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    Re: The other half of Kurama

    Quote Originally Posted by cptenn94 View Post
    3 problems with that.

    1 Oro lost his arms to the seal. He couldnt do ninjutsu anymore. Then he entered a new body and absorbed the guys soul. The only real difference, is his arms stopped roting. And since they werent rotten, like his previouse body, he was able to move his arms again. But he still could not use ninjutsu. There is no evidence to show kurama has regained the yin half of his chakra.

    2 Kurama has had 16 years to regen his yin chakra, but yet when naruto accesses his chakra, it is still yang. Naruto has used his chakra before, so kurama is forced to regen his chakra,in those 16 years. But yet even with regen, he still is very much yang chakra. Naruto, when in full bijuu form, (meaning he and kurama had their chakra mixed a bit) when attacked by the chakra absorbing wood dragon, caused it to grow, from all the yang chakra. So there is zero evidence that kurama has his yin back. The "sm" that kurama used has not been confirmed to be sage mode. All it has been confirmed is that it is how he gathers his chakra. And if it is sage mode it doesnt make sense how he can gather it and not lose it(as sage mode runs out). NAruto cannot use sage mode well when low on chakra because he cannot absorb enough nature chakra, because it would disrupt the chakra balance. So based on what we know of sage mode, kurama has not shown that he has it(or the ability to accumulate nature energy,and convert it to his chakra). The best explanation is that kurama uses that stance to conscentrate and focus on molding more chakra.

    3 Minato clearly said he would PERMANTLY seal kuramas yin chakra. He didnt say temporarily. Minato was a sealing master and a bijuu expert(somewhat). He reverse engineered a bijuu dama, and made the rasengan. He also showed he was skilled at seals, useing a seal to protect the hokage monument, and sever obitos control over the kyubii. So far everything he has said has been accurate and truthfull. So why are you saying that minato a master of seals, was wrong when he said he permanetely sealed kurama chakra. Of anyone he should know.


    The last piece of evidence, is kurama, is still the same size as he was AFTER minato sealed his yin chakra. If he could truly regen all his chakra, then he wouldve gotten bigger. But he hasnt.

    The reason minato sealed the yin chakra was not really because it is impossible to seal all of kuramas chakra in a person, but for the seal minato wanted to use on naruto, that much chakra would be to much. Notice the differences between kushinas seal, and narutos seal. Kushinas, is a deadlock kinda seal, that has kurama pinned down, unable to move. I dont think it allows any of kuramas chakra to leak into kushina. Narutos however, was specifically designed to allow kuramas chakra to leak through, and heal naruto, and help him when he needed it. Kurama was also in a cage, and was free to move around in the cage. So simply narutos current seal, is not strong enough to surpress all of kurama. It may be able to do so if a 100% kurama decides to just chill, but would not be able to stop a 100% kurama from breaking the seal.
    wow that was a pretty hard work and very well written but beg to differ on this one since kushina did say her in chapter 503 : http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/503/14 that she will drag the kyubbi with her and die which will delay the revival of it..... which means it can regenerate or revive itself since its a chakra as mentioned here http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/256/13....

    here u can see kyubbi regenerating chakra http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/611/7 http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/615/9

    And nothing has been mentioned about Yin-yang chakra of the kyubbi and hatred if you its the will of the Kyubbi since he hated humans for using him as tool......
     
         

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    Re: The other half of Kurama

    Quote Originally Posted by tejasomina View Post
    Yes, deadly, right? He countered 1+2+3+4+5+6+7 tails' Bijuu Dama with a Dama with One Half of Kurama.. Kurama is way too OP compared to the other individual beasts, and is comparable with the Juubi's power as we see now. I think full Kurama is an essential to either defeat or tame Juubi
    Actually he only countered the ones that still had an Edo jinchuuriki - 2+3+5+6+7. 1T did not have a jinchuuriki anymore (Gaara) and 4T was just cut off (Son Goku?) Still impressive, but not same. And the juubi appears to have more power than just the beasts added together. Also still hasn't completely transformed.
    Then again, the alliance was able to cut off most of the tails, so it may be weakened.
     
         

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    Re: The other half of Kurama

    Quote Originally Posted by tejasomina View Post
    But Naruto learned the original names already and by the time he unites them, they would be united noth with different names, right? The different forms could be the grown-up bijuus. What say?

    Yes, the True Power SO6P is referring to is Mutual Trust, Bonding and Love. Naruto would show it to the Bijuus by setting an example. You have any theory of how it would be??
    No I got none, but it is kinda oblivious how the relationship between Kurama and naruto progress more later in the manga
     
         

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    Re: The other half of Kurama

    what will happen if Naruto get all of it
     
         

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    Re: The other half of Kurama

    Quote Originally Posted by swapnil5843 View Post
    wow that was a pretty hard work and very well written but beg to differ on this one since kushina did say her in chapter 503 : http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/503/14 that she will drag the kyubbi with her and die which will delay the revival of it..... which means it can regenerate or revive itself since its a chakra as mentioned here http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/256/13....

    here u can see kyubbi regenerating chakra http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/611/7 http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/615/9

    And nothing has been mentioned about Yin-yang chakra of the kyubbi and hatred if you its the will of the Kyubbi since he hated humans for using him as tool......
    That's a great find but the reaper death god is a sealing jutsu. It's the same as Itachi's sword. The ones that are sealed within are forever in a battle. So the chakra is sealed with in just like how Oro's arms were sealed and he could

    It's the same reason why who ever is sealed within the death god can't be resurrected by Edo tensei.
     
         

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    Re: The other half of Kurama

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    be neat to see a kurama vs kurama fight. if his other half is released maybe it will take a physical form and naruto and kurama will have to fight it to extract the chakra
    That's got me thinking Sasuke will somehow get the yin chakra, and the final showdown will be Naruto/Kurama-yang vs. Sasuke/Kurama-yin. I hope not. Or I hope so. I'm undecided.
     
         

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    Re: The other half of Kurama

    Before jumping into conclusion, there are several statement:

    1. 1st Hokage Hashi kept Kyuubi for the Leaf Village. The other tailed-beast to the other hidden village.
    2. Minato may knew something special about Kyuubi.
    3. Madara said that Kyuubi must be the last one to extract and put in the Ten-Tailed.
    4. Madara could had understand how SO6P created 9 tailed-beast from Ten-Tailed.
    5. Naruto when on tailed-beast mode, there was something - the cloak with the SO6P symbol. Bee did not had. Naruto could sense Evil.

    SO6P upon creating the 9 tailed-beast by the number of tails, from Ten-Tailed chakra.
    He then start to create 1-tailed-beast, following by 2-tailed-beast, and so on.
    The last one = 9-tailed-beast (Kurama). When creating the Kurama, he could had included something else (leftover).
    Because Madara (#3) had specified that Kurama had to be the last tailed-beast to extract, if not, the Juubi was not in complete form.

    Minato sealed the yin chakra with him.
    Naruto had the yang chakra.
    Over a period, 16 years, Kurama could continue generate the Evil or Yang chakra. When Naruto in the island at the waterfall, he see the evil Naruto. After when he was with Kurama, Kurama said he did not sense the Evil Naruto.
    With his mother help, he completed the transformation and extract some of Kurama's chakra for himself.
    Finally, Naruto wore the cloak similar to SO6P. Also he could sense Evil, nearby and in the battleground.
    Bee did not had what Naruto had.

    Kurama said he was powerful by the 9 tails he had. 8-tailed-beast did not object....
     
         

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    Re: The other half of Kurama

    Looks like this thread's prediction is going to happen
     
         

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    Re: The other half of Kurama

    Saying minato sealed the kyuubi's chakra into him its like saying hiruzen sealed hashirama and tobirama inside him but they are there standing. Kumara's chakra was sealed in that realm not in minato
     
         

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    Re: The other half of Kurama

    the way i see it is, minato sealed the chakra inside himself the same way hiruzen sealed oro's arms into "himself" or hashi + tobirama into his shadow clones.

    naruto may know something is going on, however my bet would be that it's kurama who notices first what has happened
     
         

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