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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

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    Constant falsity is directed into subsection when rivaling the current binomial techniques at hand; Raikiri and Kirin. Theoretically speaking, Raikiri was canonically stated to have extirpated a lightning bolt; albeit bystanders seem to delude presented evidence when paralleling said methods.. Thus reasoning for said threads construction; illuminating an important misconception: Raikiri invalidly cannot extirpate Kirin, insistently deluding canonical evidence stated within the manga.. "No problem can be solved from the same level of consciousness that created it." -Albert Einstein



    Hypothesis


    Raikiri is famously recalled Lightning Cutter, and is widely known due to current facts stated canonically..


    • Maito Gai astonishingly stated Kakashi severed a lightning bolt with said technique.
    • Raikiri constantly proclaims to presently be Kakashi's signature technique.
    • Consistency of immense chakra control deems said technique an S-rank jutsu; a formidable weapon.



    Knowing the above factual statements, I will momentarily list factual statements that of Kirin/Lightning itself..


    • Lightning actually goes at variable speeds, because it is not just light, but electron plasma moving through charged air. It can depend on air conditions, but the typical lightning bolts move at 224,000 mph -- or about 3,700 miles per second.
    • You can figure how far you are from the lightning strike by timing the pause between seeing the flash, and hearing the thunder.
    • Kirin is yielded to strike the users target, Sasuke clearly provided said gestures.



    Such being stated, I can deduce by the second fact of lightning that the Sharingan could highly-likely provide "extra" observation and/or enhanced prediction methods[1][2][3][4].. Thus being said, ultimately I consistently predict that Kakashi's Sharingan exceedingly allowed him to envisage an outgoing lightning bolt extirpating the current in the end.. Ongoing pandemonium about the said topic should indeed be extinguished after reading this conspicuous thread; thus one cannot inconsistently deny the proof provided within manga residents followed consistently by databook statements as well.



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    Kirin/Lightning can be extirpated by Raikiri by said means:


    • The given visual prowess of the Sharingan, allows the user capable of envisaging movements; Kirin's wielders hand gestures would be read by Sharingan enabling a counter..
    • The given visual prowess of the Sharingan, allows the user capable of foreseeing future movements; Kirin's wielders gestures would be predicted, enabling a counter..
    You can't base a manga on actual logic, hence the reason its a manga/cartoon. ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

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    The abstrusity in this post was consistent; however when exactly is lightning extirpating itself common?
    I just told you the truth, my good sir. It is common as , water cutting water. Metal cutting metal. It only depends on which one is the sharper and the greater force.
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

    Quote Originally Posted by CommanderInChief View Post
    I just told you the truth, my good sir. It is common as , water cutting water. Metal cutting metal. It only depends on which one is the sharper and the greater force.
    Are we talking Naruto physics? Or real life..
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

    IMO, kakashi couldn't cut a lightning bolt in half. Even if he wanted to, even if he was fast enough, he couldn't. Lightning is like water: when it moves, it finds the easiest path. Instead of being cut in half, it would simply go through him or go around his hand. As for what I think this thread is originally about, I think Raikiri could probably redirect Kirin, but not cut it in half. By using Raikiri as a medium, he could allow Kirin to strike him, then allow it to charge through him and then he could redirect it. A similiar action would be in the anime Avatar, when fire users summon lightning. When you are hit by their lightning, you can redirect it by allowing it to charge through one arm and out the other.
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

    Quote Originally Posted by DrProof View Post
    Are we talking Naruto physics? Or real life..
    There is no "Naruto physics". Naruto elements are also based on Real life Elements. And the rest if pure logic.
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSyren View Post
    IMO, kakashi couldn't cut a lightning bolt in half. Even if he wanted to, even if he was fast enough, he couldn't. Lightning is like water: when it moves, it finds the easiest path. Instead of being cut in half, it would simply go through him or go around his hand. As for what I think this thread is originally about, I think Raikiri could probably redirect Kirin, but not cut it in half. By using Raikiri as a medium, he could allow Kirin to strike him, then allow it to charge through him and then he could redirect it. A similiar action would be in the anime Avatar, when fire users summon lightning. When you are hit by their lightning, you can redirect it by allowing it to charge through one arm and out the other.
    Lightning strikes at random.. It has no movement intentions, as it would need an animate brain in which it does not possess, because it isn't alive.. This thread is about extirpating lightning; however you can make your own thread discussing how Raikiri may be able to redirect the said jutsu.

    Quote Originally Posted by CommanderInChief View Post
    There is no "Naruto physics". Naruto elements are also based on Real life Elements. And the rest if pure logic.
    Tell everyone else that.
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

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    Lightning strikes at random.. It has no movement intentions, as it would need an animate brain in which it does not possess, because it isn't alive.. This thread is about extirpating lightning; however you can make your own thread discussing how Raikiri may be able to redirect the said jutsu.



    Tell everyone else that.
    I didn't mean to sound like I think lightning is alive. All I meant was that it goes the path of least resistance. Nice verbiage by the way, it's nice to see other people use Words that are above a ninth grade reading level. It's great to have you back Dr.Proof. -bows-
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

    Quote Originally Posted by TheSyren View Post
    I didn't mean to sound like I think lightning is alive. All I meant was that it goes the path of least resistance. Nice verbiage by the way, it's nice to see other people use Words that are above a ninth grade reading level. It's great to have you back Dr.Proof. -bows-
    I don't know much about lightning so you informing me of with the given information is rather generous, thank you.
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

    Good one u still got it DrProof
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

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    I don't know much about lightning so you informing me of with the given information is rather generous, thank you.
    I have this nagging feeling that you are mocking me DrProof. In any case, you're welcome.
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

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    Good one u still got it DrProof
    Thanks man, that's always nice to hear.


    Quote Originally Posted by TheSyren View Post
    I have this nagging feeling that you are mocking me DrProof. In any case, you're welcome.
    I guarantee you, I was not mocking your generosity.
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

    Don't think too hard about one jutsu...ur head will explode..lol
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

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    Don't think too hard about one jutsu...ur head will explode..lol
    Not likely.
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

    Quote Originally Posted by DrProof View Post
    The abstrusity in this post was consistent; however when exactly is lightning extirpating itself common?



    I couldn't agree more, I'm having a complicated time understand how this theory isn't plausible.
    you are absolutely right. How is it not plausable right? Its full of cannon proof
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

    Quote Originally Posted by NinjaKid114 View Post
    simple, here's what i think happened.

    Firstly, we see that Sasuke takes quite a bit of time to prepare the jutsu (after the fire balls produced the storm). Zetsu himself was able to immediately understand the exact mechanics behind Kirin. Now as we know, Zetsu isn't exactly praised for having vast intellect lol. Zetsu was observing both Sasuke and the storm in the same way that Itachi was. Now can we really say that Itachi didn't know what was coming? Absolutely not. If Zetsu could so easily deduce the workings of Kirin long before the Jutsu was actually used, there is no denying that Itachi was quite aware of exactly what was about to happen. Not only this, but consider the fact that he has the Sharingan as well. This means that not only was Itachi aware of precisely what was coming through intellect, but he was also aware through what he could perceive with his Sharingan. It doesn't help that Sasuke himself outright stated to Itachi that the jutsu's power source is real lighting from the heavens lol. Then there is the fact that a giant beast made of lighting emerges from the clouds lol.

    http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v43/c391/6.html
    http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v43/c391/7.html

    So it has been established that Itachi was totally aware of what Kirin was, and how the jutsu functions. Now let us address the feat of him blocking it. As we see, Itachi's body remains out of view to the readers for the last few panels he is shown in just before Kirin is used. The view is focused completely on his face. Also keep in mind that Itachi already had his MS activated long before Kirin was used.

    Before I explain why Itachi did not react to the lighting itself, I first want to explain what the term "Aim Dodging" is. This is a concept involving gunfire, where the target is basing his reaction on the shooter him/herself, as opposed to the actual bullet. When Aim Dodging, you are not dodging the bullet itself after it is fired. Rather, you are reacting to the aim of the gun and remaining out of the gun's direction. Another interpretation is when you are focusing on the shooter's trigger finger. You watch carefully for the very moment that the shooter's finger squeezes the trigger, and get out of the shooter's aim at the very second you see him squeeze the trigger. When doing this, you are actually dodging the gunfire a split-second before the actual bullet leaves the gun, hence you are not dodging the bullet by any means.

    This is what Itachi did. Now of course, he isn't "aim dodging" in the sense that he's getting out of Sasuke's aim or the jutsu's path. However, he is reacting to when Sasuke fires the jutsu, rather than the jutsu itself. As we know, Sasuke must use his Raiton chakra to take command of the lightning. It is after this point that he uses his hand to guide the jutsu directly onto his opponent. Meaning the jutsu is firing completely on Sasuke's cue. This is virtually akin to the concept of a shooter firing his gun. The bullet itself will not leave the gun until the trigger is pulled by the shooter. Comparatively, Kirin's lighting bolt will not descend onto the target until Sasuke throws his hand down, and guides it. Now keep in mind, Sasuke blatantly tells Itachi that all he needs to do is guide it right through his skull. At this point, Itachi now knows not only the jutsu's mechanics, but he also knows the cue of which Sasuke is going to use the execute the jutsu.

    The cue being this: http://www.mangahere.com/manga/naruto/v43/c391/8.html

    That being said, Itachi could have simply timed his Susanoo on the instant Sasuke threw his hand down, thus executing the jutsu. Once Sasuke throws down his hand, we see a closeup on Itachi's face being covered in the jutsu's light. If he timed his Susanoo for the instant that Sasuke threw down his hand, it is quite obvious that by the time we see Itachi bathed in light, he had already initiated his Susanoo.

    So considering these things, it is quite evident that Itachi was timing his Susanoo for when Sasuke threw down his hand to guide Kirin down on Itachi. As the Itachi supporters aptly put, Itachi is quite intelligent. Now barring in mind how fast real lightning is, do we all really believe that Itachi purposely waited until the instant after the lightning struck to defend against it? Remember that Itachi quite obviously knew exactly what was coming (unless someone wishes to argue that Zetsu is smarter than Itachi lol). So here we have a genius shinobi that is aware of the fact that he is about to get blasted by real lighting that strikes at possibly relativistic speeds. What are the chances that Itachi, knowing these things, decided to gamble his reaction speeds against lightning itself, whereas he could take the much safer approach and time his reaction on Sasuke's cue? This would ensure that he could have Susanoo up the instant before the lightning strikes and guarantee that he survives.
    Due to the logic you applied for Itachi, why can't Kakashi as well time his Raikiri commonly as you referred Itachi had done?
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    So, you have no argument? C'mon, you know Kirin is much stronger than a lightning bolt. Raikiri wouldn't affect Kirin due to the massive size and speed of Kirin creating enough force to blow up the top of a large mountain. It would blow away Raikiri and it's user.
    LOLOL Kirin is a lightning bolt, just in the shape of a dragon :L
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

    F**K Physics
    Why Did You Use Real Life Physics to Prove That Kirin Can Be Cut By Raikiri? :?
    It's So Lame

    Now You're Back
    So Here My Gift For Your Thread



    There Are Many Differences Between Real Life And Anime/Cartoon Physic
     
         
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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

    Quote Originally Posted by Blitz3d View Post
    LOLOL Kirin is a lightning bolt, just in the shape of a dragon :L
    Indeed.


    Quote Originally Posted by November Nolove View Post
    F**K Physics
    Why Did You Use Real Life Physics to Prove That Kirin Can Be Cut By Raikiri? :?
    It's So Lame

    Now You're Back
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    There Are Many Differences Between Real Life And Anime/Cartoon Physic
    Simply because.. Real life physics make it easier to come to a conclusion when making theories such as these.
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

    Nice...
     
         

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    Re: (DrProof) Raikiri's Extirpating Aptitude

    This is the worst thread i've readed since DrProof came to the base... Oh wait.
     
         

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