Orochimaru is overrated and fails at everything

[~Sovereign~]

First of all, Minato is Jiraiya's student, not Orochimaru's. Second, are we really going by Anko's opinion here?

i said anko is oro's student

hiruzen did agree with anko

hiruzen is oro's teacher

minato>oro

stay on topic

[נıм]

smh

did i say minato can beat them????? althrough you cant explain how hiruzen beats minato

i said minato>oro, you mad?

now stay on topic

I can say how he can beat Minato


Here is my explanation:

Manga states

[Yusuke Urameshi]

its obvious

Naruto > Minato
Madara > Minato
Obito > Minato
Hiruzen > Minato
Hashirama > Minato



Should I continue?

Naruto? I can see that.
Madara? Debatable.
Obito? Minato smacked him once already. He'd just do it again.
Hiruzen? He's all hype.
Hashirama? Understandable, but still debatable.

OT: Oro's not overrated, and if he is, he deserves it.

[Ace of the fire fist]

its obvious

Naruto > Minato
Madara > Minato
Obito > Minato
Hiruzen > Minato
Hashirama > Minato



Should I continue?

Minato > Hiruzen

Haters gonna hate + you're a *****. Ha! He's just hype and the names you put forth are the names of one of the strongest characters in the manga. All making top ten. It's a shame Minato would merk most people in the manga.

How can you prove Hiruzen > Minato? Hype is all you can bring to the table. Continue hating.

[dmasta]

orochimaru testing itatchi lol he was trapped in a gen jutsu and coulent get out he tried then after he left the akatsuki becuase he was humiliated that he lost

[DeadManWonderLand]

[quote=sakuxnaru;9854595]orochimaru is a failure and overrated. I have him in top 20 strongest but i've seen people put him in top 10 or 15

if i remember correctly he lost just about every fight he ever been in (he probably won 1 that im forgetting) and fails at everything he does

he loss to uchiha itachi -that is it and he only loss because he cannot use his senjustu powers in sage mode due to his current body


-he actually lost to hiruzen who was 60+ years old because he lost his arms and failed to destroy konoha

if he loss to hiruzen why is he still around ?

-he lost to 4 tailed cloak naruto

frist off a good portion of his chakra was sealed away in that fight you somehow mangaged to convince yourself he loss to before this battle and he laughed the entire time he battled naruto
and once again his current body does not allow him to use all his power

-he lost to sasuke

everyone and there grandmoms know what happened

-he got one shotted by itachi twice

already cited why this was now your just repeating yourself

-he was stuck inside his own curse seal until helped him get out of it

stuck inside his own curse seal ? That is how he organized it so he can return if someone was to do so
he wasnt "stuck"

-he didnt get to be 4th hokage

because he was evill if not hiruzen would of gave the tittle to him before he gave it to minato

-he lost to tsunade
toad -snake-slug all of them are capable of taking each other on its called symbolism/contrasting abilities

-he failed to take over sasukes body

ugh im tired of typing


-he didnt master edo tensai

yes he did he even made a seal that makes the edo stay in his control there is a difference between mastering something and adding to something which is what kabuto did which let him to perfect it


-anko said minato can beat oro, oro's own student is against him

she said i wish minato was here he would know what to do it means at that time he was the only one who could take him on she never claimed he would win outright against oro though if push came to shove minato>oro

-he didnt have a strong enough body to get dragon sage mode (if i remember correctly)

he does not have all his chakra for the millionth time






i have nothing against people that like oro but people think he is successful and he really isnt

i have nothing against you and my caps is not to instill hostility but to make sure everyone can see all my individual responses also you have very little info on oro

he's back in the manga now maybe he can do some successful in the future

as of right now he is a key component to finding out "everything"

[~Sovereign~]

I can say how he can beat Minato


Here is my explanation:

Manga states

minato>hiruzen
minato>oro

you cant explain

[shri3kbat]

His goal was to perfect the immortality jutsu and I'd say the jutsu is doing pretty good

[נıм]

Naruto? I can see that.
Madara? Debatable.
Obito? Minato smacked him once already. He'd just do it again.
Hiruzen? He's all hype.
Hashirama? Understandable, but still debatable.

OT: Oro's not overrated, and if he is, he deserves it.

Naruto, yes
Madara, Rinnegan, EMS, Mokuton nuff said
Obito, he killed a 14 year old kid, wow he is now 33 or smth. + Rinnegan, u mad bro
Hashirama, wood + spores, nuff said

Minato > Hiruzen

Haters gonna hate + you're a *****. Ha! He's just hype and the names you put forth are the names of one of the strongest characters in the manga. All making top ten. It's a shame Minato would merk most people in the manga.

How can you prove Hiruzen > Minato? Hype is all you can bring to the table. Continue hating.

1. Report for kidlike Insult.. oh wait.. u are a kid
2. Manga states, Kishi > You

[Yusuke Urameshi]

First of all, Minato is Jiraiya's student, not Orochimaru's. Second, are we really going by Anko's opinion here?

His antecedent was vague, but you can understand he meant it as Anko, who is Oro's student, said Minato > Oro. Also, if we disregard Anko's statement about Minato, we should also disregard Iruka's statement about Hiruzen. You mad Hiruzen fanboys?

[BlackDude]

When compared to Sasuke yeah but in general Orochimaru is one of the legendary sannin. He went toe to toe with Jiraya n Tsunade :sy: this thread fails

[~Sovereign~]

[QUOTEeadManWonderLand;9854835]

orochimaru is a failure and overrated. I have him in top 20 strongest but i've seen people put him in top 10 or 15

if i remember correctly he lost just about every fight he ever been in (he probably won 1 that im forgetting) and fails at everything he does

he loss to uchiha itachi -that is it and he only loss because he cannot use his senjustu powers in sage mode due to his current body


-he actually lost to hiruzen who was 60+ years old because he lost his arms and failed to destroy konoha

if he loss to hiruzen why is he still around ?

-he lost to 4 tailed cloak naruto

frist off a good portion of his chakra was sealed away in that fight you somehow mangaged to convince yourself he loss to before this battle and he laughed the entire time he battled naruto
and once again his current body does not allow him to use all his power

-he lost to sasuke

everyone and there grandmoms know what happened

-he got one shotted by itachi twice

already cited why this was now your just repeating yourself

-he was stuck inside his own curse seal until helped him get out of it

stuck inside his own curse seal ? That is how he organized it so he can return if someone was to do so
he wasnt "stuck"

-he didnt get to be 4th hokage

because he was evill if not hiruzen would of gave the tittle to him before he gave it to minato

-he lost to tsunade
toad -snake-slug all of them are capable of taking each other on its called symbolism/contrasting abilities

-he failed to take over sasukes body

ugh im tired of typing


-he didnt master edo tensai

yes he did he even made a seal that makes the edo stay in his control there is a difference between mastering something and adding to something which is what kabuto did which let him to perfect it


-anko said minato can beat oro, oro's own student is against him

she said i wish minato was here he would know what to do it means at that time he was the only one who could take him on she never claimed he would win outright against oro though if push came to shove minato>oro

-he didnt have a strong enough body to get dragon sage mode (if i remember correctly)

he does not have all his chakra for the millionth time






i have nothing against people that like oro but people think he is successful and he really isnt

i have nothing against you and my caps is not to instill hostility but to make sure everyone can see all my individual responses also you have very little info on oro

he's back in the manga now maybe he can do some successful in the future

as of right now he is a key component to finding out "everything"

smh you have an excuse for everything

i guess you can continue to argue with the manga then

[★HiddenSound]

Are you going to start giving facts or just keep telling your opinion?

[Resurrected Orochimaru]

His antecedent was vague, but you can understand he meant it as Anko, who is Oro's student, said Minato > Oro. Also, if we disregard Anko's statement about Minato, we should also disregard Iruka's statement about Hiruzen. You mad Hiruzen fanboys?

Now there I'll agree with you, Hiruzen is overrated too. And seriously, we're going to listen to Iruka of all people?

[repulse]

orochimaru is a failure and overrated. i have him in top 20 strongest but i've seen people put him in top 10 or 15

if i remember correctly he lost just about every fight he ever been in (he probably won 1 that im forgetting) and fails at everything he does

-he actually lost to hiruzen who was 60+ years old because he lost his arms and failed to destroy konoha
-he lost to 4 tailed cloak naruto
-he lost to sasuke
-he got one shotted by itachi TWICE
-he was stuck inside his own curse seal until helped him get out of it
-he didnt get to be 4th hokage
-he lost to tsunade
-he failed to take over sasukes body
-he didnt master edo tensai
-anko said minato can beat oro, oro's own student is against him
-he didnt have a strong enough body to get dragon sage mode (if i remember correctly)


he is just a guy that does millions of experiments and doesnt stay dead and thinks everything is funny

i have nothing against people that like oro but people think he is successful and he really isnt

he's back in the manga now maybe he can do some successful in the future

Lost to Naruto and Sasuke because of Oro's inability to perform seals and his sickness.

Wasn't necessarily stuck, and I don't recall him asking to be set free from it.

Didn't get to be 4th Hokage because of his illegal experiments.

Well...technically he didn't lose. Jiraiya was present as well. And he couldn't perform seals either.

...I believe it has been proven by others that Oro did in fact perfect Edo Tensei.

Anko never said that. You are misinterpreting what she said. She said she wished the 4th was present because he was the only shinobi she could think of that could nullify him. Stop him, not defeat him.

That has never been mentioned....from what I know.

[jamiehavoc19]

Dude it goes down like this. Full powered oro=cant be stopped.simple as that. He knows almost all jutsus. Hes mastered all elements and he has sealing techniques. He stood against jiraya and tsuande with no fruckin arms and still made a laughing stock out of the.. u need to reread or somethin bro. For reals.

[Yusuke Urameshi]

Naruto, yes
Madara, Rinnegan, EMS, Mokuton nuff said
Obito, he killed a 14 year old kid, wow he is now 33 or smth. + Rinnegan, u mad bro
Hashirama, wood + spores, nuff said.

Madara didn't have Rinnegan or Mokuton. Edo Madara does, though. Even then, there's a good chance Minato could take on Edo Madara.

Obito hasn't used any Rinnegan techs. except 6PoP. That makes his Rinnegan pretty much irrelevant. Of course it'd be tougher for Minato, but the result would most likely be the same as the last time they fought.

Minato more than likely knows of Hashi's techs., while Hashi doesn't know of Minato's. Like I said, it's understandable if Hashi won.

[~Sovereign~]

When compared to Sasuke yeah but in general Orochimaru is one of the legendary sannin. He went toe to toe with Jiraya n Tsunade :sy: this thread fails

tsunade was scared of blood and kabuto was helping oro

His goal was to perfect the immortality jutsu and I'd say the jutsu is doing pretty good

his goal is to have an uchiha body but he fails at getting it

[Ace of the fire fist]

Naruto, yes
Madara, Rinnegan, EMS, Mokuton nuff said
Obito, he killed a 14 year old kid, wow he is now 33 or smth. + Rinnegan, u mad bro
Hashirama, wood + spores, nuff said



1. Report for kidlike Insult.. oh wait.. u are a kid
2. Manga states, Kishi > You

, resorting to reports because you can't handle the heat. Snake.

You can say Kishi > me all you like but you have no proof :rofl: Just empty words...

[Yusuke Urameshi]

Dude it goes down like this. Full powered oro=cant be stopped.simple as that. He knows almost all jutsus. Hes mastered all elements and he has sealing techniques. He stood against jiraya and tsuande with no fruckin arms and still made a laughing stock out of the.. u need to reread or somethin bro. For reals.

While I agree, that's a bad reason as to why Oro is strong. Tsunade was hungover and Jiraiya was poisoned by Tsunade, not being able to really fight. So...yeah.

[Yusuke Urameshi]

his goal is to have an uchiha body but he fails at getting it

True, but he wanted an Uchiha body so he could use the Sharingan to help himself with the learning of all the jutsu in the NarutoVerse.

Edit: Sorry for the double post.

[Fluffyman]

Jiraya - dead.
Tsunade - most likely dead or atleast crippled.
Orochimaru - still walking around like a baws.


@Hiruzen fight: Hiruzen killed himself to seal Orochimaru with the Death Reaper Seal and failed. Orochimaru probably is the only one who ever managed to (literally) escape the Death God. The loss of his arms were the reason for most of his failures afterwards but hes still around and probably already has a plan to get his arms back from the Death God.

His body isnt too weak, his power is just too great.

[Zlad]

orochimaru is a failure and overrated. i have him in top 20 strongest but i've seen people put him in top 10 or 15

if i remember correctly he lost just about every fight he ever been in (he probably won 1 that im forgetting) and fails at everything he does

-he actually lost to hiruzen who was 60+ years old because he lost his arms and failed to destroy konoha
-he lost to 4 tailed cloak naruto
-he lost to sasuke
-he got one shotted by itachi TWICE
-he was stuck inside his own curse seal until helped him get out of it
-he didnt get to be 4th hokage
-he lost to tsunade
-he failed to take over sasukes body
-he didnt master edo tensai
-anko said minato can beat oro, oro's own student is against him
-he didnt have a strong enough body to get dragon sage mode (if i remember correctly)


he is just a guy that does millions of experiments and doesnt stay dead and thinks everything is funny

i have nothing against people that like oro but people think he is successful and he really isnt

he's back in the manga now maybe he can do some successful in the future

He won the battle with Hiruzen, who died and who survived? It's that simple.

No, he toyed with the 4 tails like we humans toy with our dogs/cats.

Because he was at his weakest point, Sasuke knew this well.

How is that fail? That is just amazing because then you cannot die.

It's not over yet you know.

He was the one that made it perfect after Tobirama created it.

Disagree, with two Edo's he can easily beat Minato.

One correct, now does that make him weak? He was feared and known by many people. He is underrated and strong.

Orochimaru > Sasuke

So you are back... Please don't be stupid like you always were.

[jamiehavoc19]

Naruto and shizun fought kabuto after tsunade knockedhim. And yea ur right bout the poisikn and crap forgot. But still if his battle with hiruzen had endeddifferently this magna would alrdy be over. Oro would have personally pickedsasuke up and had his body there and itd be done. Oros strongerthen madara. Hell oro was playing dr with madaras dna.and senjus. He cld make the damn rinnegan if he hasnt alrdy. And as for edo madara. Oro perfected it! U think he wont know how to stop madara?

[~Sovereign~]

Are you going to start giving facts or just keep telling your opinion?

everything i said is a fact

what manga are you reading

which one of my facts are opinions??

oro lost a fight, how is that my opinion??? smh

Lost to Naruto and Sasuke because of Oro's inability to perform seals and his sickness.

Wasn't necessarily stuck, and I don't recall him asking to be set free from it.

Didn't get to be 4th Hokage because of his illegal experiments.

Well...technically he didn't lose. Jiraiya was present as well. And he couldn't perform seals either.

...I believe it has been proven by others that Oro did in fact perfect Edo Tensei.

Anko never said that. You are misinterpreting what she said. She said she wished the 4th was present because he was the only shinobi she could think of that could nullify him. Stop him, not defeat him.

That has never been mentioned....from what I know.

if oro had his arm, what is he gonna do????????

oro had his arm when he fought naruto, hiruzen, itachi and sasuke

Dude it goes down like this. Full powered oro=cant be stopped.simple as that. He knows almost all jutsus. Hes mastered all elements and he has sealing techniques. He stood against jiraya and tsuande with no fruckin arms and still made a laughing stock out of the.. u need to reread or somethin bro. For reals.

OOOOH you mean the fight when jiriaya was weaken from tsunade putting the stuff in his drink and tsunade was scared of blood???

the fight when kabuto did the dirty work

the fight when naruto and shizune had to do most of the fight until tsunade got over the blood

you need to read not me