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01-22-2013, 05:35 PM
#176
Cowabunga!!!
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Re: Tsunade stated that she can't die in a fight
 Originally Posted by Crimson Trickster
And yet again, you dance around the issue - the post you quoted stays right on topic, and completely proves my point. In THIS instance, science can fully well be used in an argument, and I have never stated it would be the same for OTHER instances, that's you attempting to put words in my mouth. Quote me all day long if you like - I'm in the right.
I don't even know why you're still trying when everyone on the thread can see what moronic arguments you're making and have yet to refute the point I made, which you kindly quoted for me (thanks for that).
So you are Kishi huh?
Why does science work in your situation but not explain how Kakashi can breathe underwater? Because it can't. Using biology in both of our scenarios is no different. The fact is, the manga likes to contradict itself as it is in no way humanly or scientifically possibly for a human to talk (let alone breathe in water) without dying. You don't know what Kishi has up is sleeve. You don't know the Byakyo's limits
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01-22-2013, 05:37 PM
#177
Kung fu is a way of life
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Re: Tsunade stated that she can't die in a fight
 Originally Posted by Exaar
I have proof that she is basically immortal.
She is alive while being cut in half, She is still alive, She can still move, She can still use jutsu's, No normal person can survive what she is doing right now.
Thus plus tsunades own statement holds better than your rubbish opinion
this is rediculous... tsunade is not imortal ... if she was struck to the brain then the death is instant... u cant heal that no matter what... healing wounds and cuts and things maybe fatal injuries but not vital spots... the reason tsunade is still moving whiles cut in half is because no vital organs have been struck... as for ur logic there are people around in wheel chairs that dont have legs that are around..
if tsunade was beheaded then she would die... reason for this is that the brain is what functions her jutsu's her nervous system and everything if that is detached from her body then her body cant do a thing... tsunade would die because of lack of oxygen to the brain... this is common sence
u cant take everything so litteral in the manga...
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01-22-2013, 05:39 PM
#178
Cowabunga!!!
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Re: Tsunade stated that she can't die in a fight
 Originally Posted by Kirikoe
this is rediculous... tsunade is not imortal ... if she was struck to the brain then the death is instant... u cant heal that no matter what... healing wounds and cuts and things maybe fatal injuries but not vital spots... the reason tsunade is still moving whiles cut in half is because no vital organs have been struck... as for ur logic there are people around in wheel chairs that dont have legs that are around..
if tsunade was beheaded then she would die... reason for this is that the brain is what functions her jutsu's her nervous system and everything if that is detached from her body then her body cant do a thing... tsunade would die because of lack of oxygen to the brain... this is common sence
u cant take everything so litteral in the manga...
She was stabbed in the lung by Oro and still was able to talk and breathe. Do you consider lungs to be a vital organ?
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01-22-2013, 05:46 PM
#179
Godaime Hokage
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01-22-2013, 05:46 PM
#180
Senior Member
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Re: Tsunade stated that she can't die in a fight
 Originally Posted by Kusanagi35
What if someone beheads her?
See? Hype is bullsh1t.
it depends on how you behead them. if you cut her head of slowly her neck will heal back in the process. it has to be quick. on that asuma type sh!t
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01-22-2013, 05:47 PM
#181
Cowabunga!!!
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Re: Tsunade stated that she can't die in a fight
 Originally Posted by Crimson Trickster
And did I claim otherwise? Who's going off-topic now? I already accepted Kakashi's instance as an exception wherein it can't be explained as anything but a contradiction and a flaw in the manga. You're arguing things I've already acknowledged
Again, still waiting for you to disprove the little statement you quoted earlier...
Disprove this for me. And don't give me the "we don't know the limits to her regeneration" bullsh it - that's neither a sufficient explanation nor anything remotely resembling a fact 
Again, flawed (science) logic
I'm glad you acknowledge that the manga can contradict itself as it can in Tsunade's case. Again, we are not Kishi so I can't say you are right or wrong and vice versa
However I do stick to my claim SCIENCE IS WEAK WHEN ARGUING ABOUT THE NARUTOVERSE
Manga facts > Science
 Originally Posted by Crimson Trickster
That was explained by her regeneration.
Surviving a decapitation, however, is not explained by her regeneration. In case you didn't know basic biology (I'm guessing you don't), if you sever someone's head, the brain won't be able to send signals to the rest of the body and it will shut down. How is her regeneration going to work when she is beheaded? And how does any of your comment even address the point of the OP?
To further stretch on your statement that is bolded, Byakyo starts from her head down and releases a large chakra volume to reconstruct organs and tissue in the human body
re·con·struct (rkn-strkt)
tr.v. re·con·struct·ed, re·con·struct·ing, re·con·structs
1. To construct again; rebuild.
2. To assemble or build again mentally; re-create: reconstructed the sequence of events from the evidence.
3. To cause to adopt a new attitude or outlook
Based on the definition or "reconstruct" that basically means she can make a new body
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Last edited by HadouKage; 01-22-2013 at 05:50 PM.
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01-22-2013, 05:48 PM
#182
Cowabunga!!!
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Re: Tsunade stated that she can't die in a fight
 Originally Posted by Slug Princess Tsunade
Whats this?
The Soul dragon I believe? The Gedo tech
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01-22-2013, 05:53 PM
#183
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Re: Tsunade stated that she can't die in a fight
LOL! Who takes the time to hate on fictional characters? Get a life dude.
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01-22-2013, 05:57 PM
#184
Cowabunga!!!
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Re: Tsunade stated that she can't die in a fight
 Originally Posted by Crimson Trickster
And when did I ever deny this? Never.
So you are saying, if I understand correctly, that despite the fact that her brains can't send signals to the rest of her body any more because it was severed from it, it will somehow still be able to reconstruct itself even though the signals won't reach the lower part of her body which was severed from the neck?
...Are you sure you know how the human body works?
Do you know how the human body works?
What does it matter if Kakashi breathed in water while in Water Prison Jutsu?
You still go on saying things like "how the human body works" when I just proved to you that
Manga facts > Science
Look at my definition of reconstruct "To re-create" unless the dictionary and the manga are wrong I suggest you prove me otherwise.
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Last edited by HadouKage; 01-22-2013 at 06:00 PM.
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01-22-2013, 05:58 PM
#185
Atashi wa...
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Re: Tsunade stated that she can't die in a fight
 Originally Posted by Slug Princess Tsunade
Whats this?
The demonic statue of the outer path.
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01-22-2013, 06:01 PM
#186
~ BLACK MAMBA ~
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Re: Tsunade stated that she can't die in a fight
 Originally Posted by Misaki Yata
How is it a hate thread? He's only stating that Tsunade can't regenerate limbs or fallen body parts.
Dude what manga do you read seriously ?
She hastens the creation of new cells through division. She can even restore vital organs instantly to its uninjured state. As long as Tsunade has chakra it is IMPOSSIBLE for her to die by ANY means, as such she gains a form of "immortality" throughout the duration of the technique.This makes her virtually invincible just like orochimaru.
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01-22-2013, 06:02 PM
#187
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Re: Tsunade stated that she can't die in a fight
 Originally Posted by Exaar
Uzumaki's are know for their strong life force.
It doesn't stop them from dying when cut in half.
Strong life force, giving them a little longer time with living...... Just as Kushina had the Tail Beast extracted, every Shinobi died IMMEDIATELY as Kushina survived. A strong life-force prolongs your living through any circumstance....
Well, except decapitation... Your head is severed from your body. -___- your body has no link to your brain anymore, she's not Hidan.
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01-22-2013, 06:03 PM
#188
~ BLACK MAMBA ~
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Re: Tsunade stated that she can't die in a fight
 Originally Posted by Crimson Trickster
And when did I ever deny this? Never.
So you are saying, if I understand correctly, that despite the fact that her brains can't send signals to the rest of her body any more because it was severed from it, it will somehow still be able to reconstruct itself even though the signals won't reach the lower part of her body which was severed from the neck?
...Are you sure you know how the human body works?
She can't... she can't make a new body. She... no. Just... just no.
I don;t know why your trying to bring real life science into a manga.She can manipulate her dna to create new cells.Any cell she wants.
This is not up for debate your wrong so just accept it.Contrary to what you might believe the world is not going to end because your wrong about this.
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01-22-2013, 06:07 PM
#189
~ BLACK MAMBA ~
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Re: Tsunade stated that she can't die in a fight
 Originally Posted by Crimson Trickster
That's cute and all, but there is no mangafact stating that Tsunade can survive decapitation so.... you're an idiot
...You're saying, what, that she can... make a new body from the HEAD DOWN?
The technique itself does not regenerate the old cells, rather it hastens the creation of new ones through division - but cells can only divide by a limited number of times before cell division stops. It's this thing called the Hayflick limit which is acknowledged by the manga itself, I suggest you look it up before making inane statements 
The limit of creating cells has no bearing on what you originally said.How does her limit of creating new cells have anything to do with her not being able to survive decapitation.She has already showed us she can still live after being impaled (because in case you haven't noticed real life life science also dictates that you need your organs to live.....real life science also states you cant get cut in half and still be alive)
Your just picking hairs and now that your backed in a corner your going to change the subject.
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01-22-2013, 06:10 PM
#190
Cowabunga!!!
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Re: Tsunade stated that she can't die in a fight
 Originally Posted by Crimson Trickster
That's cute and all, but there is no mangafact stating that Tsunade can survive decapitation so.... you're an idiot
...You're saying, what, that she can... make a new body from the HEAD DOWN?
The technique itself does not regenerate the old cells, rather it hastens the creation of new ones through division - but cells can only divide by a limited number of times before cell division stops. It's this thing called the Hayflick limit which is acknowledged by the manga itself as it stated her life span is shortened by using this technique, I suggest you look it up before making inane statements 
That's cute and all but is there is no mangafact stating Tsunade can't survive decapitation so.... you're an idiot as well 
Although Narutopedia, isn't the best source (somewhat reliable) they cited her tech from the databook which I'm sure it has no reason to be made up. It said that "she could reconstruct vital organs"
Like I've stated before, I don't know why you are bringing science into a manga as
Manga facts > Science
Like I've said several times, we are not Kishi so we don't know what would happen. If she did not have Byakyo then this wouldn't even be debatable
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01-22-2013, 06:11 PM
#191
~ BLACK MAMBA ~
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Re: Tsunade stated that she can't die in a fight
 Originally Posted by Crimson Trickster
Read before you post, numbskull.
No **** i read it.So once again ill ask.What does the overall limit of times she can make new cells have anything to do with decapitation ?
NOTHING.
MANGA FACTS >SCIENCE
Your stand point would also cover her not being able to be alive after being cut in two.You know since you wanna talk real science.
This is not real science this is a manga.What is it about manga that you don't understand ?
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01-22-2013, 06:13 PM
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Re: Tsunade stated that she can't die in a fight
 Originally Posted by The Infernal Spirit
The limit of creating cells has no bearing on what you originally said.How does her limit of creating new cells have anything to do with her not being able to survive decapitation.She has already showed us she can still live after being impaled (because in case you haven't noticed real life life science also dictates that you need your organs to live.....real life science also states you cant get cut in half and still be alive)
Your just picking hairs and now that your backed in a corner your going to change the subject.
Can you please wait in line, shes is already destroying someone (Another noob) and your turn will come next, so please stay in line.
Thank you
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01-22-2013, 06:14 PM
#193
~ BLACK MAMBA ~
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Re: Tsunade stated that she can't die in a fight
 Originally Posted by Crimson Trickster
I don't even know where to begin with a post this retarded. Go back to read the entire argument - you're jumping in with moronic statements that I've already addressed in previous posts.
Words can't even describe how stupid and naive you are lol
Peace out homie
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01-22-2013, 06:16 PM
#194
Cowabunga!!!
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Re: Tsunade stated that she can't die in a fight
 Originally Posted by Crimson Trickster
That's retarded. The burden of proof is on you as you're the one making a claim that she can survive it - that's how it works. When debating any issue, there is an implicit burden of proof on the person asserting a claim. You're the one asserting a claim, hence it's on you to prove she would survive it. Also.
Idiot 
How am I an idiot when neither one of us has proof her surviving?
I just contradicted your statement about Science in manga (which you've already agreed too)
Without proof neither of us can say we are right or wrong
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01-22-2013, 06:19 PM
#195
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Re: Tsunade stated that she can't die in a fight
well thats what tsunade said.but madara said something different
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01-22-2013, 06:20 PM
#196
~ BLACK MAMBA ~
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Re: Tsunade stated that she can't die in a fight
 Originally Posted by ~Theleader~
Can you please wait in line, shes is already destroying someone (Another noob) and your turn will come next, so please stay in line.
Thank you 
Destroying a noob ?
He or She is doing nothing of the sort.All there doing is citing lines off of narutopedia while at the same time trying to debunk it with real life science even though this is a fantasy manga. This person is trying to say a head can't be stored because science says so.
And somehow correlates the fact that tsunade can only make news cells a limited number of times as a reason she cannot restore her brain.For all this "science" talk this person throws around this person doesn't even know that the brain constitutes as a organ.
The stupidity is so rampant i am at a loss of words to describe how utterly fail this person is.
And as sad as this is to say your just as stupid for even listening.
The fact this person got so much rep is a ****ing mystery to me.
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Last edited by The Infernal Spirit; 01-22-2013 at 06:24 PM.
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01-22-2013, 06:22 PM
#197
Swordsmen
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Re: Tsunade stated that she can't die in a fight
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01-22-2013, 06:23 PM
#198
Cowabunga!!!
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Re: Tsunade stated that she can't die in a fight
 Originally Posted by Crimson Trickster
Even if we do not have solid and indisputable proof, we can use logical reasoning and other evidence based around our claims (such as the manga page I cited for you earlier to make my case) to come to a conclusion. It's not that difficult 
Yet, how in anyway, how can I use logic to describe Kakashi's situation?
Science is flawed in the eyes of (this) manga
I've reached the conclusion that we are not Kishi, we don't know what BS he can pull
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01-22-2013, 06:27 PM
#199
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Re: Tsunade stated that she can't die in a fight
tsunade surely can die but her medical ninjutsu makes it harder do kill her (she can stop bleeding or she cannot feel pain)
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01-22-2013, 06:28 PM
#200
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Re: Tsunade stated that she can't die in a fight
dudes such a hater. Tsunade>= oro slugs>snakes. And do.t give the oro doesnt die crap. He may not stay dead but he loses battles
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