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    Obito was not at his best against Minato

    Simply put.

    What happened to his Mangekyou Sharingan? What happened to this beast that took down Kiri's ANBU with neg-diff? What happened to his mokuton?!:














    Obito was basically handicapped by plot during that fight. His chakra reserves were being drained by controlling Kurama , he didn't use his Mangekyou Sharingan, he didn't display mokuton (that kamui-mokuton combo was awesome), and where was Zetsu?!

    It can even be said that Konan gave Obito a harder time than Minato did, as Obito had another sharingan eye at that point, and Konan forced him to use izanagi to save himself. And that was an older, much more experienced Obito.
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not at his best against Minato

    obito did use kamui.
     
         

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    Who knows... maybe I was maybe I wasn't
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not at his best against Minato

    he was 14 he wasnt experienced in battle like he is now, so he was ignorant that day
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not at his best against Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSages456 View Post
    obito did use kamui.
    Yeah, he always does.
    But look at his first time using Mangekyou Sharingan and that combo with kamui + mokuton... it seems better than just using kamui with 3T.
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not at his best against Minato

    He used Kamui which is MS but he didn't have enough chakra to use Wood Release
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not at his best against Minato

    Plot No Jutsu
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not at his best against Minato

    Of course. Like you said, he didn't use Mokuton because of plot. Though, if Obito did, he'd have to have killed Minato with his first use of it during that battle. If Minato would have dodged it, then he would have be aware and cautious of it from then on. So, I doubt Mokuton would have played a big factor.
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not at his best against Minato

    obito hasnt changed much at all from when he was fighting minato .. he did use kamui ... and also had the ninetails.... he was at just as gd then as he is now .... if not then he is a little better now
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not at his best against Minato

    He obviously used MS, since he used his S/T jutsu against Minato........................

    Then you will ask for manga proof, well sherlock, there is a very legit reason, why he wasn't shown using MS in his fight with Minato.... Then we would already know that he had Kakashis eye, and Kishi wanted to wait some more, before making it that obvious...

    And Obito wasn't inside his zetsu cloak. So he probably hadn't mastered his mokuton without it yet. When he used to against the mist anbu, he had the zetsu cloak, which is the reason, he could do it. Why did he go without it? Who knows, but he probably had his reasons..
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not at his best against Minato

    He got demolished before he could even use those things simply. If Obito stayed there another 2 minutes, he would have died. It's fact. For plot reasons Kishi pulled him back. Minato had his seal on him and could have rasengan spammed him. He broke the contract seal so Obito had no reason to be there anymore. Minato won out of pure skill. I don't see Obito winning with 2 sharingan, or using his mokuton abilities.
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not at his best against Minato

    i believe he didn't really try fighting but he wanted minato away from the village so the nine tails would destroy it without him protecting it. he tried to absorb the fourth hokage because he wanted him to go away from the village to keep him busy imo
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not at his best against Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Omnipotent View Post
    Yeah, he always does.
    But look at his first time using Mangekyou Sharingan and that combo with kamui + mokuton... it seems better than just using kamui with 3T.
    That obito was fused with a Zetsu though, his current form and his form against minato doesn't look like he is fused with that zetsu anymore, Hence why he hasn't used the same techs now like back then.
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not at his best against Minato

    lol ok even if he was at his best, wat would he have done different apart from run? lol dumbass, minato would spank him again, how would he counter FTG ? there is no counter for it, lol
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not at his best against Minato

    Maybe this mokuton jutsu could be used only on rampage? Maybe Tobi thought that Minato cant do a single shhit to him?
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not at his best against Minato

    Obito did not lay one finguer on minato and minato pop a rasengan on obito back.
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not at his best against Minato

    using that mokuton against minato is useless he can't hit him with it,and he knew that,so he decided to stick to kamui.
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not at his best against Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by ItachiLeeHatake View Post
    Of course. Like you said, he didn't use Mokuton because of plot. Though, if Obito did, he'd have to have killed Minato with his first use of it during that battle. If Minato would have dodged it, then he would have be aware and cautious of it from then on. So, I doubt Mokuton would have played a big factor.
    In all honesty, I don't think Minato would be able to counter someone using a surprise attack with kamui + mokuton (and if Obito didn't have his chakra reserves taxed by controlling Kurama).
    Once again, where was Zetsu? Why didn't he wrap around Obito like Spiral Zetsu did?

    Quote Originally Posted by htmwall View Post
    using that mokuton against minato is useless he can't hit him with it,and he knew that,so he decided to stick to kamui.
    Actually, he didn't use mokuton as Tobi at all, and there are many people Tobi faced who mokuton would have worked against but it wasn't used...

    Quote Originally Posted by Exaar View Post
    That obito was fused with a Zetsu though, his current form and his form against minato doesn't look like he is fused with that zetsu anymore, Hence why he hasn't used the same techs now like back then.
    That mokuton was all Obito...
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not at his best against Minato

    Obito was at his best if not at current GDLK level, but To fight Minato he had best strategy laid out for months and that didn't include WS or him using Izanagi or Minato beating his ass!
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not at his best against Minato

    Obito was also 14 years old at this point
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not at his best against Minato

    i agree, i dont like how he used mokuton so masterfully in his first fight as tobi and NEVER uses it again. I understand its not necessary in most fights due to kamui but against minato? cmonn obito
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not at his best against Minato

    Again another excuse? May i ask you then what happened to these techniques against Danzo's bodyguard? What happened to the Mokuton technique against Konan where he almost died? What happened to Mokuton techniques or Izanagi in the fight against Kakashi, Naruto and Gai?

    The answer is simple. In a battle you use what you seems necessary. You are not there to expose everything you can. Kakashi is the perfect example of that. He simply couldn't do all that against Minato. He was already marked anyway. Using Izanagi wouldn't have change that much. Fighting someone who can teleport himself every seconds makes it useless to use range attack.

    The Kamui in close range was his only option. He needed to restrict his movements, that's even why he used a chain. Even with all those preparations with full knowledge against an enemy who had none, he still got owned and could do nothing else than running away.
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not at his best against Minato

    If he wasn't at his best then he is an complete idiot for challenging minato and konoha lol.
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not at his best against Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post
    Again another excuse? May i ask you then what happened to these techniques against Danzo's bodyguard? What happened to the Mokuton technique against Konan where he almost died? What happened to Mokuton techniques in the fight against Kakashi, Naruto and Gai?

    The answer is simple. In a battle you use what you seems necessary. You are not there to expose everything you can. Kakashi is the perfect example of that. He simply couldn't do all that against Minato. He was already marked anyway. Using Izanagi wouldn't have change that much. Fighting someone who can teleport himself every seconds makes it useless to use range attack.

    The Kamui in close range was his only option. He needed to restrict his movements, that's even why he used a chain. Even with all those preparations with full knowledge against an enemy who had none, he still got owned and could do nothing else than running away.
    Excuse for what? It's just how I interpreted the manga; I guess mokuton wasn't necessary for Minato, yet Minato still ended up smashing Obito into the ground . Sounds like plot to me. I didn't say that izanagi would have changed anything. What I'm saying is that Konan put him in a worse situation that Minato did, and that's fact. If Obito didn't have izanagi against Konan, he'd be long dead.
    Why was Zetsu not present? Didn't mayfly allow him to move incredibly fast? Wasn't he Obito's "friend"?
     
         

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    Re: Obito was not at his best against Minato

    Quote Originally Posted by Exaar View Post
    That obito was fused with a Zetsu though, his current form and his form against minato doesn't look like he is fused with that zetsu anymore, Hence why he hasn't used the same techs now like back then.
    I actually think this is right. Obito had the White Zetsu fused on his body. Not anymore though. Atleast not that I'm certain of.
     
         

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