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    Genjutsu that controlled the nine tails!

    I was just thinking whether it is possible for ordinary sharingan genjutsus to control the bijus because obito supposedly just used some genjutsu with his sharingan and controlled the kyubi. According to me, we haven't seen any other jutsu apart from kotoamatsukami that can control any other person. So, does that mean obito used ka on kyubi. But that should be impossible as shisui's both eyes were already acquired by some other shinobis.
    So, what do you think, what was the jutsu with which obito controlled kyubi.
     
         

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    Re: Genjutsu that controlled the nine tails!

    catnip-no jutsu.
     
         

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    Re: Genjutsu that controlled the nine tails!

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    catnip-no jutsu.
    You and your stupid answers!
     
         

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    Re: Genjutsu that controlled the nine tails!

    Madara could control the kyuubi, titachi said with MS only

    perhaps obito has special sharingan powers which we havent seen yet
     
         

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    Re: Genjutsu that controlled the nine tails!

    It would have to of been quite powerful, this along with that other thread about Jinchurikis are some pretty good morning thinkers. ^.^
    As for the original question... One could assume that because of his mastery over not only the sharingan but also the senju DNA, have any genjutsu he used a boost? But I'm not sure as to what jutsu he used, it might not of even been a genjutsu, as he had a seal on kurama to control him. And I've yet to see any other genjutsu use a seal like that one..
     
         

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    Re: Genjutsu that controlled the nine tails!

    Quote Originally Posted by you and your stupid ideas View Post
    catnip-no jutsu.
    Yeah except for the fact that Kurama is not a cat but a fox...

    Sorry for the double post.. >.<
     
         

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    Re: Genjutsu that controlled the nine tails!

    Quote Originally Posted by Decay View Post
    Madara could control the kyuubi, titachi said with MS only

    perhaps obito has special sharingan powers which we havent seen yet
    It is argued that he controlled yagura with ka. So, maybe he knows how to use Ka. But still, he needed to discard his sharingan that used izanagi. So, maybe after using ka, it would be useless for a few years. Or with hashi's cells, he maybe able to use ka on kyubi earlier.
     
         

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    Re: Genjutsu that controlled the nine tails!

    Quote Originally Posted by White Crow View Post
    It would have to of been quite powerful, this along with that other thread about Jinchurikis are some pretty good morning thinkers. ^.^
    As for the original question... One could assume that because of his mastery over not only the sharingan but also the senju DNA, have any genjutsu he used a boost? But I'm not sure as to what jutsu he used, it might not of even been a genjutsu, as he had a seal on kurama to control him. And I've yet to see any other genjutsu use a seal like that one..
    Exactly, he not only controlled the kyubi with ka but aalso summoned it later. Quite baffling.
     
         

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    Re: Genjutsu that controlled the nine tails!

    Quote Originally Posted by narutothetoadsage View Post
    It is argued that he controlled yagura with ka. So, maybe he knows how to use Ka. But still, he needed to discard his sharingan that used izanagi. So, maybe after using ka, it would be useless for a few years. Or with hashi's cells, he maybe able to use ka on kyubi earlier.
    i dont think its ka, its a power we have yet to see
     
         

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    Re: Genjutsu that controlled the nine tails!

    Is it OBito that really control the Kyubi? I thought it was Madara.
    Sorry for being so ignorant. I was so confused with those too on the earlier chapters of the 4th Shinobi Arc.
     
         

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    Re: Genjutsu that controlled the nine tails!

    I think normal sharingan is not capable of that
     
         

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    Re: Genjutsu that controlled the nine tails!

    Quote Originally Posted by Janin View Post
    Is it OBito that really control the Kyubi? I thought it was Madara.
    Sorry for being so ignorant. I was so confused with those too on the earlier chapters of the 4th Shinobi Arc.
    Yes, it was obito that controlled the kyubi at the time of 4th hokage.
    Madara controlled it during the hashi's time.
     
         

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    Re: Genjutsu that controlled the nine tails!

    Quote Originally Posted by zamki View Post
    I think normal sharingan is not capable of that
    Even the (one of the)most powerful mangekyo tech tsukuyomi can't do that. It must be something similar to Ka. And that too much powerful than the one which controlled danzo. But only Shisui has been known to use Ka, so this is tough to believe too.
     
         

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    Re: Genjutsu that controlled the nine tails!

    shisui"s eye which danzo possessed might have been used to control the kyuubi
    maybe because he still wanted to become the hokage by killing the fourth.
    and in that danzo might have helped obito.
    And maybe thats what is going to be revealed by the person who knows everything...............
     
         

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    Re: Genjutsu that controlled the nine tails!

    Koto Amatsukami takes a decade before it is able to be used again...

    but even if he would he can't because itachi had one eye and danzo had the other
     
         

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    Re: Genjutsu that controlled the nine tails!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dubbuoo View Post
    Koto Amatsukami takes a decade before it is able to be used again...

    but even if he would he can't because itachi had one eye and danzo had the other
    Yeah, but shinobi like Ao believe that obito controlled yagura using ka or a tech similar to it. But again, the quesn of reactivating it arises. So, as I earlier said, its baffling how the manga showed obito contolling and even summoning the kyubi.
     
         

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    Re: Genjutsu that controlled the nine tails!

    i think tailbeast have tons of chakra but their minds are weaker than human's so they easily caught in even normal genjutsu but in host body if they
    caught on genjutsu hosts can disturb thier chakra network to awake bijju's that why kurama said he is stronger than befor
     
         
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    Re: Genjutsu that controlled the nine tails!

    what obito used was normal sharingan he never used MS
     
         

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    Re: Genjutsu that controlled the nine tails!

    i think obito has so powerful ginjutsu but about what you say ,(obito controlled nine tails with sharingan)i think obito used ms as obito always use his kamui with just his sharingan
    but what about the ginjutsu which obito use to control yagura
    it was showed in manga that yagura was controlled with ka(beyakugan's user said that about danzu)

    then it was showed that obito is the one who controlled yagura

    so i think obito has KA in his ms
     
         
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    Re: Genjutsu that controlled the nine tails!

    Quote Originally Posted by Dubbuoo View Post
    Koto Amatsukami takes a decade before it is able to be used again...

    but even if he would he can't because itachi had one eye and danzo had the other
    But thats what i am saying that danzo had teamed up with obito back then
    "and obito too might have utilised his hatred against the 4th hokage" and succeeded
    but to his dissapointment 3rd hokage took back control over the village
     
         

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