Naruto has never lost in part 2

[UchihaInza]

of course only to sasuke

[The Alchemist]

Sasuke has been rescued by plot more times than even Naruto.

[Lightning Release]

Naruto was not "saved" by Hinata. Naruto could've went sage mode if he wanted, but Pain was *****ing the entire time. Naruto was still, he could've gained sage chakra if he wanted.

Sasuke would've been killed had it not been for karin, juugo, and suigetsu.
Sasuke also would've been killed by the Kage's, had it not been for Obito.

Neither Sasuke nor Naruto have 'lost' a LEGIT, REAL fight in part 2.

If you guys wanna count Naruto meeting Sasuke for the first time in part 2 as a fight, then include where Naruto met Sasuke under the bridge. Each won those encounters.

Sasuke has been SAVED in his fights more than Naruto has. (Manda, Taka, Tobi) have all saved Sasuke.

/thread.

[YowYan]

True that :/ But there are many things wrong this anime's plot. It's become to mainstream which means more childishness (pokemon) more OP'ness (DBZ/Bleach), less detailed character building, complex animation (mainstream). Would be more interesting to see Naruto with a complex long-lasting plot, and Miyazaki as animating director

[UchihaBrothers]

Im talking about in part 2 and Sasuke didn't even "pwn" Naruto at valley of the end that was a high diff fight. No Pain didn't Naruto won that fight it was even stated that Naruto beat Pain several times. He got saved aganist Obito not beat.




Bee killed Sasuke the first time when he stabbed Sasuke with all those swords and the second time was when he knocked Sasuke's lungs off with his Larait.





Sasuke never beat Naruto in part 2, Orochimaru stopped the fight so it was a tie. Who cares if SM Naruto would have been one shotted what does that have to do with him losing a fight?

But he wasnt dead, he was healed.

[RikudoKami]

Naruto lost to Pain with the intent to capture, meaning to go easy, Kurama bailed him out.
Naruto lost to Obito, Kakashi & Guy saved him.
Naruto lost to Itachi, Itachi had it wrapped up in his Genjutsu, once again saved by his friends.

[Koha]

Another one of these threads........

[Draphsin]

Naruto lost to Pain with the intent to capture, meaning to go easy, Kurama bailed him out.
Naruto lost to Obito, Kakashi & Guy saved him.
Naruto lost to Itachi, Itachi had it wrapped up in his Genjutsu, once again saved by his friends.

Naruto also lost to Nagato, Itachi saved him from getting completely sucked dry

[CrimsonFire]

The only solo fight Naruto actually had(at least close) in part 2 was Pain.

[Koha]

15, actually. Which makes the notion that he's one of the strongest characters in the series even more ridiculous.

Technically 16... In real life today he'd be 17, but in the Narutoverse he's still 16.

[ShinraRengan]

Naruto beat Pein by himself.

[Sage mode Tobi]

^ Naruto and Killer Bee were both about to lose here to Tobi. Kakashi and Guy saved his butt.

Let's run it down,shall we?
*Beat a 30% clone of Itachi
*He helped Kakashi take Deidara's arms
*Stalemated with Orochimaru
*Tied with Sasuke
*Beat Kakuzu
*Soloed Pein
*One shotted Kisame leading to his capture,escape, and then suicide
*Currently one-shotted too many legendary ninjas to name, so i'll say 20
By my count Naruto is 30-0-2 in this second part of this war arc.

[DeathandHealing]

Sasuke LOST to itachi. itachi killed himself pretty much. But remember SASUKE WOULD HAVE LOST TO KABUTO If Itachi was not there.
So that entire fight cancels it self out.

Sasuke LOST to Bee

Sasuke Had waay too much Plot armor with dederia ( w/e it's spelled )

[Sharingankingitachi]

Arguement Invalid

[SomeOddStudios]

Naruto has always had some kind of aid against most of the ninja he has faced, I think Sasuke really relied on himself more that Naruto relies on his friend. I mean put them one on one and Naruto practical has to use all of his will and energy....Sasuke doesnt hesitate for anything or anyone (except maybe itachi haha.)

[Cowthulhu45]

lost to pain.

[Zohaku]

hold on for one second sasuke didnt lose to killerbee he won that fight even tho he came to diein almost twice cuz he had a team to help him, hbu we put it like this naruto has never won a fight without someone helping him thats what this thread should really be about, not sayin that sasuke hasnt won many but remember sasuke fought deidara and won no one help him in that much. Naruto fought pain yet how many people fought pain within that segment not to mention pein didnt have all his powers yet and talk about itachi already diein when sasuke fought him, so was nagato when naruto fought pein so this thread really doesnt mean anything besides some people hatin on sasuke
in all honest point no ninja in this show has really won a match by himself and thats meaning by actually defeating them not no battle with a already dead person beside madara cuz madara broke out that justu and madara has bein many of people like the 5 kages.

[Zohaku]

ur wrong sasuke would of ended up killin kabuto if itachi wasnt there it was itachi who made it alittle more complicated for them cuz he was tryin to reverse that justu think about it itachi told sasuke not to kill him so there you go i proven your argument wrong

[SoulHunt3r]

Keep in mind Naruto is 17 years old, not even Sasuke solo'd in Part 2.

Deidara danzo and orochimaru.....

[Zohaku]

Sasuke LOST to itachi. itachi killed himself pretty much. But remember SASUKE WOULD HAVE LOST TO KABUTO If Itachi was not there.
So that entire fight cancels it self out.

Sasuke LOST to Bee

Sasuke Had waay too much Plot armor with dederia ( w/e it's spelled )

ur wrong sasuke would of ended up killin kabuto if itachi wasnt there it was itachi who made it alittle more complicated for them cuz he was tryin to reverse that justu think about it itachi told sasuke not to kill him so there you go i proven your argument wrong
and also if you say sasuke lost to itachi then I say naruto lost to pein cuz pein killed himself that goes both ways kid and also that fight between sasuke and deidara that was a really good fight and also sasuke beat bee whether or not sasuke was almost dieing twice he was still healed by his teammates during that fight as it was still goin on but you look at naruto when he gets help as a naruto victory how can you say anything lets look at it this way neither one of them defeated anyone alone cuz they have had some form of help whethers its a person or summoning.

[Zohaku]

Deidara danzo and orochimaru.....

he did have help for danzo but you cant really say that anyone helped him with physical attack besides healing and sasuke was already banged up from the attacks one the kage summit and oroch was already diein but deidara was his fight sasuke fought him alone whether or not deidara did kill himself sasuke lead deidara to do that if deidara didnt do it then sasuke would of finished him off

[Zohaku]

Let's run it down,shall we?
*Beat a 30% clone of Itachi
*He helped Kakashi take Deidara's arms
*Stalemated with Orochimaru
*Tied with Sasuke
*Beat Kakuzu
*Soloed Pein
*One shotted Kisame leading to his capture,escape, and then suicide
*Currently one-shotted too many legendary ninjas to name, so i'll say 20
By my count Naruto is 30-0-2 in this second part of this war arc.

all those things you just said were invalid he didnt solo pein pein was already weakened when using a justu to destroy the village and also fought other ninjas not to mention you had alot of help on narutos side with hinata stalling pein for a little bit, every other one of those guys he fought that were legendary ninjas he had help with as other ninja were fightin them too, he wasnt the only one who fought that 30% clone, again kakashi helped he wasnt the only one fightin kakuzu, kisame was beatin by guy, he didnt really tie with sasuke and remember sasuke could of killed him and his team the first reunitin moment, the only thing you have that is partly correct is stalemating orochimaru yet tha fight shows how bad ass oroch

[LolChidori]

Bam.
So you're telling me... That the failure to capture Sasuke and bring him back to Konoha was not a defeat on Naruto's part? Come on, bro. Sasuke was smacking them all back and forth as if they had just gotten out of the academy. It was chicken sh*t lol. Naruto even had help. He had HELP. And he still lost. If Orochimaru hadn't stopped Sasuke, they'd be crisps and the newly branded title would be "Sasuke: Shippuden"....
Naruto himself 'fessed at many points of time throughout the manga that should he oppose Sasuke, he would die, given Sasuke the credibility of his current power. Perhaps not now and they are of equal caliber; but that is called "character development", my friend. Your topic is that Naruto has never lost a fight. How wrong you are, sir.

[Redd]

What are you talking about? He lost to Pein far and square.

[Sunagura]

lost to sakura she poision him :D