[Discussion] Why I don't believe we'll go to Heaven when we die

[narutokage99]

According to Islam, Jesus pbuh wasn't crucified and didn't die.His mission isn't finish he will come back to kill the dajjal and save humanity.

[Ƒālconer]

Christianity is not the only religion nor is it the best.

none are the best...

all of them suck major butt

[muutobirama3rdraikagemizu]

what?..

I am on my phone, but read guilty as sin post

[GenKiDama]

The whole bible has many flaws in logic in the story you could argue about genesis and Adam and eve even, however there's a contradiction with Jesus doing this, like you said, however he is also human and can make errors of judgment, being emotional could have overpowered logical reason. like the other stories in the bible it's probably fake, something humans can relate to as good, ie: bringing some1 from the dead. As humans can't understand or fathom heaven, it's easier to create something good they can understand.

[GenKiDama]

This is the thing I dislike about religious people. Why is it that you need to insist that what you believe is absolute and others are wrong? At least I had the decency to acknowledge that you may indeed be right and that what I believe may be wrong.

this. It's impossible right now to confirm the exist of god or any religion, there is no proof at all and if someone tells you that this must be so, it's a biast statement

[SilverSlick]

This is my take. A lot of people are Christians because they're afraid of death and want to get a reward for living life. That's it. Whether it be consciously or unconsciously. Lets be honest, barely any that I've met legitly follow the teachings of Jesus. Living in the south, I've seen some pitiful ****. The people at my school are total inconsiderate **** wads. A lot of them go to church. Probably 90% of them. Barely 10% actually act as what I'd imagine how followers of Jesus act. Most of them are probably "saved" or even baptized.

I feel that praying and asking for forgiveness defeats the whole purpose of Christianity. My opinion though.

EDIT: I feel my post is a tad bit off topic, my apologies.

[~WastelandSociety~]

Jesus was human, felt human emotions and missed his dead friend. Jesus understood the purpose of his death, and that was to bring forgivness to every one. laz died before jesus so he completely missed out on being baptized in his name for the forgivness of all his sins. Even the holiest of holys were covered in sin before jesus died for them. you simply just don't understand the scriputres. A lot of knowledge of the bible comes to you when you spend time with God. or maybe you just over thunk it.

^This,well said.

Death is the payment for sin. When one dies, all the sin he has committed is cleared. At the very least, this is what I have been taught. I can see that you have been taught differently, so a debate between us is futile at this point.

lol wut?

Your death isn't payment for sin. When you die,you get judge by what you did while living.

This is my take. A lot of people are Christians because they're afraid of death and want to get a reward for living life. That's it. Whether it be consciously or unconsciously. Lets be honest, barely any that I've met legitly follow the teachings of Jesus. Living in the south, I've seen some pitiful ****. The people at my school are total inconsiderate **** wads. A lot of them go to church. Probably 90% of them. Barely 10% actually act as what I'd imagine how followers of Jesus act. Most of them are probably "saved" or even baptized.

I feel that praying and asking for forgiveness defeats the whole purpose of Christianity. My opinion though.

EDIT: I feel my post is a tad bit off topic, my apologies.

I'm not afraid of death.
If anything if you believe in the afterlife,you won't be afraid of dying.

[SilverSlick]

^This,well said.



lol wut?

Your death isn't payment for sin. When you die,you get judge by what you did while living.





I'm not afraid of death.
If anything if you believe in the afterlife,you won't be afraid of dying.

, let me rephrase that. Not so much death itself but there not being a life after death. As a result, they become religious to fuel their hope and faith for an afterlife. Not trying generalize here.

[~WastelandSociety~]

, let me rephrase that. Not so much death itself but there not being a life after death. As a result, they become religious to fuel their hope and faith for an afterlife. Not trying generalize here.

Still stand on my point on not being afraid.
If there's nothing after death,then oh well.

[Kage Phoenix]

Part of me wants to bash you and part of me wants to say agrees on some few points, so I shall say nothing.

[LostAsuna]

Sadly my freind there is heaven and based of what you did in your life if you did good and prayed for god then you will go to heaven but if you did bad in Real life sadly you will go to hell.

1. Read what he said in the post.
2. You provide no more than 0% reasoning for this "fact". I could just as easily tell you "Sadly my friend there is unicronz and based of what you did in your life if you did and fed them all of your corn and chocolate chips then you will get to ride them after you die in a land of pretty girls and fast internet but if you did bad they send you to a scary place in the swamps where a repulsive, old, greasy, fat man that spends eternity covering your face in fried chicken, peanut butter, and creamy coleslaw and then proceeds to softly and gently lick and nibble it off.
3. Moral of the story - Yes, religion itself has never been completely disproven (even though many things in the religious texts that are supposedly the "word of god" have been shown to be ridiculously incorrect.) but you can't ASSUME it's correct just because it hasn't been. Plenty of scientific research has been proven, so why not ASSUME that everything modern research suggests is correct (I'm not saying this is true.)?

[Ƒālconer]

sounds weird but I thought about this over night and remembered that biblically heaven didn't exist until Jesus died and came back so your statement is invalid

[Kira Vs L]

I knew that you always hear me, but I said this for the benefit of the people standing here, that they may believe that you sent me.” (John 11:42 NIV)

He raised Lazarus from the dead so that Martha, Mary and all the other Jews that were there and loved Lazarus would truly believe that Jesus was sent from God and that nothing is impossible for him as long as you trust in Jesus.

[Androo]

Listen to videos of Richard Dawkins, christopher Hitchins & Matt dillahunty.

[Tybone]

The irony xD who knows Jesus could've had a uhh.. bad moment

Sadly my freind there is heaven and based of what you did in your life if you did good and prayed for god then you will go to heaven but if you did bad in Real life sadly you will go to hell.

Oh and you know that how? Have you ever been there, have you ever talked to someone who has been there?

[Kage Jake]

God abandoned us a long time ago. We dont even care for each other, we're a "failed creation".

[Lordlloyd7]

None of us knows what we will go after death. Has someone died before and come back to tell us? No so we do not know.

[MrSpoiler15]

god/jesus = fictional, just like Minato and Naruto.

[jonsnow1991]

If God exists, he controls where you go anyways, so why does it matter? I hate the cold, so I'd rather prefer hell myself. I'd be chillin on a nice beach with hot magma as water

[Lord of the Kings]

God is real guys,you never know how hell is bad.

[YowYan]

God is real guys,you never know how hell is bad.

*chuckles*

[jonsnow1991]

Sadly my freind there is heaven and based of what you did in your life if you did good and prayed for god then you will go to heaven but if you did bad in Real life sadly you will go to hell.

You're a bit crazy, aren't you?

[Svendson]

That is if you believe a person goes straight to heaven/hell after he/she dies.
I personally believe that when we die, it'll be almost as if we were "sleeping" being somewhat unconcious.
Then we will go to heaven or hell when Jesus has passed judgement on all of us - and he wont do that until he once again returns to us.
But that's just my opinion :-)

[rikerslade]

I thought this ended already.

[ruinairas]

Hell, screw the soul society.