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    Quote Originally Posted by Derp Obito View Post
    This makes perfect sense then, as I have previously stated, Madara sees himself as the the new Amitabha Buddha, remember when Tobi spoke of Nagato as being the "Third Sage of the Six Paths" implying that the first two are the Rikudou Sennin and Madara (who awakened the Rinnegan) now, both Rikudou Sennin and Madara desired peace, however the former desired true peace while the latter desired an illusory peace in the Mugen Tsukoyomi, this would be antithetic to what the original Amitabha (Rikodou Sennin) wanted, true peace, what Madara wants (The Self-Proclaimed New Amitabha) is an illusory world, or known as Maya in Indian Philosophy, and like in Indian philosophy. True enlightenment is achieved by recognizing the illusory world (Maya) and only from this realization can one truly attain true enlightenment (Nirvana) however Madara (The Self-Proclaimed New Amitabha) desires the former, the Maya (Illusory World) as the absolute truth which is contrary to what the true Amitabha (Rikudou Sennin) desires. From this we can see the messianic delusions of Madara, he sees himself as the new Sage of the Six Paths who wants to bring peace in the world. However this "peace" is nothing more than an illusion (Mugen Tsukoyomi) therefore he is a False Amitabha Buddha.

    Now, with regards to "Dharma" it is in a sense similar to the ideal Shinobi, duty, obligation, honor,etc. and only by following the Dharma of the Amitabha (Rikudou Sennin) can one become a Bodhisattva or an "enlightened human" or a true, ideal shinobi, or sage. This could imply both Naruto and Sasuke, the former (Naruto) is already in most respect an ideal Shinobi, while the latter (Sasuke) is still in the path of darkness, I suspect that when Sasuke meets "The One Who Knows Everything" he will be able to become a Bodhisattva (Ideal Shinobi) and join forces with the other Bodhisattva (Naruto) to fight the False Amitabha (Madara) who has acquired the power of "God" (Juubi). Hence in summation this is what the prediction from your dream means:

    Madara will successfully become the Jinchuuriki of Juubi (God), posessing the power of the Amitabha Buddha (Rikodou Sennin) and he proclaims himself the savior of the world (False Amitabha) that will bring peace through a false enlightnment (Mugent Tsukoyomi) but will be opposed by two Bodhisattvas (Sasuke and Naruto) whereas Madara (False Amitabha) will boast that he has the power of the Buddha (Rikodou Sennin) and God (Juubi) and only the Amitabha Buddha himself (Rikodou Sennin) can stop him, foreshadowing the possible unification of Naruto and Sasuke (Nirvana) to reawaken the power of the true Amitabha Buddha (Rikodou Sennin) to defeat the Jinchuuriki Madara (False Amitabha with the power of God/Juubi).
    You think, that Kishi made it so? Even possible, still....
    I'm no Buddhist and I have no f* idea how it works, however it sounds nice.

    But it would catch people's eye more if the poster of the thread would have said it this way:
    "I think, I explored a hidden thread in the happenings of the plot"
    It would have been a really worthy thread. This way it is a bit chaotic

    It makes more sense on the way you explained if what you say is really in Buddhism's teachings
    Then it's a good thread.
    But not knowing this, please let me say: When I drink too much palinka or whisky I dream such things too! Last time I joined Avril Lavigne on an adventure tour after talking about death and life and the universe. :D
     
         
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    Re: 617

    Quote Originally Posted by dolama View Post
    I saw this in my dream! read!
    this is what madara says to naruto and sasuke

    私は仏の力の私の無限の量で宇宙を 砕する力を持っている。いなくても は私を停止することができます!私 を止めることができる唯一の人は阿 陀仏ですが、彼は今でも私の一部で 。私は最強ですし、天国とピュアラ ンドを越えて存在しています!

    translated:

    I have the power to crush the universe in my infinite amount of power of the Buddha. God can stop me even if I do not need it! The only one who can stop me is Amida Buddha, he is still a part of me. I am the strongest, I have been there and the land beyond the pure heaven!


    More accurate:

    私は宇宙は仏の電源の無限量のクラ シュには電源があります。 神も私を停止することができません 私を停止することができた人は阿弥 仏であるが、彼は私の一部になりま た。 私は、最も強力な、私天と純粋な土 よりも力を持ってます!

    I have the power to crush the universe infinite amount of power of the Buddha. I will not be able to stop me and God. Who can stop me is the Buddha Amitabha, he became a part of me. I have the most powerful force than pure heaven and I land!
    That is pretty deep. However, I think your vision was about ME and not "Madara", of course Madara was "inspired" after the future me. that is why you saw "him" and not "me" as I currently am.
     
         

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    Re: 617

    And how is this spoilers lol?
     
         

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    Re: 617

    Time to be castrated.
     
         

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    what the hell. O_0.
     
         

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    Re: 617

    I have that dream EVERY FREAKIN" NIGHT..........It's as annoying as hell.
     
         

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