Danzo and the Kyuubi incident. What really happened....

[iSpeak the Truth -in detention-]

What would Danzo gain from the Kyuubi incident?

Both the Kage's, the current(Minato) and the former(Hiruzen), dead. Afterwards, Obito would just take the Kyuubi with him, leaving Danzo to take control of Konoha.

In case Obito failed, The Uchiha Clan's loyalty would still be brought into question by Shimura Danzo.

But why would Obito help Danzo?

Danzo's alliance with Hanzo, caused Yahiko's death, which paved the way for Nagato's manipulation by Obito. Obito's biggest roadblock(Yahiko) was removed that night, thanks to Danzo. Which makes me question Obito's motives for attacking Konoha with the Kyuubi, it all seems like another Danzo orchestrated attack for a favor, which he performed by causing Yahiko's death without any suspicion falling on Obito, and all the blame automatically going only to Hanzo and Danzo.


Which brings us to our next topic, the Uchiha massacre, which was ultimately caused by, that's right, the Kyuubi incident. And Danzo got rid of the Uchiha, a problem for him in case he became Hokage, and got a buttload of Sharingan for his Izanagi.

He went behind Hiruzen's back and got into Itachi's head by carefully using his love for Sasuke and forcing Itachi to act out of desperation, Hiruzen was contemplating a solution, and he didn't look too worried about the Uchiha(sitting there smoking his pipe).

Who knows, he might have even made Itachi the Hokage and ended the feud right there.

But Danzo didnt let it happen. He wanted to avoid a peaceful solution, Danzo even went as far as snatching out Shisui's eye when Shisui offered to end it with Koto Amatsukami.

Is it possible? I think so. But it is still speculation and not fact. Not yet.

A fact that does strengthen my theory, is that Obito mentions meeting Danzo on the night of the Uchiha Clan massacre(where they both gained all their extra Sharingan), just before he summons Sasuke to get his revenge on him.

[Tec]

This has been done by many people. Search bar.

[iSpeak the Truth -in detention-]

This has been done by many people. Search bar.

I believe the first one was still me. I have the thread, this is a way more detailed version.

[Naruto insane killer]

Totally Agreed

Another incident during pain arc IMO it was another attack in favor of danzo so that he can become next hokage.

[iSpeak the Truth -in detention-]

Totally Agreed

Another incident during pain arc IMO it was another attack in favor of danzo so that he can become next hokage.

No the Pain arc wasn't. At that point Obito was done performing favors for Danzo. He had nothing more to gain from him.

[TheWillofFire]

Dont inderstand this
Everything itachi, hiruzen, and itachi did was as peaceful as possible

[iSpeak the Truth -in detention-]

Dont inderstand this
Everything itachi, hiruzen, and itachi did was as peaceful as possible

You mean slaughtering the entire clan and his parents was peaceful?

[Madara55]

Dnt think so

[Tec]

One thing to add to this, Tobi / Obito has had contact with Danzo at the time of the Uchiha Massacre as he states this just before fighting his two body guards.. Foo and Torune. If any one doubts feel free to go look it up. I'm not sure on the manga chapter, but the anime episode is "208" I was watching it earlier.

[rollin]

Good theory
Danzo was also thought to be behind the attack oro did on konoha as well
By raikage and Yamato

[iSpeak the Truth -in detention-]

Dnt think so

If you think Danzo even had a shred of loyalty in him for Hiruzen's Konoha, you're sorely mistaken.

[Kyuubibomb]

You mean slaughtering the entire clan and his parents was peaceful?

yes it was in the interest to bring peace instead of a war

[medal32]

Looks like Danzo was a bigger bastard than I thought

[Délta]

seems probable but we'll never know

[iSpeak the Truth -in detention-]

One thing to add to this, Tobi / Obito has had contact with Danzo at the time of the Uchiha Massacre as he states this just before fighting his two body guards.. Foo and Torune. If any one doubts feel free to go look it up. I'm not sure on the manga chapter, but the anime episode is "208" I was watching it earlier.

Done, edited and added, thanks.

Good theory
Danzo was also thought to be behind the attack oro did on konoha as well
By raikage and Yamato

I am positive he was.

yes it was in the interest to bring peace instead of a war

Or many Sharingan instead of no Sharingan.

Looks like Danzo was a bigger bastard than I thought

No, he was a much bigger bastard than even that.

[TheWillofFire]

You mean slaughtering the entire clan and his parents was peaceful?

Yes instead of war, just clan massacre, best peace offer, not the best, but at the moment, yea

[uzumaki lakshitha]

I don't think obito and danzo has a connection in that time.

[iSpeak the Truth -in detention-]

Yes instead of war, just clan massacre, best peace offer, not the best, but at the moment, yea

How can you know that when you didn't even know Hiruzen's solution?

I don't think obito and danzo has a connection in that time.

And you base that on what exactly?

[TheWillofFire]

Hiruzens solution was to wait for coup detat to start...
Danzos and Itachis solution was the best, they are not dumb, esp itachi, he is a great analyzer and a double spy. Itachi knows what must be done to protect konoha, at the moment it was fighting power vs power, since thats how the uchiha wanted to play

[iSpeak the Truth -in detention-]

Hiruzens solution was to wait for coup detat to start...

Uhm do you have a manga page where Hiruzen is stating this? Because I am pretty sure Danzo avoided it and went behind his back.

[TheWillofFire]

Uhm do you have a manga page where Hiruzen is stating this? Because I am pretty sure Danzo avoided it and went behind his back.

Dude do you not understand the coup detat was the NEXT day??
It was ALREADY started, thats why danzo and itachi did it before it could happen
Time ran out

[iSpeak the Truth -in detention-]

Dude do you not understand the coup detat was the NEXT day??
It was ALREADY started, thats why danzo and itachi did it before it could happen
Time ran out

Ok then give me a manga page where it was said that the rebellion was starting the next day.

[TheWillofFire]

Here it states Hiruzens plan failed

And that time ran out, nothing else they could do, itachi had no choice, blah blah blah

[Thundercles]

Ok then give me a manga page where it was said that the rebellion was starting the next day.

I can see what he is getting at. The coup was on the way. Maybe not the next day, but it was def coming.

[iSpeak the Truth -in detention-]

Here it states Hiruzens plan failed

And that time ran out, nothing else they could do, itachi had no choice, blah blah blah

Please.....we saw the flashback of the night Itachi was manipulated by Danzo through Itachi's own eyes not Tobi's words. And no where did it say, that Hiruzen had tried and failed. It seemed like Danzo was hastening things for an alterier motive by going behind Hiruzen's back that night.

You're seriously bringing me Obito's words? The guy who unleashed the Kyuubi on Konoha and then told Sasuke it was a natural disaster?! LMFAO!

Please, try not to use anymore bullcrap evidence when you have a perfectly good and reliable manga page stating the truth. It's obvious you have nothing to back up your claim.