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    Re: The Rinnegan powers of Uzumaki's are unique.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nafee View Post
    Because they had a counter for it. go read the manga.
    They countered Kamui too, did he stop using that?
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    Tobi normally lies when he has to. Lying 24/7 to make people think he can do things he can't is something I haven't seen tobi do, plus it was an important situation and the information for yamato was needed. I don't see why tobi would tell kabuto don't worry I got this, if he couldn't really get the information. Unless he knew kabuto would say no we need him for hashirama blah blah, but once again this is all looking unlikely.

    For things about rinnegan control, we have to remember nagato grow up with it since he was a little boy till about 40+, where as madara and obito have had it for relatively sort periods of timed compared to nagato. Two reasons for their lack of rinnegan use; one is the things we have discussed about tobi. And two is madara would just be wayyyyyy to OP if he used all the paths as well as everything else he can do. That's basically another nagato
    Being too op isn't really a valid reason, he's too op with just infinite chakra and Susanoo.

    And I guess controlling the Mazou and people through it just comes naturally then? Obito called them HIS NEW Six Path's of Pain, yet they were nothing more than remotely controlled Jinchuuriki.

    And how would he know Human Path if he didnt know how to use Tendo? Lots of contradiction here.
     
         

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    Re: The Rinnegan powers of Uzumaki's are unique.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson Trickster View Post
    This. Obito can use the Outer Path and the Human Path. Madara has already shown on two occasions to use Preta Path. It's a completely baseless assumption on your part that their other abilities must differ, when, I think you're forgetting that Madara transplanted his Rinnegan unto Nagato. Of course he would have the same abilities as Nagato. That was his Rinnegan to begin with. Nothing you stated has any proof that the Uzumaki somehow have this "special" ability to unlock more traits from the Rinnegan, than the Uchiha themselves. That makes ZERO sense.
    Yeah he used Preta Path, but I believe the Meteor was his EMS jutsu, why else would his Susanoo make hand signs along with him?
     
         

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    Re: The Rinnegan powers of Uzumaki's are unique.

    Quote Originally Posted by iSpeak the Truth View Post
    They countered Kamui too, did he stop using that?


    Being too op isn't really a valid reason, he's too op with just infinite chakra and Susanoo.

    And I guess controlling the Mazou and people through it just comes naturally then? Obito called them HIS NEW Six Path's of Pain, yet they were nothing more than remotely controlled Jinchuuriki.

    And how would he know Human Path if he didnt know how to use Tendo? Lots of contradiction here.
    They only found out the counter to kamui in that fight and except kakashi no one can counter kamui and if I may add Obitto is better at it than kakashi since that's his own eye.

    And as a matter of fact OP is a perfect reason as well. That would make the manga go out of its way and kishi would have to do something stupid or unlikely to defeat Obito. e.g. "Death Note's ending"
     
         

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    Re: The Rinnegan powers of Uzumaki's are unique.

    Quote Originally Posted by iSpeak the Truth View Post
    Yeah he used Preta Path, but I believe the Meteor was his EMS jutsu, why else would his Susanoo make hand signs along with him?
    Meteor is Rinnegan power
     
         

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    Re: The Rinnegan powers of Uzumaki's are unique.

    We have seen all the Rinnegan has to offer so I guess Kishi isnt all that big on repeating it
     
         

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    Re: The Rinnegan powers of Uzumaki's are unique.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson Trickster View Post
    Maybe to strengthen the effects of his Basho Ten'nin? The Susano'o is made up of the user's chakra, after all. Plus, he had the Rinnegan activated while he did it. It's far more likely he used the Deva Path to pull a meteor in than some random EMS jutsu which hasn't been seen since.
    The EMS jutsu was the weaving of the signs with Suasnoo
     
         

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    Re: The Rinnegan powers of Uzumaki's are unique.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nafee View Post
    They only found out the counter to kamui in that fight and except kakashi no one can counter kamui and if I may add Obitto is better at it than kakashi since that's his own eye.

    And as a matter of fact OP is a perfect reason as well. That would make the manga go out of its way and kishi would have to do something stupid or unlikely to defeat Obito. e.g. "Death Note's ending"
    What difference does it make when they found a counter? If Obito wasn't using God mode because they had a counter, then Kamui should have been even more dangerous for him since Naruto blasted his face off in there.

    And you have absolutely no idea about Kishimoto's capacity! Narrow minds can't even begin to understand the genius and potential in his story and him. So I suggest you stop trying get in his head, it's impossible for you or any of us to even begin to think like him or how he builds his story. There is a reason Kishimoto is a millionaire and Naruto is #1 and it's that people like you cannot figure him out.
     
         
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    Re: The Rinnegan powers of Uzumaki's are unique.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson Trickster View Post
    Maybe to strengthen the effects of his Basho Ten'nin? The Susano'o is made up of the user's chakra, after all. Plus, he had the Rinnegan activated while he did it. It's far more likely he used the Deva Path to pull a meteor in than some random EMS jutsu which hasn't been seen since.
    Sasuke's Mangekyou abilities and his Susanoo mimic each other right?

    So why shouldn't Madara's? He called his Susanoo "Destruction-incarnate". Tell me, what do 2 consecutive meteors cause?
     
         

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    Re: The Rinnegan powers of Uzumaki's are unique.

    Quote Originally Posted by iSpeak the Truth View Post
    What difference does it make when they found a counter? If Obito wasn't using God mode because they had a counter, then Kamui should have been even more dangerous for him since Naruto blasted his face off in there.

    And you have absolutely no idea about Kishimoto's capacity! Narrow minds can't even begin to understand the genius and potential in his story and him. So I suggest you stop trying get in his head, it's impossible for you or any of us to even begin to think like him or how he builds his story. There is a reason Kishimoto is a millionaire and Naruto is #1 and it's that people like you cannot figure him out.
    lol troll. you can't back your theory up so you just gonna start spewing shit at me. There's also a reason everyone disagrees with you. But you need a brain to understand that.
     
         

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    Re: The Rinnegan powers of Uzumaki's are unique.

    they probably doesnt think it's necessary
     
         

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    Re: The Rinnegan powers of Uzumaki's are unique.

    And since when do I wonder do eye techs require hand signs?
     
         
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    Re: The Rinnegan powers of Uzumaki's are unique.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nafee View Post
    lol troll. you can't back your theory up so you just gonna start spewing shit at me. There's also a reason everyone disagrees with you. But you need a brain to understand that.
    Move on and keep insulting Kishimoto like you know him dimwit, go chase your tail.
     
         

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    Re: The Rinnegan powers of Uzumaki's are unique.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson Trickster View Post
    That's a pretty claim. What do you have to back it up?
    So I think Meteor kind of = Chibaku Tensei only on another level because Edo Madara has unlimited Chakra. I'm not sure it's possible for Madara to be pulling in meteors, so I think he created them with Chibaku Tensei. I'm guessing using Susanoo to weave the seals must have allowed him some advantage.... I'm not sure what it would be other than looking cool
     
         

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    Re: The Rinnegan powers of Uzumaki's are unique.

    fail then why did madara ask obito to revive him there is nothing special about the uzumaki he just not doing it because he doesnt want to.

    people try so hard to try to make the uzumaki look like they have somthing special.they are just weak trash. uchiha and senju is all that matters
     
         

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    Re: The Rinnegan powers of Uzumaki's are unique.

    Quote Originally Posted by iSpeak the Truth View Post
    Move on and keep insulting Kishimoto like you know him dimwit, go chase your tail.
    hey, I'm not the one going against your super great Kishimoto's manga. and yes, since when do eye techs require hand signs?
     
         

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    Re: The Rinnegan powers of Uzumaki's are unique.

    Quote Originally Posted by lord sauke View Post
    fail then why did madara ask obito to revive him there is nothing special about the uzumaki he just not doing it because he doesnt want to.

    people try so hard to try to make the uzumaki look like they have somthing special.they are just weak trash. uchiha and senju is all that matters
    Exactly my good man. Madara never knew Obito back when he gave his eyes to Nagato. If he did, he could've probably used Obito since he was so loyal to him.
     
         

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    Re: The Rinnegan powers of Uzumaki's are unique.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson Trickster View Post
    That's rather irrelevant in terms of solid evidence, don't you think? And they don't exactly "mimic" each other either. Sasuke is an Amaterasu master. Madara is a Susano'o master. Itachi is a Tsukuyomi Master. This has nothing to do with Madara's Rinnegan abilities. Rinnegan itself, as seen with Nagato's Shinra Tensei of Konoha, also caused a shit ton of destruction. What's your point? You can't make the distinction based on how much destruction they cause.
    We're not convicting criminals in court. Logical interpretation is not entirely baseless or irrelevant. It might be a far fetched claim, but I'm just trying to make a connection here. Madara destroys mountains and landscape with ease with that jutsu and his perfect Susanoo. That's a solid connection.
     
         

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    Re: The Rinnegan powers of Uzumaki's are unique.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crimson Trickster View Post
    No, if he'd used Chibaku Tensei, we would've seen it.



    We saw none of these things happen with Madara's meteors, so we can only assume he pulled them in with Bansho Ten'nin
    Well we did see it in the manga so I guess we'll know for sure when we see it in the anime. Personally I believe that this is a stylistic choice. In a manga when you are amping up a fast paced fight it makes more sense to use one panel of the meteor being there than 4 panels of the meteor being created. They wanted to bring about the impression that Madara was on a whole other level and him just throwing out high powered jutsu after high powered jutsu was their way. Tons of stuff happen off panel so he could've created it off panel.

    Who knows? We won't know for sure till it's animated, but I just don't see how there are enough meteors to make that a legit jutsu. He has to create them or it's kind of like Kirin in it's effectiveness... which I think it clearly isn't..
     
         

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    Re: The Rinnegan powers of Uzumaki's are unique.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nafee View Post
    hey, I'm not the one going against your super great Kishimoto's manga. and yes, since when do eye techs require hand signs?
    Since Itachi made one to build up his chakra for Amaterasu.
     
         

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    Re: The Rinnegan powers of Uzumaki's are unique.

    Ok let me put a end to this crap..:

    1. Nagato was able utilize them better because he did not have to move. He also, divided the powers into 6 different bodies..

    2. Edo Nagato did his crap , because he was a edo and Kabuto was watching out for Nagato.. so his vision has expanded to.

    3. That Rinnegan belonged to Madara Uchiha.

    4. Rinnegan powers take a toll on your freakin body..especially if you have to move around.. so its perfect sense he doesn't want to use them.

    5. Meteors is basically a advanced version of Chibaku tensei....
     
         

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