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    Why I don't believe we'll go to Heaven when we die

    To explain why I believe there is no Afterlife, I will use a tale directly from the Bible itself: The resurrection of Lazarus.

    Lazarus was a holy man and a friend of Jesus. Now, when Lazarus died, even Jesus was in grief and was driven to tears. This caused Jesus to bring Lazarus back from the dead.

    But, think about this for a second. Lazarus was Jesus' friend. That means that Lazarus was holy enough to get into Heaven, right? But, since Heaven is the greatest place ever, why would Jesus remove him from there just to bring him back to Earth, just so he die a second time? Why would he do that to someone whom he cared so much about?

    Now, I understand that Jesus could have brought him back to ease his and others' grief. But Jesus isn't a selfish person, and this is a selfish act. Jesus also has shown that he does not use his power for personal benefit, such as when Satan tempted him.

    This is why I don't believe we go to Heaven when we die. Thoughts?

    Note: Please don't see things like Jesus and God and stuff doesn't exist. No one cares and this discussion is based on their existence. If you don't believe they exist, but still wanna discuss, then pretend they exist, pretend this is from an anime/manga.
     
         

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    Re: Why I don't believe we'll go to Heaven when we die

    Solid points
     
         

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    Re: Why I don't believe we'll go to Heaven when we die

    Did you read the Bible? Human was allowed to go to Heaven when Jesus sacrificed himself to save the world.He resurrected Lazarus because he was afraid that he is going straight to hell,Jesus didn't die at that time
     
         

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    Re: Why I don't believe we'll go to Heaven when we die

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of the Kings View Post
    Did you read the Bible? Human was allowed to go to Heaven when Jesus sacrificed himself to save the world.He resurrected Lazarus because he was afraid that he is going straight to hell,Jesus didn't die at that time
    This should have ended the thread.
     
         

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    Re: Why I don't believe we'll go to Heaven when we die

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of the Kings View Post
    Did you read the Bible? Human was allowed to go to Heaven when Jesus sacrificed himself to save the world.He resurrected Lazarus because he was afraid that he is going straight to hell,Jesus didn't die at that time
    He wasn't scared he would go to hell. He wanted to show his power by bringing lazarus back to life.
     
         

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    Re: Why I don't believe we'll go to Heaven when we die

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of the Kings View Post
    Did you read the Bible? Human was allowed to go to Heaven when Jesus sacrificed himself to save the world.He resurrected Lazarus because he was afraid that he is going straight to hell,Jesus didn't die at that time
    this before Jesus died on the cross no one went to heaven in the bible it says they go to paradise and and he comes back they will got to heaven with every body that has lived and believe in him will go to
     
         

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    Re: Why I don't believe we'll go to Heaven when we die

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of the Kings View Post
    Did you read the Bible? Human was allowed to go to Heaven when Jesus sacrificed himself to save the world.He resurrected Lazarus because he was afraid that he is going straight to hell,Jesus didn't die at that time
    This
     
         

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    Re: Why I don't believe we'll go to Heaven when we die

    'lazarus' is a word used in dutch to express 'being really drunk'

    lal.
     
         

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    Re: Why I don't believe we'll go to Heaven when we die

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of the Kings View Post
    Did you read the Bible? Human was allowed to go to Heaven when Jesus sacrificed himself to save the world.He resurrected Lazarus because he was afraid that he is going straight to hell,Jesus didn't die at that time
    Actually, I was taught that Jesus was sacrificed so that sin would be cleared out and we would be able to be resurrected after Armageddon.
    Quote Originally Posted by YowYan View Post
    'lazarus' is a word used in dutch to express 'being really drunk'

    lal.
    The awkward moment when Jesus' blood is symbolized by alcohol...
     
         

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    Re: Why I don't believe we'll go to Heaven when we die

    Quote Originally Posted by YowYan View Post
    'lazarus' is a word used in dutch to express 'being really drunk'

    lal.
    Nice
     
         

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    Re: Why I don't believe we'll go to Heaven when we die

    But many don't believe words in the Bible, Christianity isn't the only religion.
     
         

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    Re: Why I don't believe we'll go to Heaven when we die

    Quote Originally Posted by Kages View Post
    But many don't believe words in the Bible, Christianity isn't the only religion.
    I am one of them, the bible was translated many times and without a doubt there were things that couldn't be translated directly, so its open to say that some parts were written to turn things to suit human needs.

    Another reason why i don't believe in the bible is because its totally open to interpretation! Everyone that reads it will have a different idea of what happened!
     
         

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    Re: Why I don't believe we'll go to Heaven when we die

    Jesus was trying to make a point I think.
     
         

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    Re: Why I don't believe we'll go to Heaven when we die

    seems legit
     
         

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    Re: Why I don't believe we'll go to Heaven when we die

    thats your opinion.
     
         

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    Re: Why I don't believe we'll go to Heaven when we die

    That's why Jesus was crying he didn't want to bring Lazarus back from heaven
    You got the story wrong he also cried before resurrecting him
     
         

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    Re: Why I don't believe we'll go to Heaven when we die

    Christianity is not the only religion nor is it the best.
     
         

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    Re: Why I don't believe we'll go to Heaven when we die

    Quote Originally Posted by Hipster Madara View Post
    Christianity is not the only religion nor is it the best.
    Your opinion.
     
         

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    Re: Why I don't believe we'll go to Heaven when we die

    Quote Originally Posted by Youth and Full power View Post
    Your opinion.
    You're **

    Anyway, Chirstianity isn't the only religion. I am not a Christian, but I guess it was her opinion that it's not the best.
     
         

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    Re: Why I don't believe we'll go to Heaven when we die

    Quote Originally Posted by Kages View Post
    You're **

    Anyway, Chirstianity isn't the only religion. I am not a Christian, but I guess it was her opinion that it's not the best.
    Dude, it's "your".
     
         

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    Re: Why I don't believe we'll go to Heaven when we die

    Quote Originally Posted by Kages View Post
    You're **

    Anyway, Chirstianity isn't the only religion. I am not a Christian, but I guess it was her opinion that it's not the best.
    , "you are opinion."
     
         

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    Re: Why I don't believe we'll go to Heaven when we die

    Quote Originally Posted by Kages View Post
    You're **

    Anyway, Chirstianity isn't the only religion. I am not a Christian, but I guess it was her opinion that it's not the best.
    lmao fail
     
         

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    Re: Why I don't believe we'll go to Heaven when we die

    Quote Originally Posted by Kages View Post
    You're **

    Anyway, Chirstianity isn't the only religion. I am not a Christian, but I guess it was her opinion that it's not the best.
    Ehr... whut. It's your actually. You're is 'you are'. You are opinion. I doubt he's opinion.
     
         

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    Re: Why I don't believe we'll go to Heaven when we die

    Quote Originally Posted by Kages View Post
    You're **

    Anyway, Chirstianity isn't the only religion. I am not a Christian, but I guess it was her opinion that it's not the best.
    Your*
     
         

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    Re: Why I don't believe we'll go to Heaven when we die

    Quote Originally Posted by Youth and Full power View Post
    Your opinion.
    How can that be any other than fact? it's not the only religion, and whoever sees it as 'the best' is just delusional since every religion has the same message at the core. Translated with different tales, languages, symbolism and cultural dogma.
     
         

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