Is suicide a selfish act?

[kmrasengan]

Considering the response, I don't understand why people make such a big fuss about:

i was about to post something about this girl, but i found innapropriate to say a joke about her, so i cancelled the post. but yeah i don't know why all the fuss about her.

[PhazoN]

Amanda something, right?

Why did she kill herself again, and why was it so important, again? I never got why she was so remarkable.



'Cept most people (yeah, speaking in generalities here, some cases are different) don't take their relatives' feelings into account and they make hasty decisions. They don't think about how their parents siblings and friends will suffer after they're gone. Committing suicide has pain that lasts for only a few seconds. Losing a loved one will leave a scar that lasts for life. Not taking such factors into consideration which will affect the people you love after you're gone is ultimately selfish.

She flashed her boobs at a stranger, was stalked for a very long time and was also bullied by people at school. She made a video on yt before commiting suicide, that's why she became 'famous'.

[Zero Kelvin]

She was a hero to all whores, never forget.
Only 90's kids will remember.

90's kids remember Harbo Hotel, not Amanda Todd. Pools, not bleach.

[ChocolateBear]

Selfish yes, but as for people thinking its easy way out nope you know how much balls it would take to end your own life?

[Ace of the fire fist]

Bullied at school? Move schools or piss on their food at lunchtime

Abused at home? Call the feds or put yourself up for foster care

Cyber bullied? Delete your ****ing account, whether it be Facebook or whatever. Cyber bullying is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. If you don't know what they're saying on the internet, it can't hurt you.

Family member died? There will always be other family and if there isn't, start a family of your own.

Raped? Put the prick behind bars, seek counceling and move the **** on.

[Zero Kelvin]

Bullied at school? Move schools or piss on their food at lunchtime

Abused at home? Call the feds or put yourself up for foster care

Cyber bullied? Delete your ****ing account, whether it be Facebook or whatever. Cyber bullying is the dumbest thing I've ever heard of. If you don't know what they're saying on the internet, it can't hurt you.

Family member died? There will always be other family and if there isn't, start a family of your own.

Raped? Put the prick behind bars, seek counceling and move the **** on.

It sure is basement-dweller up in this thread. Why don't you share some of your Alpha-male tragedy stories and flex your etherwebs-muscles some more?

[DeadManWonderLand]

Amanda something, right?

Why did she kill herself again, and why was it so important, again? I never got why she was so remarkable.



'Cept most people (yeah, speaking in generalities here, some cases are different) don't take their relatives' feelings into account and they make hasty decisions. They don't think about how their parents siblings and friends will suffer after they're gone. Committing suicide has pain that lasts for only a few seconds. Losing a loved one will leave a scar that lasts for life. Not taking such factors into consideration which will affect the people you love after you're gone is ultimately selfish.

I completely understand how others can be affected however,everyone has individual rights and that also means one has the right to live or to die.No one person is overall responsible for another's actions.Or better yet ones feelings does not subseed the rights of another human being.

[AlexUchina]

to me it is not selfish or anything. I think its a way to avoid though. Aviod the problems, situations and paths to take. I do want to know. Is there anyone out there when they know someone has done suicide, how come their first question to it all is not ,"Why?"

Thats my opnion

[wargear]

It's a complicated issue but yes for the most part it's a selfish act done while totally self absorbed with no thought or consideration for the pain and suffering those left to clean up afterwards experience. No matter how bad it seems waiting 24 hrs can show you it's not so bad after all... That said, I have been involved in two suicides of close friends where a severe stroke and the prospect of life in a nursing home in diapers made my friend find his own way to peace. The other after seeing his parents and sister suffer cruelly from cancer and die in horrific pain decided to cut to the chase and prevent his kids and friends from watching him suffer overdosed on Oxy... None of us liked it and it hurt terribly but we understood their decisions and prayed we never had to face such a decision in our life...

[Ace of the fire fist]

It sure is basement-dweller up in this thread. Why don't you share some of your Alpha-male tragedy stories and flex your etherwebs-muscles some more?

The thread asks a question. I'm answering it and showing there's a way to solve everything. Suicide is not necessary. I guess it depends on how strong the persons' will is

[★-Punk-]

To me its a cowardly act , just an easy way out when things go wrong .......a person has to fight against those thoughts & believe in themselves . suicide has a weakness & is the person itself ....... #Lord labian

[Two]

I completely understand how others can be affected however,everyone has individual rights and that also means one has the right to live or to die.No one person is overall responsible for another's actions.Or better yet ones feelings does not subseed the rights of another human being.

where not talking about who's decision it is it's about whether it's selfish or not which it can be at times and not at other times

[Ƒālconer]

speak of the devil

[Ace of the fire fist]

I disagree with the ones in bold, especially with the rape part. Rape can be incredibly difficult to prove sometimes, and seriously, it can and most likely will fuck a person up for life. There's this weird social stigma going on with rape, making it hard for people (especially men) that have been raped to come out and say it, as if it's a mark of shame. Of course it mostly depends on where you live, but still, you're oversimplifying it way too much. Same with being abused at home. Kids who are abused get so mentally fucked up that they'd be too scared to do anything about it. You can't brush it off as if it's a matter of calling up the police >_>

As for being bullied at school, most of the times kids that get bullied don't tell their parents/administrators, because they either won't care or because the kid thinks it will make it worse. I do think being bullied in school is nothing to commit suicide over, but it depends on how bad you're being bullied, I suppose.

Like I said, it's a matter of will. If you're not strong enough to do anything about it, then the person is going to be stuck in their situation for a very long time.

[Valen]

It's raining outside.. How fitting..

[Zero Kelvin]

Like I said, it's a matter of will. If you're not strong enough to do anything about it, then the person is going to be stuck in their situation for a very long time.

I'll get you hooked on Meth and you'll use your 'will' to break free of the addiction. Deal?
Roll a -425 d20 Will-save.

[Ace of the fire fist]

I'll get you hooked on Meth and you'll use your 'will' to break free of the addiction. Deal?
Roll a -425 d20 Will-save.

Deal. Oh wait, I know Meth will end of killing me so I won't take it...

@Crimson, you're right.

[★Sir Derp Obito]

Suicide is an honorable act like Sepukku in Japan, only the Judaic Christian religions frown on it and yet there is no direct reference in scripture that suicide is a sin, let me all direct you to this essay by Schopenhauer on suicide http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/s/scho.../chapter3.html

there is nothing in the world to which every mail has a more unassailable title than to his own life and person.

[YowYan]

Yes, it is. That's why I don't do it

[★Sir Derp Obito]

What's honor worth when you're dead?

And what is life worth without honor? The same way Kakashi's father took his own life. Read the essay first

[Two]

What's honor worth when you're dead?

well you don't honour yourself other people honour you so it's not for you..and that's what they were tuaght. that if they sinned or forbid the kings order they should give their lives recompense ..so that's what they saw as the honourable and only decent thing to do...bit stupid tho:/

[Zero Kelvin]

And what is life worth without honor?

I think you need to leave.

[PhazoN]

Suicide is an honorable act like Sepukku in Japan, only the Judaic Christian religions frown on it and yet there is no direct reference in scripture that suicide is a sin, let me all direct you to this essay by Schopenhauer on suicide http://ebooks.adelaide.edu.au/s/scho.../chapter3.html

there is nothing in the world to which every mail has a more unassailable title than to his own life and person.

Don't ruin this thread with religion...

[Mannequin]

Look at all these comments, People would bring in god religion and write all kind of stupid sht for rep, NOW THAT's SELFISH... Seriously i can't keep on reading these comments, Off i go...

Nice Hot thread -.-'

[Strata Spartan]

*shrugs* There are so many reasons as to why it isn't selfish.

- The person could of been mentally ill.

- The person could be in danger of exposing government secrets (Prisoner of War)

- The person could truly be suffering as far as life surroundings (Third World Countries)