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      Why did Itachi think Naruto had a chance vs Sasuke?

      1. he didnt know about kyuubi chakra mode till after he died
      2. didnt know about FRS or SM AT ALL!
      3. didnt know how sasuke feels about him. naruto saying sasuke's like a brother could be (and is) a selfish delusion of naruto's to convince himself sasuke cares about him and what he does, for all itachi knows.

      itachi was grooming sasuke to be unstoppable (ie enough to at least take him down),and believed he would go nuts out of nowhere and desecrate itachis corpse for EMS hence KA plan. itachi stomped naruto in seconds then died against sasuke. so how exactly was naruto gonna do anything except fall like a heap of dry leaves before sasukes sword? he cant stop him by force. he cant stop him by words (itachi didnt know about nagato, gaara and narutos unique ability to turn villains good). he cant stop him. and if sasuke doesnt go nuts then all that was for nothing and a waste of itachis power and time, better served on nagato. a KA'd nagato would mean all crisis's are averted since sasuke cant beat him even if he does decided to avenge itachi. and a KA'd nagato is a thousand times better than a weak ass base naruto. a KA on ANY akatsuki is better. itachi putting his faith in naruto is pointless and was going to get him killed. especially since with auto amaterasu used up, sasukes gonna need some MS power and only way to get that is killing a friend. itachi essentially sent naruto to his own death and only obitos intervention stopped this.
       
           

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      Re: Why did Itachi think Naruto had a chance vs Sasuke?

      Stop the Itachi hate threads, it's getting annoying.
       
           

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      Re: Why did Itachi think Naruto had a chance vs Sasuke?

      You do have a point.. kind of O_o
       
           

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      Re: Why did Itachi think Naruto had a chance vs Sasuke?

      He didn't that's why he gave Naruto KA. So that when Sasuke implants his eyes he'll be under KA's control.
       
           

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      Re: Why did Itachi think Naruto had a chance vs Sasuke?

      not a hate thread. charatcer bashings banned. what in there was bashing itachis character?
       
           

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      Re: Why did Itachi think Naruto had a chance vs Sasuke?

      Quote Originally Posted by USSJ Future Trunks View Post
      1. he didnt know about kyuubi chakra mode till after he died
      2. didnt know about FRS or SM AT ALL!
      3. didnt know how sasuke feels about him. naruto saying sasuke's like a brother could be (and is) a selfish delusion of naruto's to convince himself sasuke cares about him and what he does, for all itachi knows.

      itachi was grooming sasuke to be unstoppable (ie enough to at least take him down),and believed he would go nuts out of nowhere and desecrate itachis corpse for EMS hence KA plan. itachi stomped naruto in seconds then died against sasuke. so how exactly was naruto gonna do anything except fall like a heap of dry leaves before sasukes sword? he cant stop him by force. he cant stop him by words (itachi didnt know about nagato, gaara and narutos unique ability to turn villains good). he cant stop him. and if sasuke doesnt go nuts then all that was for nothing and a waste of itachis power and time, better served on nagato. a KA'd nagato would mean all crisis's are averted since sasuke cant beat him even if he does decided to avenge itachi. and a KA'd nagato is a thousand times better than a weak ass base naruto. a KA on ANY akatsuki is better. itachi putting his faith in naruto is pointless and was going to get him killed. especially since with auto amaterasu used up, sasukes gonna need some MS power and only way to get that is killing a friend. itachi essentially sent naruto to his own death and only obitos intervention stopped this.

      Seems like some Naruto bashing
       
           

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      Re: Why did Itachi think Naruto had a chance vs Sasuke?

      Well, why did Minato think Naruto was the Child of Prophecy? Because Jiraiya said so?

      Why did Hashirama give out the biju? To balance out the power?

      Why did Tobirama solo the Uchiha? Because there was one Uchiha who rebelled against Konoha?

      Why did Hiruzen let Orochimaru live? Because he didn't have it in him?

      Even the Hokage have their faults. Although their faults always turn out into something good.
       
           

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      Re: Why did Itachi think Naruto had a chance vs Sasuke?

      because he was smart and read the title of the show

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      Re: Why did Itachi think Naruto had a chance vs Sasuke?

      He didn't that's why he gave Naruto KA. So that when Sasuke implants his eyes
      how did he know sasuke would do that? why? if obito was fried then theres no reason for any more power as the last on sasukes hit list is gone. unless sasuke has gone so insane that hed just keep wanting more. in which case itachi should KILL this brat before he starts any more sh*t. if he does get EMS then KA works. but if he doesnt and goes evil all the same (which is what happened) itachi has absolutely no method of stopping him. his belief sasuke would take EMS means he would also be evil at that point. but with obito dead to amaterasu or so itachi hoped, sasuke has gone nutso for no reason because of no one other than the grief of killing his bro. in which case why force him to kill him at all? why give this psycho the chance at more power? for what? once he saw sasuke didnt have ms and didnt NEED it ot beat him, itachi should have ran from him and killed himself miles away so sasuke COULDNT get it and thus KA wont be needed and neither will naruto since sasuke wouldnt have any reason to go and get MS/EMS and turn evil. unless itachi thought sasuke was going to be good no matter what in which case why activate KA plan? if hes going to get EMS and stay good then he has gotten brainwashed for no crime except LEAVING.
       
           

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      Re: Why did Itachi think Naruto had a chance vs Sasuke?

      Why did Tobirama solo the Uchiha? Because there was one Uchiha who rebelled against Konoha?
      tobirama gave them a position of law as a sign of good faith. its madara/ obito who made it look like he just wanted to control them
       
           

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      Re: Why did Itachi think Naruto had a chance vs Sasuke?

      Quote Originally Posted by Omnipotent View Post
      Well, why did Minato think Naruto was the Child of Prophecy? Because Jiraiya said so?

      Why did Hashirama give out the biju? To balance out the power?

      Why did Tobirama solo the Uchiha? Because there was one Uchiha who rebelled against Konoha?

      Why did Hiruzen let Orochimaru live? Because he didn't have it in him?

      Even the Hokage have their faults. Although their faults always turn out into something good.
      Said so much better than i would have
       
           

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      Re: Why did Itachi think Naruto had a chance vs Sasuke?

      Quote Originally Posted by USSJ Future Trunks View Post
      tobirama gave them a position of law as a sign of good faith. its madara/ obito who made it look like he just wanted to control them
      That's your assumption.
       
           

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      Re: Why did Itachi think Naruto had a chance vs Sasuke?

      Yeah, you have a point.
       
           

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      Re: Why did Itachi think Naruto had a chance vs Sasuke?

      Quote Originally Posted by USSJ Future Trunks View Post
      how did he know sasuke would do that? why? if obito was fried then theres no reason for any more power as the last on sasukes hit list is gone. unless sasuke has gone so insane that hed just keep wanting more. in which case itachi should KILL this brat before he starts any more sh*t. if he does get EMS then KA works. but if he doesnt and goes evil all the same (which is what happened) itachi has absolutely no method of stopping him. his belief sasuke would take EMS means he would also be evil at that point. but with obito dead to amaterasu or so itachi hoped, sasuke has gone nutso for no reason because of no one other than the grief of killing his bro. in which case why force him to kill him at all? why give this psycho the chance at more power? for what? once he saw sasuke didnt have ms and didnt NEED it ot beat him, itachi should have ran from him and killed himself miles away so sasuke COULDNT get it and thus KA wont be needed and neither will naruto since sasuke wouldnt have any reason to go and get MS/EMS and turn evil. unless itachi thought sasuke was going to be good no matter what in which case why activate KA plan? if hes going to get EMS and stay good then he has gotten brainwashed for no crime except LEAVING.


      Itachi already said he was taking a chance. He had a plan a and plan b, plan a was for him to die to Sasuke and implant amaterasu in him so in the off chance Tobi does meet Sasuke he'll get cooked than go to the village and become the hero. Plan b was if everything dosen't go according to plan a and if Sasuke still remains evil than put him KA he knew that Sasuke would take his eyes if he goes down that path because he knows from experience how much of a strain the MS puts on the user's body. That's why he told Naruto hopefully you wouldn't need to use this. Itachi was testing Sasuke's powers the whole time they were fighting he cant run away in the middle of a fight like your talking about.
       
           

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      Re: Why did Itachi think Naruto had a chance vs Sasuke?

      Naruto has a way of "making ppl believe in him" or whatever. Or Itachi just trusted that jutsu he put in him to change Sasuke
       
           

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      Itachi already said he was taking a chance. He had a plan a and plan b, plan a was for him to die to Sasuke and implant amaterasu in him so in the off chance Tobi does meet Sasuke he'll get cooked than go to the village and become the hero. Plan b was if everything dosen't go according to plan a and if Sasuke still remains evil than put him KA he knew that Sasuke would take his eyes if he goes down that path because he knows from experience how much of a strain the MS puts on the user's body. That's why he told Naruto hopefully you wouldn't need to use this. Itachi was testing Sasuke's powers the whole time they were fighting he cant run away in the middle of a fight like your talking about.
      lol no. if tobi gets cooked then sauske goes back only to be met like the traitor he is and executed for his crimes. if he is put in KA then the hyugas notice hes genjutsu'd and break him out only to have him turn on them. or he goes insane from the abuse that all the arrogant regular citizens will show him. or kill himself like sakumo.
      and EMS still puts a strain on you as shown in 574. and if he couldnt run from the fight why challenge sasuke at all? he did not KNOW sasuke would get EMS at all since im sure hes not the first since madara to try and obtain it.
       
           

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      Re: Why did Itachi think Naruto had a chance vs Sasuke?

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      lol no. if tobi gets cooked then sauske goes back only to be met like the traitor he is and executed for his crimes. if he is put in KA then the hyugas notice hes genjutsu'd and break him out only to have him turn on them. or he goes insane from the abuse that all the arrogant regular citizens will show him. or kill himself like sakumo.
      and EMS still puts a strain on you as shown in 574. and if he couldnt run from the fight why challenge sasuke at all? he did not KNOW sasuke would get EMS at all since im sure hes not the first since madara to try and obtain it.


      No he wouldn't, Itachi already knew from when he meet Naruto earlier on that Naruto and his friends were on there way to the battlefield meaning that they would have saw Itachi's corpse and since they knew Sasuke had been fighting him they would have known Sasuke killed him and would have reported it back to Tsunade and back than the only crime Sasuke had commited was betraying konoha which would easily be negated by the fact that he eliminated a s class akatsuki member criminal. So the villagers wouldn't have abused him like your talking about. Release KA the most powerful genjutsu in history? Are you trolling? Orochimaru couldn't even release Itachi's basic sharingan genjutsu who's stated by the databook to be a genjutsu master. No one in konoha or better yet narutoverse can release KA. He challenged Sasuke because he wanted to die so that he would be the hero of konoha. Why do you keep talking about this anyone when Itachi ALREADY admitted he made mistakes in his plan /thread.
       
           

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      Re: Why did Itachi think Naruto had a chance vs Sasuke?

      since they knew Sasuke had been fighting him they would have known Sasuke killed him
      no they would ASSUME that. but what actually happened is another story.
      would have reported it back to Tsunade and back than the only crime Sasuke had commited was betraying konoha which would easily be negated by the fact that he eliminated a s class akatsuki member criminal
      no it wouldnt. betraying konoha and joining its greatest enemy just for power is a crime worse than what many villains in the series did. not to mention impaling naruto twice with a chidori. for a village built on not selling out your comrades and protecting them, tsunade instantly forgiving sasuke would still mean no one else would. sasuke would live his life hated and ostracised as a scumbag traitor, by absolutely everyone and would still just do what he was doing before as a result. at worst, the elders overrule tsunade and execute this guy before he starts any more sh*t. at best sasuke gets off with a pardon and is bullied for the rest of his life.

      he eliminated a s class akatsuki member criminal.
      so if i robbed a bank and joined a mafia crime boss just for his martial arts training, but killed a serial killer 3 years later, i would be given a pardon for everything else? no. actually everyone would be disappointed we didnt take each other out.

      . Release KA the most powerful genjutsu in history?
      if they cant release it then they would have to kill him or rebanish him. a slave being forced to serve them when they know this guy would never willingly help, is no comrade at all.
      Orochimaru couldn't even release Itachi's basic sharingan genjutsu
      he was about to but itachi cut his arm off

      He challenged Sasuke because he wanted to die so that he would be the hero of konoha.
      no he wouldnt. he would be the hated traitorous scum that he is. oro was trying to take out akatsukis too but if oro killed an akatsuki or two do you think everyone would welcome HIM back with open arms? not everyone is as forgiving as naruto or as naive as itachi. itachi was about to condemn him to a life of ostracisement, or at worst, cut it far too short and get him killed for leaving in the first place.
      also itachi was no threat to konoha. sure it would be a good thing getting rid of one more akatsuki. but naruto took down kakuzu and he wasnt paraded through the fukin streets. he took down gaara, a real threat, and he was still looked down upon (and let me assure you its the same situation. no one saw sasuke take itachi out except sasuke. and only sasuke saw narutos victory over gaara).
       
           
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      Re: Why did Itachi think Naruto had a chance vs Sasuke?

      He hoped that Naruto could TNJ Sasuke out of doing so. If that failed:

      He implanted Kotoamatsukami in case Sasuke used the Mangekyō against Naruto and Konoha.

      He didn't actually believe Naruto as an individual could stop Sasuke with the Eternal Mangekyō.

      Especially a mastered Eternal Mangekyō.
       
           

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      Re: Why did Itachi think Naruto had a chance vs Sasuke?

      an unrealistic hope since he didnt know about narutos past history of beating sense into people.
       
           

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      Re: Why did Itachi think Naruto had a chance vs Sasuke?

      Because Itachi had what you don't have: The ability to look deeper than what our eyes are seeing, and to see the bigger picture about people.
       
           

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      Re: Why did Itachi think Naruto had a chance vs Sasuke?

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      an unrealistic hope since he didnt know about narutos past history of beating sense into people.
      Not necessarily.

      At the time, it was possible that Sasuke would remain unaware of the deception.

      As Itachi implanted a contigency in Sasuke himself hit Obito.

      Unfortunately, Sasuke looked away at the last second, and Amaterasu hit Obito's shoulder instead of his Kamui-eye.

      Without plot-protection, Obito would have lost most of his power with that one swoop.

      Hell, he might have died since he probably couldn't activate Izanagi/Kamui if his head were on fire.

      And not his shoulder...
       
           

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      Re: Why did Itachi think Naruto had a chance vs Sasuke?

      he set the km to respond to his eyes and he knew full well sasuke would implant his eyes in his quest for power, and attempt to destroy konoha. Also, knowing the bond naruto shares with sasuke gave him the idea that naruto would be one of the first to face off with sasuke when sasuke attempts to destroy the village, thereby controlling him with the koto amatsuki
       
           

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      Re: Why did Itachi think Naruto had a chance vs Sasuke?

      He tested Naruto's resolve. After Itachi accepted Naruto's reasoning, he gave him Shisui's eye that would put Sasuke under the Kotoamatsukami with the order to protect Konoha.
       
           

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      Re: Why did Itachi think Naruto had a chance vs Sasuke?

      Because all Naruto had to deal with in Itachi's mind was Sasuke's abilities with Three Tome. If Sasuke pulled out EMS, than the crow would activate. That's why after seeing Naruto's improvements he didn't think Naruto would need the crow anymore, since he thought Naruto could take EMS Sasuke.
       
           

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