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    Re: how many akatsuki would it take to take down EDO MADARA

    Quote Originally Posted by Beetle View Post
    Obito might be able to solo.
    Obito by himself wouldn't be able to beat Madara's strongest susanoo but if Obito had his Jinchuriki paths with him and made them transform into their bijuu modes he may have a chance at winning.

    I still would bet on Madara beating Obito with his Jinchuriki paths as Madara has infinite chakra so he could outlast Obito. It depends on if his strongest susanoo can tank a bijuu bomb.

    We don't know how strong Madara's strongest susanoo is so we can't be sure how many akatsuki members it would take to beat him.
     
         
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    Re: how many akatsuki would it take to take down EDO MADARA

    nagato and itachi are enough
     
         

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    Re: how many akatsuki would it take to take down EDO MADARA

    If your referring to Edo Madara then I believe they would need a 6 man team to even consider matching him. But let's put this into perspective first, Itachi/Kisame were not willing to against Jiraiya because they knew the best they could do is a draw with them two dying, Nagato only managed to defeat Jiraiya because he didn't discover his secrets to his Pain bodies sooner. Nagato acknowledged this after his fight with J-man.

    I think we need to consider how would Jiraiya fair against Madara, this might put everything in perspective but he alone would not be enough.

    So you'd need some members with moves that have large scale damage, to counter some of Madara's abilities. So I am going with a 6 man team and here is my list:

    Obito
    Nagato
    Kisame
    Itachi or Sasuke
    Oro
    Konan or Kabuto (can I include Kabuto? lol)

    Still think Madara in his edo state would take this group very far and would probably end up with at least half the members dead, if not more, with the others left worn out before eventually sealing him. Anyone else for support like Deidara would be good though.
     
         

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    Re: how many akatsuki would it take to take down EDO MADARA

    Excluding Obito because he might win on his own, I say Kisame, Nagato, and Itachi could win
     
         

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    Re: how many akatsuki would it take to take down EDO MADARA

    Quote Originally Posted by Ventalus View Post
    So we can actually say that Obito > Rikudou Sennin? Because does not Madara have same abilities as Rikudou Sennin now has? Perhaps not.
    Because what could otherwise Rikudou Sennin hit him with mhm...
    *mindfuc* lol

    Perhaps sealing jutsus still works on Obito.

    Obito is no where near Rikudos power level same goes for Uchiha Madara.


    We havent seen Rikudos Powers so we cant draw the conclusion about hes powers being the same as Madaras.


    But it has been hinted , that he had the best Yin Yan manipulation ever = Creation of all Things.

    Able to divide Juubis near infinite power into 9 parts and breath life into these 9 parts is a paradoxal and ihuman event in Naruto History.

    Also supporting on Nagatos claims.

    Chibaku Tensei created by Nagato was able to make a stone structure to hold off 6 tails Naruto but Failed at Narutos 8th Tail Transformation.

    But Nagato Hinted , that he was capable of creating another Chibaku Tensei able to Hold off Narutos 8 Tails Transformation.


    So Rikudos Power was able to create the moon by Lifting The Oceans floors and Mountains to form the Moon and not only that but to send the Moon off to space into a safe orbit so it wont fall back to Earth.

    We are talking about something so powerfull that cant even be measured with Nagatos feats.

    And all of this was done when Rikudo Sennin was over hes 60's and well over hes Prime 30-35.

    Also it was done after Juubi was extracted from Rikudos Body so Rikudos lifespan was reduced to few days if not few hours.

    The Reason why Rikudo Sennin defeated Juubi was because he was stronger than Juubi itself and was able to out perform its ablities or counter the abilities.


    Im not saying that Rikudo defeated the Juubi without receiving a scratch.

    But Rikudo indeed defeated the Juubi to a point when Juubis stamina was exchausted and it could not fight back anymore and thus Rikudo had the chance to seal it.


    So we cant draw these conclusions until we have seen Obito or Madara perform : COAT or Chibaku Tensei in order to create a second Moon.

    But it's Possible , that Madara will use a lesser version of COAT to perform Infinite Tsukiyomi.

    Or some other version of this Yin Yan release jutsu.


    Also it has not been hinted if Rikudo was able to perform Mokuton.

    But if you take into account COAT then Rikudo could create forests with this technique.

    Or Create humans.

    Birds.

    Insects.

    And even bacteria with this technique.

    Since all life organisms support chakra therefore can be built using COAT jutsu.

    Also with COAT it could be possible to make perfect clones of a person.

    And even Revive people from the dead.

    It holds no limits.

    Give enough chakra to the technique and could destroy the whole Universe.

    Or when applied Via genjutsu could be used for Infinite Tsukiyomi.




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    Itachi and Obito are the best opponents to Counter Madaras techniques.


    But we cant draw any conclusions on it.


    Madara could have a Counter for Kamui.


    Madara could have a Counter for Totsuga Sword.

    Wont surprise me if Madara was the Former master for the Sword but was lost during the fight with Hashirama if So then How Hashirama countered the sword.


    I think , that the sword is unable to seal Mokuton Abilites therefore Mokuton clones or even people who have Hashiramas power.

    Reason why I believe this is because.


    The Totsuga sword was created by TYS of the Rikudo Sennin.

    It is a Spiritual Weapon and its Physical form is unknown if it even had any.

    TYS could have been Original Mokuton user.

    Having hes fathers knowledge about Yin and Yan releases he could have easily crafted such a weapon if not a number of them.

    Also with the sword came a seal a special one for that matter.

    That could seal away every oponent.

    TYS knowing this added a second seal for safe measure if the sword where to fall into the wrong hands and be a danger to himself.

    He added a seal to prevent mokuton users being sealed in that sword.

    Thus Mokuton users where immune to its effects so some people from TYS lineage where safe and could oppose TES lineage if they where ever to came into possesion of this sword.




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    We cant be sure if Kamuis dimension traps people into the dimension forever or if there is a time limit for someone to be in there.


    After some time a door could open and a person could leave the dimension.

    Maybe the dimension does not support life forms for a long periods of time since they disturb its dimensional space and make it become unstable thus opening doors to leave this dimension.


    The dimension looks abstract and surreal for that matter.

    It could have infinite dimensions.

    But maybe a Rinnegan user can leave this Dimension using Chibaku tensei to alter its gravitational field and ripping the space thus making a door to leave the dimension.



    Also Nagato could be an oponent for Madara.


    But not as Solo but with 6 paths of pain.


    6 paths of pain is OP combination and is strongly underrated.

    The only reason why Naruto defeated these guys was thanks to plot.

    If the manga had a different course of developement and 6 paths of pain where to fight Epic figures like Orochimaru or Hiruzen Sarutobi then we could have seen their power on a larger scale.

    Also to mention Nagato in Yahikos body was able to Destroy the whole Konoha in few seconds...

    Nagato could actually have a chance of beating Madara.

    But Madara will most likely win the fight with a trick from hes sleeve.
     
         

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    Re: how many akatsuki would it take to take down EDO MADARA

    A: Pain Kakuzu Itachi Deidara

    This way Madara faces multiple enemies. Kakuzu can split his hears, Sasori with many puppets, Pain with all paths, Deidara in the air to bomb him.

    Basically edo Madara must watch every side of him. Meteor wont kill any of these. All has defenses to guard against.

    Offensive, Kakuzu can match Madaras fire jutsu, when he combines wind+fire element.

    Itachi needs just one hit with totsuka, and he is an uchiha, so he may be able to see through many attacks. Thus he will be the strategist as well.

    Pain can seal as well. Has hi use of gravity to be a huge advantage. It's not a jutsu Madara can absorb, and frankly I don't see him resist the pull, unless he uses PS.

    Deidara has nanobombs. If Madara isn't lightning affinity, he has no way to guard against it. The bombs are nanoscale, thus they aren't visible till they are in a fluid (i.e. his blood). This will destroy him, and leave him seal able for Itachi or Pain.
     
         

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    Re: how many akatsuki would it take to take down EDO MADARA

    madara is suposed to be able to take them all on and give them their own arses as a decorative item. thats the point of him, a truely unstoppable monster.

    Itachi and Orochimaru are the key if they are to win. Itachi and his knowlage of the sharingan with Izanami along with Orochimaru's poison to neutralise the hashirama cells.
     
         

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    Re: how many akatsuki would it take to take down EDO MADARA

    To be fair, no one can kill someone immortal but Obito can still teleport him away I think. There are ways to immobilize him but probably no ways killing him in a normal fighting way. We've seen it and the five kage combined could take on every normal ninja including the akatsuki members.
     
         

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    Re: how many akatsuki would it take to take down EDO MADARA

    Considering madaras power and excellence of skill I would say all......hidan is fairly stupid in battles..I considered him skilled cuz he is my favorite character..anyways yes I am including hidan even though some may disagree.....
     
         

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    Re: how many akatsuki would it take to take down EDO MADARA

    blade of totsuka that ho

    the end
     
         

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    Re: how many akatsuki would it take to take down EDO MADARA

    One .. Obito
     
         

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    Re: how many akatsuki would it take to take down EDO MADARA

    Quote Originally Posted by Z3R01 View Post
    I think that itachi might do it solo lmao
    MAN!!!! plz remove that sig !!! i cant stop laughing !!!! Buhahahhahahaha :sy:
     
         

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    Re: how many akatsuki would it take to take down EDO MADARA

    I think 4, maybe five:
    Itachi
    Nagato
    Hidan
    Diedara
    if needed obito
     
         

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