Busting the myths around Itachi's Tsukuyomi.

[Lady Luck]

In response to this thread http://narutobase.net/forums/showthr...yomi+overrated

Can Itachi'stsukuyomi be broken by a perfect Jinjuriki?

• No. The affects of tsukuyomi in the real world are instantanious,
  
  
• Itachi has allready kept killer bee in a genjutsu for longer than than an instant
  
  
• In terms of hype, if tsukuyomi hits Bee it's over
  
  

Simply put the 8 tails is not fast enough to break bee out of itachi's tsukuyomi. Ttachi was able to keep bee in genjutsu for at least a couple of seconds before being broke out, the hahcibi was not fast enough to break itachi's genjutsu meaning bee was not able to relise he was fighting an illusion so Itachi could succesfully escape bee's tentacle and disprirse into crows. The time frame in which all this happend was longer than an instant. so if bee gets hit with tsukuyomi "it's over".

Can tsukuyomi kill a man?

• "Why didn't he just kill me" kakshi says. "i'm suprised he's still alive" kisame says in the same pannel
  
  
• Bogard seems to think tsukuyomi can't kill, which simple increases the argument that he can.
  
  
  

  You miss the point. I'm not saying, he couldn't have kill them, but that tsukuyomi itself can't kill or it would be more correct to say, it depends on the opponents spirit. I believe that someone like Hidan would receive no mental damage even if he gets tsukuyomi'd. He may in the contrary even enjoy it. I even created a thread concerning it.[/url]

Notice I highlighted the word "didn't" kakashi said why didn't he kill me, not why Doesn't he kill me.
so we know kakashi is talking about his time inside the illusion and not the aftermath of it. The case is that itachi spared kakshis life here and he can probably kill people with a mind that is = or weaker than kakshis.

[Thee Beyonder]

Tsukuyomi will work on Jinchuriki/Killer bee don't doubt this

[TouchMyMangos]

#staywanking

[Lady Luck]

#staywanking

Keep that attitude up.

you'll get banned soon enough. just becasue you can't debate it.

[Jellal Fernandes]

#staywanking

:rofl: Your Avatar.

[Douryoku]

#staywanking

Huh...I don't see the wank here. It's Manga fact that Itachi's Tsukuyomi cannot be broken by even Perfect Jinks. It's instant; how are you to break a jutsu which affects you instantly? Put simply, you can't. Not to mention Itachi's Tsukuyomi has been attested to being instant on two separate occasions. Manga fact my good sir.

OP, nice thread. Though it seems the butt-hurt and those in denial will stay like that.

Those interested in the various mechanics of Tsukuyomi should examine my post. [1]

[Thee Beyonder]

Keep that attitude up.

you'll get banned soon enough. just becasue you can't debate it.

Nice Thread fanboys seem to think Bee can't be caught in Genjutsu 4 some reason and that Genjutsu that Sasuke used was not Tsukuyomi

[Kirikoe]

tsukoyomi is a genjutsu obviously... its causes mental damage and is often used as a distraction, while the opponent would see the illusion the user would use that chance to kill the opponent outside the illusion...

in this case i agree with bogard i dont think tsokuyomi can kill but it can cause huge mental stress

[Seraphîm]

Yes, you speak the truth. However, Itachi is dead. ()

[MickNerks]

Killer B escaped that genjutsu as fast as he did with sasuke. And he was able to grab itachi with his tenticle.

You cant say tsukunyomi, will permanently effect a perfect jin, because it has never been seen. But as of now perfect jinchuuriki are able to escape all genjutsu, because there partner can break it.

Im not saying he cant use tsukunyomi on naruto and bee, because i know he could, but kurama and hibiachi would release them from it and since kurama can switch conciousness with naruto, it would save naruto from being completely defenseless while he recovers.

[Lady Luck]

tsukoyomi is a genjutsu obviously... its causes mental damage and is often used as a distraction, while the opponent would see the illusion the user would use that chance to kill the opponent outside the illusion...

in this case i agree with bogard i dont think tsokuyomi can kill but it can cause huge mental stress

Bolded: allready rebuted
Underlined: Lost all credabilty

[BenjerminGaye]

i doubt it can kill. infact we have never seen a genjutsu kill someone

[TouchMyMangos]

Keep that attitude up.

you'll get banned soon enough. just becasue you can't debate it.

who cares, itachi is dead

[Lady Luck]

Killer B escaped that genjutsu as fast as he did with sasuke. And he was able to grab itachi with his tenticle.

You cant say tsukunyomi, will permanently effect a perfect jin, because it has never been seen. But as of now perfect jinchuuriki are able to escape all genjutsu, because there partner can break it.

Im not saying he cant use tsukunyomi on naruto and bee, because i know he could, but kurama and hibiachi would release them from it and since kurama can switch conciousness with naruto, it would save naruto from being completely defenseless while he recovers.

all of your inforamtion is either false or allready been rebuted.

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Yes, you speak the truth. However, Itachi is dead. ()

I fail to see your point, so is pretty much half of Naruto's cast?

[Douryoku]

Killer B escaped that genjutsu as fast as he did with sasuke. And he was able to grab itachi with his tenticle.

You cant say tsukunyomi, will permanently effect a perfect jin, because it has never been seen. But as of now perfect jinchuuriki are able to escape all genjutsu, because there partner can break it.

Im not saying he cant use tsukunyomi on naruto and bee, because i know he could, but kurama and hibiachi would release them from it and since kurama can switch conciousness with naruto, it would save naruto from being completely defenseless while he recovers.

Please don't compare Sasuke's Tsukuyomi with Itachi's. Additionally, the Genjutsu that Kirabi broke out of against Edo Itachi wasn't Tsukuyomi. It was basic Genjutsu, and even then it took a few seconds.

Also, mind telling me how you can remove somebody in a Genjutsu that will be over in an instant? You would firstly have to realize you're in the Genjutsu. It took Kirabi, a Perfect Jinchuriki a few seconds to break out of Sasuke's Tsukuyomi; Itachi's is instant. No Jink is surviving Itachi's Tsukuyomi.

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[Seraphîm]

I fail to see your point, so is pretty much half of Naruto's cast?

And I haven't seen half of you talk about those dead characters. All we see is Minato, Itachi, and the same shit being repeated over and over again. Maybe debate about something else...

[Thee Beyonder]

Killer B escaped that genjutsu as fast as he did with sasuke. And he was able to grab itachi with his tenticle.

You cant say tsukunyomi, will permanently effect a perfect jin, because it has never been seen. But as of now perfect jinchuuriki are able to escape all genjutsu, because there partner can break it.

Im not saying he cant use tsukunyomi on naruto and bee, because i know he could, but kurama and hibiachi would release them from it and since kurama can switch conciousness with naruto, it would save naruto from being completely defenseless while he recovers.

That Itachi he grapped with a tenticle was a fake my friend

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

And I haven't seen half of you talk about those dead characters. All we see is Minato, Itachi, and the same shit being repeated over and over again. Maybe debate about something else...

What if... I dunno... we want to talk about these characters? It's not up to you mate, if you don't like it, deal with it.

[~Khallil-Sama~]

I think naruto can, tho it's 1 sec in real life, for him it's maybe 3 days, so it is for kurama, they will be able to break it in the tsukuyomi itself

[NagatoAme]

There is little point in posting these form of threads, especially in a clear form of subjective attitude. Even if you were attempting to be openly logical rather than carry a voice of senseless, defensive denial, and in turn were determined to reach a plausible explanation. You would likely not win over any validation nor agreement[from those who do not already or are defensive infatuated fans of characters] to your argument. And you have failed to win over any form of concurrence from me due to your lack of presenting any other sides upon your review. All you have offered is merely data is subjected to various opinions and faults, there could be several hidden reasons as to why something occurs and then later does not, one cannot simply take words and call them fact, even canonical data is flawed in itself.

[Seraphîm]

What if... I dunno... we want to talk about these characters? It's not up to you mate, if you don't like it, deal with it.

I know, I know. It's rather sad, really.

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

I know, I know. It's rather sad, really.

I'm sure a snickers bar and a carrot will cheer you up.

[Derek1st]

I guess the most common reason people believe that a Perfect Jinchuriki can break it is because (although tsukyomi is instant and even if it is stopped after a few seconds, days have passed in itachi's mental realm) jinchurikis can communicate with their biju outside of time and space. So literally the very INSTANT tsukiyomi takes place (by instant i mean inside of the persons mind as opposed to the real world) the biju can undo the genjutsu before damage is done.

[~Supreme Itachi~]

great thread

butt hurt minato fans are butt hurt lol

ohhhh dat ITACHI UCHIHA