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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    Yes, but people who commit suicide ( not talking about the ones who suffer from a serious mental illness ) are usually selfish, egoistical and self absorbed.
     
         

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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    guys watch 7 pounds ,then come back n answer this question
     
         

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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    Wow, alot of condescending folks here. Depression is a mental sickness in itself. Genetics play a big part in that whole picture as well. You don't just commit suicide out of thin air. Suicide is the dead end, last resort escape. Nobody goes like, "ok on this date, I will commence the ritual of killing myself"... Pain, sadness.. a tough, violent past... People develop depression over time. Depression is curable, but for some it's not. It's complex, to say the least. Human Psychology is so epicly, immense. You can't even begin to fathom how intricate the Human brain/mind is. Why can't some of you be just a little sympathetic for these people? We should learn from these people's lives and appreciate the precious things in life. Don't spread harsh, unnecessary negativity; Spread love and positivity. Seriously! One love!!
     
         
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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    To commit suicide or not to commit suicide, both courses require courage during the darkest hour.

    I once myself walked that very thin line, it was a really good thing that I found someone to cherish life with.
     
         

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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    Depends on the situation said person is in. Some people dont just feel like a burden but really are a burden to others. At the end of the day it is their life and if they want to stop living because they are not enjoying life at all and are dealing with too many issues for them to take, then let them. I dont really promote it but you cant stop people from doing the things they want to do
     
         

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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson Trickster View Post
    Way to miss the point.
    I didn't miss the point, I disagreed with it. Suicide can sometimes be selfish, but I see nothing wrong with it. If someone wants to die, they don't need your acceptance.
     
         

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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    Those who do the deed leAve their family's to pick up the broken pieces there is no real need to commit suicide unless ur doing it for the right reasons like if you have an un cure able illness and have had enough but doing it is wrong in my mind to many people that I know have done this !! As stated above
     
         

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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    Suicide is for pussies.
     
         

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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    It is not selfish, at all.

    Saying it is selfish, solely basing on what the aftermath will be, is absurd, for the person is completely an individual from its moment of birth. What ties us to others are only two things: our physical condition, for we are bound to this world as fleshly beings, organic creations which have to reproduce and perish sooner or later; and, deriving from the previous reason, whatever symbolisations we may acquire through language, due to language being the platform on which humans build relationships, ergo, society. Therefore, considering suicide as a selfish act contemplates a sort of treason towards the fellow humans, the closest ones, only because of there being an abstract bond between them and the suiciding individual. Even if this fundament, the bond, is certainly valid for us language-defined existences, it is rendered meaningless once one encounters oneself as a completely independent, conscious being, that will only fade if his predisposed needs are not satisfied.

    We are dependant only as much as we are organic and social, yet we, as individuals, are completely free once language loses its meaning and flesh passes away.

    On a more culturally apprehensible note, suicide is in no manner a coward's way out. You need as many balls to commit suicide as you need to live in this universe, given that there is no such thing as Rinnne-Tensei or some unholy Reanimation Jutsu.
     
         
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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trollasaur View Post
    Suicide is for pussies.
    and there you have it. Suicide doesn't require courage, it requires no backbone. Staying here and dealing with your problems, now that takes courage
     
         

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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ventalus View Post
    You can never truly understand the person until you know same pain as him/her.
    Well said.
     
         

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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    ]As someone who has lived a life full of pain, loss, and disappointment I have to disagree. I'm still here, even though I entertained thoughts like that before. There's no courage involved when taking ones life. Only more pain. The true test is how many times you get back up after being knocked down by life. I have a little girl who wouldn't be here had I made a selfish quick-fix decision like that. And to make matters worse, she is autistic so I will probably be caring for her for her entire life, or at least however long I'm alive. Yet I keep trucking because I have people who depend on me to be strong. I cannot accept anyone who thinks suicide is a OK fix to their problems.
     
         

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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    Well I've seen a lot in my years. And I have been dragged through epic depressions. But suicide has never really jumped into my head. Sometimes I wished I never existed so I could be gone and loved ones wouldn't feel the pain. But I've even drove away those thoughts as I have matured. Frankly I can only see myself doing it if faced with an extreme situation. Like faceing a slow and painful death vs a quick one. For the most part, yes it is selfish. A lot of depression can be cured by the simple act of introspective thinking. Bulllying is never a reason. Past trauma can be overcome if you have a network of love and support. There are very few situations where suicide should be an option. At least in my humble opinion
     
         

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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    I thnk the movie "what dreams may come" explains this.
     
         

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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    Suicide suck don't do it simples all this you don't know somebody pain is pish !! Pardon the pun unless you go to digntas I'm sorry it's a selfish sick and immoral act you not only take you life when you do this act but when you do your family are left with pain and suffer as the consequence and feel like taking there own life as well that's what Prozac is for I'm sorry talk about what's bothering you instead of bottling it up then snapping and thinking suicide is the only path to choose !! It's you life you are here to live you only live 1ce ppl and don't think about slitting you wrists it just leaves nasty scars I should know (bullying) almost made me do something I would regret
     
         

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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    Quote Originally Posted by Saiya-Jin Prince View Post
    ]As someone who has lived a life full of pain, loss, and disappointment I have to disagree. I'm still here, even though I entertained thoughts like that before. There's no courage involved when taking ones life. Only more pain. The true test is how many times you get back up after being knocked down by life. I have a little girl who wouldn't be here had I made a selfish quick-fix decision like that. And to make matters worse, she is autistic so I will probably be caring for her for her entire life, or at least however long I'm alive. Yet I keep trucking because I have people who depend on me to be strong. I cannot accept anyone who thinks suicide is a OK fix to their problems.
    Please get off your high horse. Nobody needs your acceptance. Don't compare your life struggles with others.... You don't even know THEIR half of the story either. Don't be a critic. Like it or not, the decision to live or die is a choice EVERYONE has the freedom to make. Live and let live.
     
         

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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    We are not in the position to tell. None of us can rate someone else's pain and say 'this is how you have to handle it' so I would say no, it's not selfish. There are alot of situations where it can be understandable like a horrible painful desease, losing someone you loved etc. Again, who are we to rate someone else's pain? Same kind of discussion is abortion of children that came out of rape. Some people say 'hell no, every life is valuable' some say 'of course, understandable'. We cannot really tell. When we can handle things differently, doesn't mean everyone else can or has to.
     
         

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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trippy Sage of all Dank View Post
    Please get off your high horse. Nobody needs your acceptance. Don't compare your life struggles with others.... You don't even know THEIR half of the story either. Don't be a critic. Like it or not, the decision to live or die is a choice EVERYONE has the freedom to make. Live and let live.
    Spoken like a true coward who would probably take the easy way out. 14 yr old well off kids surfing from mommies computer shouldn't join in adult convo's Seriously, gtfoutta here. Showing up with your drug-themed name on a Naruto site, who the f are you anyways. Knock me off my horse then
     
         
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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    Quote Originally Posted by Saiya-Jin Prince View Post
    Spoken like a true coward who would probably take the easy way out. 14 yr old well off kids surfing from mommies computer shouldn't join in adult convo's Seriously, gtfoutta here. Showing up with your drug-themed name on a Naruto site, who the f are you anyways. Knock me off my horse then
    So you insult me, and make false assumptions about my life for simply disagreeing with you. Then you try to draw attention to my username which has nothing to do with this thread. Why do you bear such ill will? This is a perfect example of an egotistical and condescending person.

    ...would probably take the easy way out. 14 yr old well off kids surfing from mommies computer shouldn't join in adult convo's Seriously, gtfoutta here. Showing up with your drug-themed name on a Naruto site
    I've been here longer than you, bro.
    who the f are you anyways.
    I'm a Human being, just like you... You love to act like you know everything, dont you? I mean, are you an omniscient, all-knowing god or something? You don't know me, yet apparently I'm a 14 year old, well-off momma's boy..:sy: Everybody's got the right to an opinion... even your ignorant ass :mad:

    Basically your logic is: If they don't agree with me, they are a weak and cowardly 14 year old kid. Said 14 year old, should now leave this "adult convo". That's some very mature and "adult-like" thinking...

    I'm sorry you have your ups and downs in life, but that doesn't make you superior to anybody else. We're all Human Beings. We are similar but we are also different. There will always be people considered "weak" or "strong" whether they can help it or not...
    Right now, you are displaying a very sadistic mindset. You're acting superior to someone who you misjudged to be "weak". Go and re-read your own posts. They're absurdly ignorant and rude... Think about it. Your behavior is very very similar to the douchebags who insult people who are different.
    What if someone was talking down to your autistic daughter? It's not fair and it is certainly not nice.

    "Unnecessary negativity is unnecessary. Spread love and positivity"
     
         
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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    ^ suicide is for pussies.
     
         

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