[Discussion] Why I don't believe we'll go to Heaven when we die

[rikerslade]

To explain why I believe there is no Afterlife, I will use a tale directly from the Bible itself: The resurrection of Lazarus.

Lazarus was a holy man and a friend of Jesus. Now, when Lazarus died, even Jesus was in grief and was driven to tears. This caused Jesus to bring Lazarus back from the dead.

But, think about this for a second. Lazarus was Jesus' friend. That means that Lazarus was holy enough to get into Heaven, right? But, since Heaven is the greatest place ever, why would Jesus remove him from there just to bring him back to Earth, just so he die a second time? Why would he do that to someone whom he cared so much about?

Now, I understand that Jesus could have brought him back to ease his and others' grief. But Jesus isn't a selfish person, and this is a selfish act. Jesus also has shown that he does not use his power for personal benefit, such as when Satan tempted him.

This is why I don't believe we go to Heaven when we die. Thoughts?

Note: Please don't see things like Jesus and God and stuff doesn't exist. No one cares and this discussion is based on their existence. If you don't believe they exist, but still wanna discuss, then pretend they exist, pretend this is from an anime/manga.

[BlkMagk]

Solid points

[Lord of the Kings]

Did you read the Bible? Human was allowed to go to Heaven when Jesus sacrificed himself to save the world.He resurrected Lazarus because he was afraid that he is going straight to hell,Jesus didn't die at that time

[YowYan]

'lazarus' is a word used in dutch to express 'being really drunk'

lal.

[Kages]

But many don't believe words in the Bible, Christianity isn't the only religion.

[Ausar]

Jesus was trying to make a point I think.

[9 tails uzumaki]

seems legit

[lXxNaGaToxXl]

thats your opinion.

[rikerslade]

Did you read the Bible? Human was allowed to go to Heaven when Jesus sacrificed himself to save the world.He resurrected Lazarus because he was afraid that he is going straight to hell,Jesus didn't die at that time

Actually, I was taught that Jesus was sacrificed so that sin would be cleared out and we would be able to be resurrected after Armageddon.

'lazarus' is a word used in dutch to express 'being really drunk'

lal.

The awkward moment when Jesus' blood is symbolized by alcohol...

[rollin]

That's why Jesus was crying he didn't want to bring Lazarus back from heaven
You got the story wrong he also cried before resurrecting him

[SoulKiller]

Sadly my freind there is heaven and based of what you did in your life if you did good and prayed for god then you will go to heaven but if you did bad in Real life sadly you will go to hell.

This^^

I beleive we were created and brought to this world for a reason and based on what we did on our life did we doo good or bad did we remember our god did we pray for him and based on what you did in your life you will go to heaven or to hell.

[violarocks9]

'lazarus' is a word used in dutch to express 'being really drunk'

lal.

Nice

[Hipster Madara]

Christianity is not the only religion nor is it the best.

[Lord of the Kings]

To explain why I believe there is no Afterlife, I will use a tale directly from the Bible itself: The resurrection of Lazarus.

Lazarus was a holy man and a friend of Jesus. Now, when Lazarus died, even Jesus was in grief and was driven to tears. This caused Jesus to bring Lazarus back from the dead.

But, think about this for a second. Lazarus was Jesus' friend. That means that Lazarus was holy enough to get into Heaven, right? But, since Heaven is the greatest place ever, why would Jesus remove him from there just to bring him back to Earth, just so he die a second time? Why would he do that to someone whom he cared so much about?

Now, I understand that Jesus could have brought him back to ease his and others' grief. But Jesus isn't a selfish person, and this is a selfish act. Jesus also has shown that he does not use his power for personal benefit, such as when Satan tempted him.

This is why I don't believe we go to Heaven when we die. Thoughts?

Note: Please don't see things like Jesus and God and stuff doesn't exist. No one cares and this discussion is based on their existence. If you don't believe they exist, but still wanna discuss, then pretend they exist, pretend this is from an anime/manga.

It seems you didn't go to Church or studied History

[rikerslade]

thats your opinion.

Based on Biblical facts.

Sadly my freind there is heaven and based of what you did in your life if you did good and prayed for god then you will go to heaven but if you did bad in Real life sadly you will go to hell.

And why would Jesus bring Lazarus from the excellence that is Heaven to Earth?

[rikerslade]

thats your opinion.

Based on Biblical facts.

Sadly my freind there is heaven and based of what you did in your life if you did good and prayed for god then you will go to heaven but if you did bad in Real life sadly you will go to hell.

And why would Jesus bring Lazarus from the excellence that is Heaven to Earth?

[SoulKiller]

Based on Biblical facts.



And why would Jesus bring Lazarus from the excellence that is Heaven to Earth?

Hmmm what's that is that the bible u talking about?

[Youth and Full power]

Christianity is not the only religion nor is it the best.

Your opinion.

[rikerslade]

Christianity is not the only religion nor is it the best.

Yeah, but this is to show my reasoning of why we don't go to Heaven, which is based on my Christian teachings.

It seems you didn't go to Church or studied History

Oh, yeah, I totally remembered when my History textbook spoke of Jesus...

And what I've included here is what I learned in Church, and the Bible itself.

[muutobirama3rdraikagemizu]

Jesus is half god half man


Man side wanted him back so he revived him my grandma knows this

[Kages]

Your opinion.

You're **

Anyway, Chirstianity isn't the only religion. I am not a Christian, but I guess it was her opinion that it's not the best.

[xXBlazinNinXx]

Hmmm I should read up on that never knew that.....and interesting point dude!

[kickassjutsu]

Jesus was human, felt human emotions and missed his dead friend. Jesus understood the purpose of his death, and that was to bring forgivness to every one. laz died before jesus so he completely missed out on being baptized in his name for the forgivness of all his sins. Even the holiest of holys were covered in sin before jesus died for them. you simply just don't understand the scriputres. A lot of knowledge of the bible comes to you when you spend time with God. or maybe you just over thunk it.

[rikerslade]

I am Muslim not Christian

I see. Well, my reasoning is a bit ignorant towards Muslim culture, sorry.

[SoulKiller]

Jesus is half god half man


Man side wanted him back so he revived him my grandma knows this

Wrong Jesus is not the son of god he was a messenger to let people know about god and teach them how to pray to god . And let them stop the sins etc. The god never have a son.