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    (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

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    Constant falsity is directed into subsection when rivaling the current binomial techniques at hand; Raikiri and Kirin. Theoretically speaking, Raikiri was canonically stated to have extirpated a lightning bolt; albeit bystanders seem to delude presented evidence when paralleling said methods.. Thus reasoning for said threads construction; illuminating an important misconception: Raikiri invalidly cannot extirpate Kirin, insistently deluding canonical evidence stated within the manga.. "No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it." -Albert Einstein



    Hypothesis


    Raikiri is famously recalled Lightning Cutter, and is widely known due to current facts stated canonically..


    • Maito Gai astonishingly stated Kakashi severed a lightning bolt with said technique.
    • Raikiri constantly proclaims to presently be Kakashi's signature technique.
    • Consistency of immense chakra control deems said technique an S-rank jutsu; a formidable weapon.



    Knowing the above factual statements, I will momentarily list factual statements that of Kirin/Lightning itself..


    • Lightning actually goes at variable speeds, because it is not just light, but electron plasma moving through charged air. It can depend on air conditions, but the typical lightning bolts move at 224,000 mph -- or about 3,700 miles per second.
    • You can figure how far you are from the lightning strike by timing the pause between seeing the flash, and hearing the thunder.
    • Kirin is yielded to strike the users target, Sasuke clearly provided said gestures.



    Such being stated, I can deduce by the second fact of lightning that the Sharingan could highly-likely provide "extra" observation and/or enhanced prediction methods[1][2][3][4].. Thus being said, ultimately I consistently predict that Kakashi's Sharingan exceedingly allowed him to envisage an outgoing lightning bolt extirpating the current in the end.. Ongoing pandemonium about the said topic should indeed be extinguished after reading this conspicuous thread; thus one cannot inconsistently deny the proof provided within manga residents followed consistently by databook statements as well.



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    Kirin/Lightning can be extirpated by Raikiri by said means:


    • The given visual prowess of the Sharingan, allows the user capable of envisaging movements; Kirin's wielders hand gestures would be read by Sharingan enabling a counter..
    • The given visual prowess of the Sharingan, allows the user capable of foreseeing future movements; Kirin's wielders gestures would be predicted, enabling a counter..
     
         
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    UH HUH... good to have you back alright
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

    Somebody has been hitting the thesaurus.
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

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    UH HUH... good to have you back alright
    Thank you ninjakid, I missed your rapping prowess greatly, however could we stay on said topic?


    Quote Originally Posted by OrochimaruFan View Post
    Somebody has been hitting the thesaurus.
    My vocabulary has gotten more advanced indeed, however stay on topic shall we?
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrochimaruFan View Post
    Somebody has been hitting the thesaurus.
    I know right, LOL! But his logic is sound so I have very little to say negatively... this time.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by OrochimaruFan View Post
    Somebody has been hitting the thesaurus.
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    if you talk like this in real life (especially in the business world) people will make fun of you dude
     
         

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    m your first thread in a long time. I like it man. and i see your keeping the name in title thing good job man.
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

    God I've missed these threads I'm amazed I understood it @_@
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    You failed the second you compared Kirin to a regular lightning bolt.

    Comments such as these are illogical, and indeed futile to present in a thread such as this; thus being clarified, this thread requires you to debate, and discuss why my theory is flawed. Providing comments such as yours are considered a nonentity.
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

    Quote Originally Posted by DrProof View Post
    Comments such as these are illogical, and indeed futile to present in a thread such as this; thus being clarified, this thread requires you to debate, and discuss why my theory is flawed. Providing comments such as yours are considered a nonentity.
    So, you have no argument? C'mon, you know Kirin is much stronger than a lightning bolt. Raikiri wouldn't affect Kirin due to the massive size and speed of Kirin creating enough force to blow up the top of a large mountain. It would blow away Raikiri and it's user.
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

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    Your fallacious assertions have given me some rather terrible incubi.
    I have consistently injected proof into this theory, as you should see this if you indeed read the thread again -Odin- .. I don't mean to give you incubi, are you alright?


    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    So, you have no argument? C'mon, you know Kirin is much stronger than a lightning bolt. Raikiri wouldn't affect Kirin due to the massive size and speed of Kirin creating enough force to blow up the top of a large mountain. It would blow away Raikiri and it's user.
    I do indeed see what you're getting at Rikerslade however Kirin is STILL a lightning bolt rather you deny such evidential notices or not. You say due to size, I concur this statement; Lightning Transmission[1] as seen here, can defy your testament as to how big Kirin resides.
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

    Quote Originally Posted by DrProof View Post
    I have consistently injected proof into this theory, as you should see this if you indeed read the thread again -Odin- .. I don't mean to give you incubi, are you alright?




    I do indeed see what you're getting at Rikerslade however Kirin is STILL a lightning bolt rather you deny such evidential notices or not. You say due to size, I concur this statement; Lightning Transmission[1] as seen here, can defy your testament as to how big Kirin resides.
    Dude, no.

    First off, how does Lightning Transmission disprove my statement on Kirin's size? It was already shown that Kirin is enormous in size. Kirin against Raikiri is like a cannon against a gun.

    Secondly, Kirin is not a normal lightning bolt. It is cleary larger and stronger.
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

    Quote Originally Posted by DrProof View Post
    I have consistently injected proof into this theory, as you should see this if you indeed read the thread again -Odin- .. I don't mean to give you incubi, are you alright?
    I have read the entirety of your exquisite thread, though I do not agree with its content. Also, your pretentious demeanor is becoming increasingly pitiful, for it gives me reason to think you are making up for a drastic loss. I do not mean to sound disrespectful... but have you lost your testicles?
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    So, you have no argument? C'mon, you know Kirin is much stronger than a lightning bolt. Raikiri wouldn't affect Kirin due to the massive size and speed of Kirin creating enough force to blow up the top of a large mountain. It would blow away Raikiri and it's user.
    LOLOL Kirin is a lightning bolt, just in the shape of a dragon :L
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    So, you have no argument? C'mon, you know Kirin is much stronger than a lightning bolt. Raikiri wouldn't affect Kirin due to the massive size and speed of Kirin creating enough force to blow up the top of a large mountain. It would blow away Raikiri and it's user.
    You have no proof of this. I'm 100% sure you don't. As stated I'm the manga Kirin is a lighting bolt. The reason Sauske could use it when he was out of Chaka is because it actual lightning from nature
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

    Nice analysis.
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

    Hmm, expressing yourself in terms, which 95 % of the base wont understand may not give you good response, but perhaps enable you to deduce, which responses are worth replying to..

    Nonetheless, as I interpret the manga, this whole "lightning edge"-ting, is just a metaphor. I don't think Kakashi ever severed a lightning, I understand it, as Kakashi being very fast and skilled with tajutsu, he himself strikes as a lightning, when using Raikiri, which again is over-exaggerated, since he isn't that fast.

    It's not like Amaterasu is as hot as the sun either. It is just a metaphor, meaning it is the hottest thing in narutoverse, and it can burn away anything (ie. so can he sun).
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

    Quote Originally Posted by thegame View Post
    Hmm, expressing yourself in terms, which 95 % of the base wont understand may not give you good response, but perhaps enable you to deduce, which responses are worth replying to..

    Nonetheless, as I interpret the manga, this whole "lightning edge"-ting, is just a metaphor. I don't think Kakashi ever severed a lightning, I understand it, as Kakashi being very fast and skilled with tajutsu, he himself strikes as a lightning, when using Raikiri, which again is over-exaggerated, since he isn't that fast.

    It's not like Amaterasu is as hot as the sun either. It is just a metaphor, meaning it is the hottest thing in narutoverse, and it can burn away anything (ie. so can he sun).
    You are exceedingly correct on your first clarification.. However, on the second not so much.. As it was stated in both the Databook, and Manga thus it is true. While also, if you re-read why/how Kakashi is able to extirpate Kirin/Lightning I believe you would understand my concept slightly better.

    Him being fast is just the half of it, him being able to foresee and/or envisage the jutsu is the other..
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

    Quote Originally Posted by DrProof View Post
    You are exceedingly correct on your first clarification.. However, on the second not so much.. As it was stated in both the Databook, and Manga thus it is true. While also, if you re-read why/how Kakashi is able to extirpate Kirin/Lightning I believe you would understand my concept slightly better.

    Him being fast is just the half of it, him being able to foresee and/or envisage the jutsu is the other..
    The manga and databook didn't confirm any of it. The key phrase is "It was said" im the sentence "It was said he cutba bolt of lightning in half with it."

    If you have absolute proof that Kakashi did it, as in a panel of him doing it or exact confirmation, please post it.
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaKid114 View Post


    OT: Yes i agree, although i never interpreted Rakiri as a jutsu that could actually cut lightning itself, i've always seen it as a metaphor, describing the unmatched power or strength of it. But it could be that he can do it as well.
    I indeed see what you're saying, but why would Kishimoto canonically release said comments about the technique, if they weren't true? Hype? Why hype a simply S-rank technique? Thus, I can promptly conclude that it is true.

    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    The manga and databook didn't confirm any of it. The key phrase is "It was said" im the sentence "It was said he cutba bolt of lightning in half with it."

    If you have absolute proof that Kakashi did it, as in a panel of him doing it or exact confirmation, please post it.
    As I stated above to NinjaKid (read that RikerSlade) .. I have also a bit more food for thought, how can you deem that Kakashi didn't extirpate lightning? Kishimoto hinted on it with several statements, while as he never diminished the said technique to not have extirpate lightning itself has he? Like you incompetently stated for me to show you proof of said statement, I want you to follow your own advice.
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

    Quote Originally Posted by DrProof View Post
    I indeed see what you're saying, but why would Kishimoto canonically release said comments about the technique, if they weren't true? Hype? Why hype a simply S-rank technique? Thus, I can promptly conclude that it is true.



    As I stated above to NinjaKid (read that RikerSlade) .. I have also a bit more food for thought, how can you deem that Kakashi didn't extirpate lightning? Kishimoto hinted on it with several statements, while as he never diminished the said technique to not have extirpate lightning itself has he? Like you incompetently stated for me to show you proof of said statement, I want you to follow your own advice.
    I see you still haven't posted proof.
    And just cuz one character says something, that doesn't mean it's true. It's just a metaphor meant to bring praise to Raikiri's power.

    Following your logic, Kisame is really a Bijuu without a tail.
    Minato isn't a human being, but a yellow colored flash.
    Gai and Lee aren't humans, but beasts.

    After all, Kishi canonically confirmed those, just like how he canonically said Raikiri has cut a lightning bolt...
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    The manga and databook didn't confirm any of it. The key phrase is "It was said" im the sentence "It was said he cutba bolt of lightning in half with it."

    If you have absolute proof that Kakashi did it, as in a panel of him doing it or exact confirmation, please post it.
    In one of the anime episodes where the Allied Shinobi forces were mopping up one swordsman or another it showed younger Kakashi slicing a lightning bolt in half.

    OT: Kirin is far more powerful than a standard lighting bolt, therefore it will kill the person using raikiri. Look at the Kakuzu and Hidan Arc, when Kakashi uses raikiri on Kakuzu's Raiton: False Darkness. His hands are in pretty bad shape, and he looks drained as hell. That was a B-Ranked Technique, and was made through lightning made from chakra. Kirin is an S-Ranked technique, made of pure elemental lightning, and it was able to destroy the massive Uchiha Hideout. I don't think a raikiri or two will be able to stop that
     
         

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