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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    It's easy to say that suicide is an "easy way" out. But think. If the victims' lives were so "easy" why would they even be thinking about suicide in the first place. It's disgusting how the majority would rather judge and harshly criticize the act of the suicide itself, rather than empathize with the victim, their families, and their friends. (if they had any) It's like automatically relating the victim's life with your own, instantly drawing your comparisons between 'obstacles', 'hardships', and 'challenges'. Suicide victims don't have YOUR obstacles in their lives and you don't have THEIR obstacles! You don't even know what they have seen and lived through... Their positive and negative experiences...Their hopes and dreams...

    ALL life is precious. Suicide is a sad thing, yet it happens everyday. Nobody is exactly the same. We all have different levels of tolerance to things. Some can tolerate the cold better. Some can tolerate hot weather better. Some can tolerate ALOT of pain, and some have very little tolerance to pain. We all cope in different ways. Some people don't have any ways of coping with their pain. It's sad and depressing but we can't control the fate of our fellow Human beings. What we CAN control is our responses to the events in our lifetimes.

    WHY fuss over the argument of "Is suicide right, or wrong?!" It doesn't matter if it's wrong or right. It will still happen. The problem is that we live in an ignorant society that would rather dwell on trivial matters, rather than working to solve the problem at the root.

    For example: Picture, side by side, the lives of two young teenage guys. One is straight. One is gay. Which guy do you think will have an easier time being himself, fitting in, and progressing through life?

    Think about how much bullshit people get if they're not considered "normal" or "straight". You can't just compare the two guys' lives. Nobody can experience what you feel except for yourself. Now picture the lives of two teenage girls, side by side. One is straight, one is gay/lesbian/bisexual. Obviously in this society, girls who are lesbian or bisexual are more easily accepted in comparison to gay/bisexual men.
    When guys see 2 girls making out. POP! There's instantly a boner or two. But when 2 guys are making out... Different story. They're the ones who will get the bull shit. It's selfish, hypocrisy.

    Males who hate gay/bisexual men would most of the time be 100% be down for a 3 some with 2 bisexual/lesbian girls. In fact they'd probably seek that out if they actually knew/saw a couple lesbians/bi girls! BUT as soon as they see a gay/bisexual man/couple.. They start throwing out insults and all this bullshit. They be criticizing other non-aggressive, human beings for trying to live happy lives.<---- think about that.

    Another example: Imagine what YOUR life would be like if you were born Transgendered.

    Do you see the ignorance? And don't get me started on the religious extremists.....

    This poll shouldn't even exist in the first place. "...is it selfish"? Let me ask you. Do you live your life for yourself or for someone else? Are you seeking out YOUR dreams and YOUR happiness? Do you have YOUR goals etc.? Well! You MUST be selfish then, right? Wrong. That's the same kind of logic you're putting in this thread. Suicide isn't selfish. It's a sad, and desperate method of escaping one's pain and suffering. Rather than arguing over "is it wrong or right", we should be compassionate human beings that try to tolerate our differences and understand one another.

    A few thought provoking quotes

    "Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that."
    - Martin Luther King, Jr.

    "It ain't about black or white cuz we're Human, I hope we see the light before it's ruined."
    - Tupac Shakur

    "One thing I can say to that is that we are not disposable, we do not exist to be punch bags for the ignorance of fools nor do we choose to be trans-gender, we are just born that way and we struggle through our lives to be ourselves while being forced to be someone we are not.
    The many ignorant people in the world who hate on anyone who can't help how they were born are the aspect of humanity that will always hold back the chance of progress and acceptance of one another as a species."
    - Anonymous, Transgendered person

    HUMAN PSYCHOLOGY IS IMMENSELY COMPLEX. KEEP ANY OF YOUR HARSH CRITICISMS TO YOURSELF PLEASE!

    Unnecessary negativity is unnecessary. Spread love and positivity. ONE LOVE to my fellow Earthlings!!
     
         

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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    Quote Originally Posted by ~Theleader~ View Post
    They're obviously wrong, so why worry.
    Nope they are not wong. If there is no life after this life than killing should also be no problem.
     
         

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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    This is always a stupid question.

    Is it Selfish for someone to live only for the concern of someone else?

    Coward you say? Well please go ahead and try it because I assure the people who do kill themselves
    have Aloooooot more balls then those who chicken out or fail at it.

    It's a choice and that's it. people have the choice to live as they do to die.

    Most people who do commit suicide have higher morals and self dignity than others.
    They cared too much, They felt too much guilt or they were true to their feelings.

    Drug overdose due to stupidity does not count though.
     
         

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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    Quote Originally Posted by obito777 View Post
    It depends on how you look at it and the situation
    No i don't think so. Suicide is suicide your killing yourself and not thinking about how many people are going to be affected by it. You may not be having a great life at the moment but think there are some people out there that have it even worse. You are giving up your life but some lost theirs and might not have not even gotten a chance to live theirs like you have. You're lucky enjoy life while you can.
     
         

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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    First off who are we to judge somebody for their actions? I am sure that almost everyone, at some point in their lives, has had the thought of suicide even if it was just a stray thought. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying that I agree with every suicide out there because you would be wrong. I don't know if any of you have ever heard of a man named Dr. Kevorkian.... He was a doctor, although a bit crazy and probably the wrong advocate for his cause, that assisted people in ending their lives. Extremely controversial, but he did have criteria that had to be met before he would agree to the procedure. How many of you have sit and watched one of your loved ones die from a terminal cancer? Did you actually spend a lot of time around this person? Did you see their suffering? We "put our pets down" when we see that they are terminally ill because it is the only "humane" thing to do. Yet we sit around and watch our loved ones suffer in pain that isn't even imaginable. Do we care more for our pets? No we do not, but today's society would have you believe that it is weak to allow a person that is suffering (with no cure) to decide to end their own lives.

    Ask yourself how you would feel if tomorrow you had an accident and all you could do is blink your eyes..... would you want to live for weeks, months, or even years like that? Or if you were diagnosed with a terminal disease and had to suffer pain that you have never felt before for no telling how long would you not want the choice to call the shots a little? Wouldn't it be better to leave the ones that you love and care about with the knowledge that you didn't suffer and that you got to die peacefully?

    People who are bullied are not the only ones that commit suicide. I personally want to die peacefully with no pain, although that will probably not happen. The truth is that we are all going to die anyways, that is something that we all have in common. So don't judge.
     
         

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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    Of course it's selfish.
    There are so many others in worse situations than yourself. I hate using this, but people in Africa and poverty stricken countries try so hard to stay alive everyday, they want to live, and there situation is a shit load worse than what yours is.

    They carry a bucket of water for Kilometers on end just to get water, this is while trying not to get abducted and raped. And you, well you just got called fat or ugly and say that you have no one. How terrible -.- There are so many people out there for you, willing to help and be there for you, but still they choose to be ignorant.

    So many things to do in the world, so many things to see and so much to discover and explore. Why take that all away?
     
         

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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    Be mature enough to know that a lot of people around you cares for you. Your family, friends and relatives.
    Oh, and if you are a catholic or christian, committing suicide will be a free ticket to hell.

    Suicide is not a heroic but a cowardly act. Remember that.
     
         

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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    Quote Originally Posted by Okumura Rin View Post
    Of course it's selfish.
    There are so many others in worse situations than yourself. I hate using this, but people in Africa and poverty stricken countries try so hard to stay alive everyday, they want to live, and there situation is a shit load worse than what yours is.

    They carry a bucket of water for Kilometers on end just to get water, this is while trying not to get abducted and raped. And you, well you just got called fat or ugly and say that you have no one. How terrible -.- There are so many people out there for you, willing to help and be there for you, but still they choose to be ignorant.

    So many things to do in the world, so many things to see and so much to discover and explore. Why take that all away?
    "Dying is not a crime." -Jack Kevorkian
     
         

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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    its not a bad thing or a good thing
     
         

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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    It definitely is selfish but people aren't understanding something in this topic. It may be selfish but the choice is ultimately theirs to make.
     
         

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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    Quote Originally Posted by ventalus View Post
    you can never truly understand the person until you know same pain as him/her.
    ^^ this
     
         

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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    Be mature enough to know that a lot of people around you cares for you. Your family, friends and relatives.
    Oh, and if you are a catholic or christian, committing suicide will be a free ticket to hell.

    Suicide is not a heroic but a cowardly act. Remember that.
    how about people without family, friends, and relatives? how about people who have nothing nor someone caring for them?
     
         

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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    Yes.....suicide is for *****'s.......that is all
     
         

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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    I don't think it's that bad.. Whenever you're meant to re-converge you're meant to re-converge.. No matter the method. And suicide is a response to overwhelming pain, one of the body's FIRST instinct is self-preservation, for that to be overridden, the body must experience a decent amount of trauma or have a mental pre-disposition. Selfish..? Yes, but so is an orgasm. Misunderstood.. Very.
     
         

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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    the thing to remember is that people who are driven towards suicide have a different perspective on life, so talking about will and all that is irrelevant. we're talking about people who've been conditioned to see no good around them and in themselves, who have no hope. so i think it's not much the selfishness on their part that's the problem than the cumulative selfishness and blind eyes of society that drive people to that state. Mother Teresa said that loneliness is the biggest disease in western countries, and she's probably right.
     
         

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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    No...
    Yer you leave behind people and they have to deal with the aftermaths, But what about the person? ..
    For one It's never easy to commit suicide - there's the actual thinking of it, planning of it and then "Doing it" which is the hardest thing.. so to get to that point, the person have had to deal with enough to push them there. Then to do it with ties still in this world is something insane (I should know :/ )
    It comes down to the person's own situation - End the life in which has been "beyond words" and bring peace to one's self... or live on suffering (most of the time) making things worse.
    People often say it is .. without ever taking in the person's feelings n views.. but for that to happen, they have to go through the same life they lead including the actions they took... When people say there's help - doesn't ever mean it's "Help".

    (oh and on this note, Never never bring religion into this kind of matters (Not saying anyone has here) cos they just make it thousand times worse (just saying.. not starting no flame wars or insulting them.. they just do - again - trust me)
     
         
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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    No, there's nothing about suicide that's inherently selfish; that is to say that there is no reason why, all other things being equal, an agent who is capable of making rational decisions should not have the right to self-determination with respect to the continuation or discontinuation of their own life.

    That said, it is certainly possible that a person can commit suicide for reasons that are, at least in part, selfish i.e. to get back at somebody but even then I don't think that selfishness alone can even come close in sufficiently motivating a person to take their own life; depression, stress, grief and so on are all motivators which render selfishness essentially negligible, even if it is overtly stated as the primary motivator. Ultimately, suicide is a personal choice, and a person has no obligation to relinquish their right to choose even if those who know them would prefer that they continued living - though the decision is certainly one of choosing personal happiness over the happiness of others, there is no moral obligation one way or the other, so somebody who commits suicide should really be immune to admonishment.
     
         

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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    Suicide is in a way a selfish act. Cause by ending your own life you want to ease your own suffering. Failing to grasp that however bad you may have been in the living, there will always be at least one person who would be extremely and genuinely sad by your passing. You might also be the reason for some one's life and by killing yourself you take away that reason. Most of the times its the parents.

    So yeah I would consider it selfish in that respect. Although it was his decision to make. People who live for others are truly selfless.
     
         

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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    It's not selfish,it's dumb... -.-
    P.S. I didn't want to click dislike button...sry :S
     
         

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    Re: Is suicide a selfish act?

    Nope...
     
         

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