## Remodeling Konoha Town ##

[Scorps]

R E M O D E L I N G K O N O H A T O W N!

Ok, we decided that in a few weeks, perhaps a few months, depending on the work load and our own disposition towards it, Konoha Town section will be remodeled a bit. However, we want to hear your opinions and your suggestions on this subject.

One of the main issues right now is the overload of spam and senseless duplicate threads as well as a multitude of other rule breaking actions such as trolling, one word replies, multi post, insults and flaming, etc.

What we are expecting is a degree of help to what may be done to this section. We can't disclose what is on our minds but we do want to hear your suggestions for this section.

Thank you! ^^

[' ~ Dantee ~ ']

Sounds interesting. A suggestion I would like to propose is to somehow divide locations into sections. For example all the schools in one section, RPG games in one section, parks etc. etc. I think this will give the Town more space and less threads will bumped over.

[ReXii]

R E M O D E L I N G K O N O H A T O W N!

Ok, we decided that in a few weeks, perhaps a few months, depending on the work load and our own disposition towards it, Konoha Town section will be remodeled a bit. However, we want to hear your opinions and your suggestions on this subject.

One of the main issues right now is the overload of spam and senseless duplicate threads as well as a multitude of other rule breaking actions such as trolling, one word replies, multi post, insults and flaming, etc.

What we are expecting is a degree of help to what may be done to this section. We can't disclose what is on our minds but we do want to hear your suggestions for this section.

Thank you! ^^

Multi create a set number of threads, such as Konoha Town, Konoha Market, Konoha beach, Blah blah so on so forth, have a moderator specifically for these created threads and limit peoples posting, all posting must be done in a RP fashion with a set point, people get three warnings for spam, once all three are used up the member recieves a one week RP ban, give it a month like that and people will stop spamming, if they persist after the unban it will increase in length eventually becoming a lifetime RP ban.
How does that sound, feel free to comment criticise or add bits to it.
Just a rough idea off the top of my head.

[Yūsuke]

I would love to see the availability of tags for members to use for their threads in Konoha Town. This can be an alternative to suggestions regarding multiple sub-sections but any of which would be cool to have. Just giving my opinion even though I don't really roleplay in Konoha Town.

[Zero Kelvin]

I would like to seperate 'general RP' from RP related to the Ninja World. Most threads in the Ninja World are for battles, but if Konoha Town could be implemented into the official Naruto roleplay, there might be more people interested in doing general, dialogue-based roleplay.

[Alternative]

I would like to seperate 'general RP' from RP related to the Ninja World. Most threads in the Ninja World are for battles, but if Konoha Town could be implemented into the official Naruto roleplay, there might be more people interested in doing general, dialogue-based roleplay.

Couldn't agree with this more.

I'd also like to add that while having threads like Konoha beach, Konoha theme park, Konoha secret Yamanaka flower shop for drugs etc. is cool for real minute roleplay, I think it would be pretty cool for members who want to RP with a higher standard (Yukio Akizuki) to create their own RP stories, based around the Naruto. Not really retelling a part of the story, but different scenarios based in the Narutoverse, having OCs and so on. Just maybe have an approval system for a nice plot, and have a set amount of people play their parts. An example might be something like this:
- Orochimaru's experiments on humans have started to go haywire, he's become insane with the perfection of finding a new vessel for him to transfer into. You play a hostage of Orochimaru with the intent to escape the clutches of Otogakure and go back to your old village, telling them about your experiences.
It's a bad example I know, but something similar to that. A subsection could possibly be made for those who wish to do this sort of thing with other series (Pokemon, One Piece etc.)

[Negative Knight]

Make a sub-section for specific types of role play e.g. Death Note and etc. These shouldn't be able to make hottest threads, removing the problem for both the mods whilst allowing the DN players to continue as normal.

I've played quite a few DN games and noticed once a thread reaches a certain amount of replies it isn't viable to carry on using it as no-one is a aware that a new game has started.

[-Severus Snape-]

I would like to seperate 'general RP' from RP related to the Ninja World. Most threads in the Ninja World are for battles, but if Konoha Town could be implemented into the official Naruto roleplay, there might be more people interested in doing general, dialogue-based roleplay.

I agree with this one too, as far as I know, Konoha Town is still a part of the RP section but it looks like it turned into a spam area for people who don't RP. We could have two sections in the Town, one for the 'spammers' and maybe one that is a bit related to the RP.

In the forum description is says "General Naruto roleplay not involving battling or training can be done here." But all the threads I see in there are whateven RP threads people come up with (Death Note, Sword Arts)

[Sharingdork]

Couldn't agree with this more.

I'd also like to add that while having threads like Konoha beach, Konoha theme park, Konoha secret Yamanaka flower shop for drugs etc. is cool for real minute roleplay, I think it would be pretty cool for members who want to RP with a higher standard (Yukio Akizuki) to create their own RP stories, based around the Naruto. Not really retelling a part of the story, but different scenarios based in the Narutoverse, having OCs and so on. Just maybe have an approval system for a nice plot, and have a set amount of people play their parts. An example might be something like this:
- Orochimaru's experiments on humans have started to go haywire, he's become insane with the perfection of finding a new vessel for him to transfer into. You play a hostage of Orochimaru with the intent to escape the clutches of Otogakure and go back to your old village, telling them about your experiences.
It's a bad example I know, but something similar to that. A subsection could possibly be made for those who wish to do this sort of thing with other series (Pokemon, One Piece etc.)

I would make an origional post, if this didn't capture everything I want to see in our RP. Even if we don't turn the Konoha Town into a place for general role-play (as its description states), we should have a place for general, non-battle role-play... I also am in favor of the different anime/manga role-play suggestions.

[Cookie..]

I say make it in to a kind of a bigger town. Where people can travel to.

Like, I'm at the fish market, then I decide I'll take a walk to the park. and such like that.

But make it so that people must actually state that they are leave/entering. And that they can't be in multiple threads.

It creates more interaction. And maybe like a "Road to *" thread.

Example:

I leave from fish market to park = 4 Post (Distance)

Then in the road thread "Road to Park" I'll post that I just left the fish market. Then 4 more posts in the road thread, I can say I arrive at the "Park" thread.

And a universal time for all NB-RP. Like a NB Time.

[Gèckö]

rename it

[Zero Kelvin]

rename it

This
The name's misleading and kind of restricts it to, well, Konoha. 'General Narutobase Roleplay', 'General Roleplay' or something down that alley.

[Scorps]

How about "NB Town" ^^

[Drizzy]

Here are my suggestions.
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Rename: General Roleplay

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Remove Sub forums:
RPG Bios, Approved Bios and Declined Bios
Create a specific forum under the NarutoBase Roleplaying Section named "Biographies" to add the sub forums above.

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New Sub forums in the General Roleplay:

NB Town
This is where you find all the schools, parks, beaches, camps, personal homes, other buildings and places etc. This area is for free flowing regular roleplay in which situations and topics may vary. In this section, the village system doesn't exist (meaning, there are no villages, everyone is one)

Ninja World
In this section, there is an existing village system, however, this is for general village related role play. There are no actual battles in this section, so it's for use if there is no intention of battling. However, if situations change and there's a battle (for fun or other reasons), a different thread is created in the Battle Ninja World Section. So for example, I want to go to Konoha to meet an old friend. For each thread, a thread prefix is added which has the name of the village. Thread would be "[Konoha] Meeting an old friend". To post in this section, it is required that the member has a biography.

Unofficial Roleplay
This is where members may create or take part in unofficial roleplay, these are categorized in the sub forums of the Unofficial Roleplay: Group Rp (eg.Superhero/Supervillain RP), Situations RP (eg.Vampire RP, End of the World RP) and Anime/manga based RP (eg. OP RP, Bleach RP, FairyTail RP, SAO RP)

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Feature Addition

I suggest a clock is added for this section only which displays one time to everyone. This clock would be displayed in the section, and somewhere on each thread. (I'll search for a plugin and add it later) The purpose is to add a level of reality to this section, different people have different time zones, in a single thread we can have a member saying "shades from the bright sunlight" while at the same time another is saying "looks at the stars of the night" according to their time zones. This plugin would solve that problem, everyone could RP according to the general time.

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Rules
There will have to be some additional rules for each sub-forum to keep things in order and clean. I leave that up to you. ^^

Guidelines
Along with the rules, there will need to be guidelines as well as to how the forum/sub-forum works.

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If you want me to rephrase/explain something, or if you need assistance (if my ideas are to be implemented), you can contact me.

[Scorps]

I Like some concepts in there Drizzeh. It goes towards what i was thinking of. Specially the same time and such.

My main idea was to transform Konoha Town in a large, single "village" or RP community. You'd have the hospital, the bar, the tavern, the hyuuga grounds, the yamanaka ones, etc etc etc etc. Basically, a place where people could roleplay with their current bios without the fightning and using it all to connect with the training grounds and the battle arena.

I'm liking it dudes, liking it.

[Cookie..]

A simple rule is (Like I said). You can only be in 1 place at a time.

[Zero Kelvin]

I suggest a clock is added for this section only which displays one time to everyone. This clock would be displayed in the section, and somewhere on each thread. (I'll search for a plugin and add it later) The purpose is to add a level of reality to this section, different people have different time zones, in a single thread we can have a member saying "shades from the bright sunlight" while at the same time another is saying "looks at the stars of the night" according to their time zones. This plugin would solve that problem, everyone could RP according to the general time.

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A simple rule is (Like I said). You can only be in 1 place at a time.

I'm against both of these.

1. Roleplay takes time, and we all have different lives, duties and GMTs. As long as people make the time clear, there should be no problem. installing a -real-time' watch would also put pressure on those who want to want to RP some night-activity and those who want to finish their scenario before it gets dark, or light.

2. I'm against restricting a biogrpahy to a single place for much the same reason. Roleplay takes time and one's posts have to be pretty long and detailed when there's dialogue and interraction involved. You shouldn't rush it. Let people's biogrpahies be 2 or three places at once; that way they won't simply hurry from place to place, probably ruining roleplay in their wake.

A guy once told me that a good 'general rule' regarding RP is that every post has to be between 350 and 1000 words. Too much makes for bad reading, too little makes for bad reading. Balance is essential.

[-Yard-]

I'm liking most of what people have said. However, there is one thing that I think should be done. I have rp'ed here in konoha town for two years. I have over 3000 posts in my high school alone. None of which is actually spam. And in those two years I have never seen so much spam that's going on today. I see now that Konoha town really is turning into a more fun forum games section. And that just isn't right. The konoha town I started out in was people making friends by hanging out and being themselves for the most part. Scorps I'm sure you as well know what I mean as we and our friends used to rp here a lot. But now there's two types of RP here. One of which is the RP we used to do, and the other is created role play about making characters, putting them in situations, fighting dragons, having one member with 5 characters that talk to each other for an entire page and more. It's really ridiculous and I would like to see that RP and the RP that was the basis of RP we used to do in two separate sections. For those that weren't there in those days, it was more like Tavern RP that you have in your villages. You know, people hanging out, getting to know each other, playing around, all stuff that is completely different that the rp I am seeing now days. In my opinion, from the RP that I was in when starting here, you could RP with people, and know enough about them to make some actual friends, getting to know them that much. Because it was more like school in a way, a place where people go to and end up making friends there. That's why Konoha high school is really the most posted in thread in this section. I met Howard there for instance, this was back before I even started RP. And we've been best friends ever since. Now days, you're a vampire or a werewolf and don't even know the name of the person you're talking to. If it means anything, I'd like to be able to keep my high school thread, as I'm sure that a lot of threads will be deleted. Which yes, I am glad that the duplicate threads will be gone as well as the constant spamming of threads just for certain situations. Now, I'm not bashing the character RP, hell, most of us here that posted have biographies and battle in battle arena/ninja world so I can see how it's fun to have characters in certain situations etc. However there are those of us that like a relaxed rp some times, just "Hanging out" as I said before, while still being in a situation like a school or a beach. You don't have to be a blood thirsty vampire, or a woman pregnant to a vampire wolf baby (Yes I shit you not) to have fun. There is a line between those two RP's, and it has clashed several times to even arguments by people saying

Guy1: "You two can't post in this thread talking about the water because were talking about giving birth and you're not in this circle that's going on here."
Guy2: "Excuse me sir, I wasn't aware that I had to have been in a conversation from the castle to be able to post with my other friend in this beach thread."
Guy1: "This doesn't include you, so leave."
Guy2:


"Well you should put it in the thread that only people apart of that conversation could be here. And post it with quotes of the conversation that lead up to it."
Guy1: "Thank you sir, I will remember to do that next time and thank you for being kind and not arguing."

Another thing that concerned me about the change in the RP here, is that if it's seen to others as the basic RP, they will think you have to RP like that in order to post here which is wrong. It should be seen as a separate form of RP, even tho they are both correct to the definition of RP. However NB just has it's own style of RP, it's what dragged a lot of people to this section. It shouldn't be seen as wrong like it is to members that are just joining. Really, I've had members who have joined two months ago, pm me telling me I need to learn how to RP in this section. Yeah, maybe their form of RP, but Tavern style RP has always been there from the start. Which is why I do also agree that "NB Town" should be the new name.

I Like some concepts in there Drizzeh. It goes towards what i was thinking of. Specially the same time and such.

My main idea was to transform Konoha Town in a large, single "village" or RP community. You'd have the hospital, the bar, the tavern, the hyuuga grounds, the yamanaka ones, etc etc etc etc. Basically, a place where people could roleplay with their current bios without the fightning and using it all to connect with the training grounds and the battle arena.

I'm liking it dudes, liking it.

I think character biography rp should be it's own section. You shouldn't need a bio to rp here as it discourages people that are just joining nb to want to rp here. Not everyone wants to be in the battle rp scene, nor should they be forced to make a biography to post here. I like the simplicity of just being able to be yourself rather than be someone like kisame in a school thread. Just isn't that fun for this section. God forbid we have a group of sasuke bio's in the same thread (A joke). In a village yes that style of rp is good, but we already have the biography rp in ninja world. This section imo, doesn't deserve a huge overhaul that, that would give it. As it really get's rid of the simplicity that makes this section fun to post in. If someone wants to RP as a vampire, they can't make a biography for that. You shouldn't have to always be in character in this section. Just like a tavern. An RP community is great, a village however, just really falls too much into ninja world in my opinion. Why not just add on to ninja world and connect those sections? I'm seeing people post here with suggestions on this that don't actually post in konoha town. They have good ideas , and konoha town does deserve some changes, but I think it should keep it's simplicity, and some of the basics that are here currently. Just without all the spam and other nonesense. I'm just saying that, that's a big change that's going to make a lot of people that rp here daily religiously, pretty mad. While yes, it is an interesting idea, it should jut have it's own section instead of saying
"Alright, you have to stop RP'ing that way, create a biography, rp as that guy, you're not a werewolf demon anymore, you're a ninja." Really takes some fun out.

But we need people that Actually post here to give ideas. This section isn't part of the battle RP, nor do I think it should be connected to it.


Edit: I'll link this thread to people that RP here.

[Alternative]

A guy once told me that a good 'general rule' regarding RP is that every post has to be between 350 and 1000 words. Too much makes for bad reading, too little makes for bad reading. Balance is essential.

I heard something like this also, except it was more along the lines of adapting to the roleplay at hand which means more or less words, and something about too small means it's anorexic and too big makes it fat. xD

As for everything else, I agree with Yard partially, moreso about the part where the Konoha Town shouldn't really be so much connected to the main RP we partake in with battles and Ninja World. Apart from showing the anime/manga the forum is mostly known for it's RP. Maybe instead of making it so complex with people having to write x amount, have the main branch NB Town as you want for a name, and maybe just keep the main section for smaller 'tavern' RP as it was put. No pressure put onto the roleplayers, just make it a starting point for people who want to delve into the roleplay, our NB based one or differently.

I would personally with the approval of other people make this the main branch, and have two sub-forums for it: Naruto Roleplay and Other Roleplay. Naruto Roleplay wouldn't be like our NB RP, basically a scenario is present which would fit the Narutoverse, hence the name of the forums we visit everyday, and it would be standard roleplaying, with a Naruto-based scenario. Other Roleplay would be basically the same thing, but for other topics at hand: Pokemon, Fairy Tail etc.

I've always been a fan of having a normal roleplay section which wasn't this 'tavern' style or NB roleplay, but these were the only two styles which could really fit into our "style" of roleplay. I have no idea how it would work though since most people mightn't even be able to live up to what a "stronger" (for lack of a better word) roleplay should be like which in this case would be as Zero Kelvin mentioned. I've even tried making a roleplay like this, but didn't really work out due to people just not responding or anything. Anyway, I feel this might be a chance to revitalize a roleplay which can be stronger, and just a lot better to read.

But we need people that Actually post here to give ideas. This section isn't part of the battle RP, nor do I think it should be connected to it.

I understand where you're coming from, but just looking at a few of the threads it's all tavern-style RP as you referred it. I haven't really seen a thread where there's a roleplay that's not in this style.


Edit: There's one more thing I'd like to touch down on before I finish, what about all those threads which actually pertain to our battle RP? If someone wanted to make a more fun roleplay using the battle system but not actually battle, where would that go? And all these other things pertaining to general discussion about our battle RP (Best of threads etc.), clan applications, more OOC stuff.

[-Yard-]

I understand where you're coming from, but just looking at a few of the threads it's all tavern-style RP as you referred it. I haven't really seen a thread where there's a roleplay that's not in this style.

Thank you.

All the links below are just few of in character threads made.
http://www.narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=64980
http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=268448
http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=270187
http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=276087
http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=209775
http://www.narutobase.net/forums/sho...d.php?t=222425

Actually, I'd end up listing every thread on the konoha town front page besides my high school xD

links fixed.

[Howard]

I really didn't want to post here because I feel as though I won't even be listened to. None the less I'll post.

In my honest opinion, Konoha Town doesn't need a complete overhaul. It's not broken and it's been this way since the very beginning. I'm not saying there aren't problems because yes there are tons of problems but it's not broken and it doesn't require a complete change to the system. If you have a car and your spark plug is shot, you don't replace the entire engine you replace or fix the part that is making the engine run less efficiently. Right now what I see is spam. That's the problem you all have, repeat threads and threads with no point.

Lets hit this one first, Cookie mentioned the Death Note game. That isn't the same game ran by Gamahiro yearly around Christmas time. When he made threads and when people played there wasn't spam, it was organized and set out. There were no problems with it, the problem that it's causing now is there is no one competent in charge of it so what happens is multiple threads where the game is played are made and people simply spam that thread. I honestly see no point in what they're doing, they aren't doing it the right way and it's a horribly dull experience compared to how it was played and how Gamahiro ran it.

Another issue you guys keep bringing up. You want it to be connected and to connect to something. Konoha Town was never connected to the Ninja World rp and it was never connected to what was done in the villages. When the social group villages started to pop up it was used for that as it wasn't official to the Ninja World, nothing "official" is done in Konoha Town and it should stay that way.

Konoha Town is as Zero Kelvin put it the Goldshire of Narutobase. It's the beginning, when someone starts out they need a place to get used to something in WoW on the ally side this is Goldshire the first town you come to where you learn everything that starts you off. That's what Konoha Town was, it was the place where new rp'ers could learn to rp. They could rp as themselves which made it much easier to catch and grasp the concepts of rp. Not everyone wants to be a Ninja and not everyone wants a bio, to make Konoha Town a bio only area would ruin this entire process of learning to rp. Yes they'd be able to rp as a bio, but they wouldn't be able to do anything. They'd have to wait for training to learn and they'd have to train to gain skills. (Isn't that what Ninja World is for?)

The main thing that needs dealt with is the spam. That's the only problem I see and back to the car analogy you don't replace the motor to fix the spark plug.

[Priest]

add/create a Map of konha town so people can move according to the map. It makes it more fun not just poping out of nowhere.

[-Yard-]

I really didn't want to post here because I feel as though I won't even be listened to. None the less I'll post.

In my honest opinion, Konoha Town doesn't need a complete overhaul. It's not broken and it's been this way since the very beginning. I'm not saying there aren't problems because yes there are tons of problems but it's not broken and it doesn't require a complete change to the system. If you have a car and your spark plug is shot, you don't replace the entire engine you replace or fix the part that is making the engine run less efficiently. Right now what I see is spam. That's the problem you all have, repeat threads and threads with no point.

Lets hit this one first, Cookie mentioned the Death Note game. That isn't the same game ran by Gamahiro yearly around Christmas time. When he made threads and when people played there wasn't spam, it was organized and set out. There were no problems with it, the problem that it's causing now is there is no one competent in charge of it so what happens is multiple threads where the game is played are made and people simply spam that thread. I honestly see no point in what they're doing, they aren't doing it the right way and it's a horribly dull experience compared to how it was played and how Gamahiro ran it.

Another issue you guys keep bringing up. You want it to be connected and to connect to something. Konoha Town was never connected to the Ninja World rp and it was never connected to what was done in the villages. When the social group villages started to pop up it was used for that as it wasn't official to the Ninja World, nothing "official" is done in Konoha Town and it should stay that way.

Konoha Town is as Zero Kelvin put it the Goldshire of Narutobase. It's the beginning, when someone starts out they need a place to get used to something in WoW on the ally side this is Goldshire the first town you come to where you learn everything that starts you off. That's what Konoha Town was, it was the place where new rp'ers could learn to rp. They could rp as themselves which made it much easier to catch and grasp the concepts of rp. Not everyone wants to be a Ninja and not everyone wants a bio, to make Konoha Town a bio only area would ruin this entire process of learning to rp. Yes they'd be able to rp as a bio, but they wouldn't be able to do anything. They'd have to wait for training to learn and they'd have to train to gain skills. (Isn't that what Ninja World is for?)

The main thing that needs dealt with is the spam. That's the only problem I see and back to the car analogy you don't replace the motor to fix the spark plug.

*Claps*
I knew your post would be great because like me, we have spent a lot (Probably too much) time in this section RP'ing over the past two years. There are people here that RP here and really enjoy it. I agree on the Wow part as well. This section helps a lot of people learn the basics of RP. They shouldn't need to read a list of rules etc going through a long process in order to make a bio just to say "Hey guys". To experienced battle RP'ers, a section that expands the battle RP is great. But this is really a starting point for RP in general which is what makes this section great. So I agree 100% on everything you said.

add/create a Map of konha town so people can move according to the map. It makes it more fun not just poping out of nowhere.

There isn't a map in the world of imagination

[Howard]

add/create a Map of konha town so people can move according to the map. It makes it more fun not just poping out of nowhere.

I haven't seen you around Konoha Town at all, so how do you know that it's more fun to have a map then to just pop up somewhere? Take into mind that Ninja World and Konoha Town are two separate places. Ninja World is official, Konoha Town is not official.

[Alternative]

Thank you.

All the links below are just few of in character threads made.
http://www.narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=64980
http://www.narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=268448
http://www.narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=270187
http://www.narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=276087
http://www.narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=209775
http://www.narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=222425

Actually, I'd end up listing every thread on the konoha town front page besides my high school xD

Might want to fix your links.

The way I interpreted "tavern style" is just simple RP style, not in-character or out of character or whatever. Stuff like "licks someone's face with ability" is what I considered to be a simple "tavern style" not posting ooc stuff all the time.

Btw, licking people's faces is actually mentioned in one of those threads. xD