneque before he had his own mangekyo
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 464 Discussion / 465 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by squiremarcus View Post
    he used itachi's techneque before he had his own mangekyo

    if he couldve used itachis ms y does he need his eyes or still goin blind

    2nd- how can he have itachis eye while itachis eye was clearly in a bottle/jar
     
         

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