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    Re: Naruto Manga 467 Discussion / 468 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyria View Post
    It's a shame. The Byakugan at the beginning of Part 1 seemed like it'd feature and play a role in the origins due to Kakashi's 'guess' but I suppose not. It originated from a user who had the Rinnegan and gave his Rinnegan eyes to the eldest son. The Juubi's chakra and eye powers would have mixed with the Rinnegan and diluted to one day become the Sharingan. So in a way, yes and no
    But i'm still saying otherwise as the sharingan has so much more power then the Bakaugan ... plus it seems to have 3 seperate levels and a wide range of eye techs that are quite simply put EPIC DEATH moves lol
    so to say it is diluttled from bakugan when it has imo more power and compareable to rinnegan in a way but i'd even argue sharingan seems to be the most battle advanced eye altho the pain arch was rushed so we couldn't see rinnegans full power we just got a taste of what he could do so rinnnegan then sharingan and then bakugan apart from seeing chakra bakugan is worthless as hell
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 467 Discussion / 468 Predictions

    If madara can only control the kyubi( not the other biju). Then it means that kyubi has a connection with sharingan ( from the juubi). So using my logic, i think that itachis gift triggers that connecttion of the kyubi and the juubi. And since the kyubi had a connection with the juubi's eyes, then naruto can withstand any techs done by sharingan.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 467 Discussion / 468 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by BigBen View Post
    But i'm still saying otherwise as the sharingan has so much more power then the Bakaugan ... plus it seems to have 3 seperate levels and a wide range of eye techs that are quite simply put EPIC DEATH moves lol
    so to say it is diluttled from bakugan when it has imo more power and compareable to rinnegan in a way but i'd even argue sharingan seems to be the most battle advanced eye altho the pain arch was rushed so we couldn't see rinnegans full power we just got a taste of what he could do so rinnnegan then sharingan and then bakugan apart from seeing chakra bakugan is worthless as hell
    yeah you are right. From what I saw, byakugan is not used with other techs other than byakugan techs. But sharingan is used to boost the power of other techs like chdori for example.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 467 Discussion / 468 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by rasenchidori View Post
    yeah you are right. From what I saw, byakugan is not used with other techs other than byakugan techs. But sharingan is used to boost the power of other techs like chdori for example.
    I doesn't boost chidori's power, I just allows the user to see any counter attacks when they charge at the enemy.
    When Kakashi used it without the sharingan, he got tunnel vision, unable to see what was going on around him almost got him killed.

    I would say it gets rid of the weaknesses of jutsu's rather than powers them up.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 467 Discussion / 468 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by SageD View Post
    Everyone that feels that will be caputred maybe right but I doubt it the reason is the 4th put the nine tails in so he would be able to defeat madara and like I posted a while back naruto will use the sagekyubi eyes to create a new jutsu.
    I think your absolutly right.... naruto will never be capture, and i think too he gona do a ultumate jutsu with sage+kyuuby mode :P. But i dont know if naruto want to fight again.... he dont want more pain and more revenge. but i think he gonna fight again :P cause he must do it for the world....
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 467 Discussion / 468 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by rasenchidori View Post
    If madara can only control the kyubi( not the other biju). Then it means that kyubi has a connection with sharingan ( from the juubi). So using my logic, i think that itachis gift triggers that connecttion of the kyubi and the juubi. And since the kyubi had a connection with the juubi's eyes, then naruto can withstand any techs done by sharingan.
    good thought i really liked ur thinking
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 467 Discussion / 468 Predictions

    i'm thinking that that all the bijus that were seperated by the sage have different powers that they only posses that powere can be anthing so i was thinking since madara can only contol the 9 tails from his sharingan, so doesn't it seems that the nine tail must have the power of the the 10 tails eye.

    just thought
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 467 Discussion / 468 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyria View Post
    Rikudou Sennin was a GOD. nuff said.

    The thing with the Byakugan is that the Juubi didn't show any traits concerning it. Nor has Madara at any time mentioned the Byakugan during his history lessons. One problem with Rinnegan coming from the Juubi theory is how did Nagato recieve it? He's shown no known affiliation to Senju or Uchicha bloodlines yet was able to randomly recieve this 'tool of heaven'.
    The sage of six paths was aready born with the rinnegan.It was because of that and his strong chakras that he was able to beat the jubi and become a god.As for why nagato had it im not sure but i remeber in one chapter jiraya saying that he thought nagato was the sages reincarnation.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 467 Discussion / 468 Predictions

    This Arc feels so over the top. But im willing to see what comes from going down this road.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 467 Discussion / 468 Predictions

    if u look closely at the byakugan u can see a ring in the eye, or is it just me, i'm thinking that there is a second lvl to byakugan and that neji is gonna develop that lvl.
    thoughts
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by heart2kill View Post
    3 is san , 6 is Shi, 7 is roku i think . took japanese in middle school
    you're right, thank you
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 467 Discussion / 468 Predictions

    how is madara gonna use the bijuus against the five kages?
    is he gonna control them or use the incomplete 10 tails?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 467 Discussion / 468 Predictions

    Allright, Multiple responses, no qoutes. Take what you want.

    Was mentioned somewhere in a history lesson that Byakugan and Sharingan have shared origins. Although at the time they said Byakugan was seen as superior so I doubt highly it was Madara who said it.

    We don't know if Kyubii is the only beast Madara can control, we know it is the only one he DID control. It's also the strongest. Maybe he can only control one at a time so he chose the strongest.

    The ring you see in the Byakugan is the pupil of the user. It is drawn in to show that the eye isn't solid white. Although I do agree there may be a second level. If the two are indeed related than it would make sense that they are both upgradeable.

    Rinnegan's true power is the users ability to use all elemental jutsu, not just one or two. We never saw pain use it to it's full potential because what he did do cost so much chakra he couldn't do anything else. One wonders if they had a sharingan/byakugan hybrid. See chakra with 360 degree vision and able to follow all movements.

    Sharingan doesn't make jutsu stronger, in the case of chidori, the sharingan see's through the opponents movements making sure the attack will be effective.

    Byakugan may become stronger we'll have to wait and see. Aint bad as it is. Could actually beat sharingan except for the Uchiha being able to see the attacks coming and duck out of the way, and 360 vision guarantees genjutsu success.

    I mentioned earlier I think Madara may be trying to use Orochimaru's body snatcher jutsu and Sasuke, but maybe he wants Sasuke to get his revenge for him. Currently he can't perform any jutsu, or so he says. If that's the case than he couldn't fuse the bijuu or merge with them unless someone performed the jutsu for him. I don't see Sasuke doing that. And the whole moon's eye plan could be a bunch of hockum based on the fact that Madara said that it's Naruto's and Sasuke's destiny to fight based on the bad blood between their clan's, but if this is the case than is it not also Madara's fate to fight Naruto? He seems to be trying to help Naruto to an extent though. Maybe he's relying on the fight with Sasuke to free the Kyubii, and if that's the case, he may have made all the rest up and his only true goal is to get the Kyubii back out in the open where he can control it.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 467 Discussion / 468 Predictions

    Maybe Kakashi heard stories of the Sharingan originating from another eye technique, and presumed this eye power was the Byakugan?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 467 Discussion / 468 Predictions

    It's possible it was Kakashi, I don't look things up, but I could've sworn it was presented as fact. Ah, well. Would kinda make sense for all three eye techs to be related. Also would be cool if they combine a sharingan with the byakugan, similarr to combining to ms to get ems. 360 degree ms.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 467 Discussion / 468 Predictions

    ok i cant remember when this was said but i remember hearing that the rinnengan wasnt a bloodline it was only seen when the ninja world was unbalanced or something and it would either bring peace or destroy the ninja world.
    feel free to comment lol
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 467 Discussion / 468 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Dabz View Post
    ok i cant remember when this was said but i remember hearing that the rinnengan wasnt a bloodline it was only seen when the ninja world was unbalanced or something and it would either bring peace or destroy the ninja world.
    feel free to comment lol
    Well, originaly it appeared out of nowhere and created the world of shinobi. The part of the story you're referring to, however, is the part where the talked about a myth that the rinnegan would return to bring balance to the world of shinobi. Even in the story it is referred to as a myth. Now Madara is saying that the original sage of 6 paths, the first rinnegan had two sons, one was the first senju and had his amazing chakra, strength of body, and strength of heart. The other, had a form of his eyes (Sharingan according to Madara) his intelect, and strength of pride. Another character, possibly Kakashi, which is what we were talking about, said that Byakugan and Sharingan are related as well.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga 467 Discussion / 468 Predictions

    this whole thing with the "moon eye" plan got me thinking...if what madara is saying is true, that he needs the power of all tailed beasts to fuse back together, and release the 10 tails, that would mean the 9 tails would have to be extracted from Naruto...and I dont see that happening because the kyuubi has been with naruto from the start of the manga...not only that, but the 4th said that someone would need special powers to beat madara...and if the 9 tails isnt extracted, then the 10 tails cant be released...

    the only thing i can think of, is madara some how got his hands on the yang chakara the 4th sealed away and is gonna use that to summon the 10 tails, that way, naruto gets to keep the kyuubis powers and the 10 tails can be released, assuming he only needs half the chakra from kyuubi...and i dont see this happening either...

    so basically, either the kyuubi is taken out of naruto and naruto has to rely on his own strength to beat madara...or naruto keeps kyuubi and there is no 10 tails or moons eye plan.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 467 Discussion / 468 Predictions

    This was an OMG chapter!!! The new ninja war... Can madara pull it trough? And the Jubi... It's tottaly insane!!! I am siply shocked...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga 467 Discussion / 468 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Uzumaki Chuck Norris View Post
    this whole thing with the "moon eye" plan got me thinking...if what madara is saying is true, that he needs the power of all tailed beasts to fuse back together, and release the 10 tails, that would mean the 9 tails would have to be extracted from Naruto...and I dont see that happening because the kyuubi has been with naruto from the start of the manga...not only that, but the 4th said that someone would need special powers to beat madara...and if the 9 tails isnt extracted, then the 10 tails cant be released...

    the only thing i can think of, is madara some how got his hands on the yang chakara the 4th sealed away and is gonna use that to summon the 10 tails, that way, naruto gets to keep the kyuubis powers and the 10 tails can be released, assuming he only needs half the chakra from kyuubi...and i dont see this happening either...

    so basically, either the kyuubi is taken out of naruto and naruto has to rely on his own strength to beat madara...or naruto keeps kyuubi and there is no 10 tails or moons eye plan.
    I will say what i said earlier as it seems to be the most accurate prediction made b4 madara confrimed everything i said minus the moon's eye plan it will go like this
    Madara needed nagato to revive him as i believe this tech requires a sacrifice so he need sasuke to be his "pawn" to hook him up to gedo ... that way sasuke is killied given madara his completeness however this plan will not go full swing it will mess up and he will not get the 10 tailed beast he will however get 1-8 and fuse with them ... leaveing naruto and the 9 tails be cause if he takes narutos beast he will die and i'm sure kishi will have a "back to life jutsu" it has been repeated garra and then nagato anyways
    after madara gets the 1-8 tailed beasts he will try and conqure the world but he will be met by eathir sas+naruto OR sas's dying wish will give naruto his eyes thus making naruto become complete like his last chance to make a mends with everyone and thus his sacfirice will honor itachi and make sasuke a hero...
    BUT KISHI I BEG YOU ! ! ! give naruto some new shit please everyone is balling with like 3 4 5 jutsu and naruto still has 2 ... come on lol
    but thats what i think will happen it won't go perfectly to plan so he is going to say F- it all and do it with what he has sasuke is needed to hook up to gedo as a sacrifical peice so eathir possibilty naruto will get there just as sasuke is dying and says he is sorry for what he has done and he needs to take his eyes in order to become complete So6P reincarnated but of corse he could do it anyways and just take itachi's lol OR sasuke will already be dead putting naruto in a kyubii sage pwns all state with only one directive bring madara down hard lol
    sorry for the long post let me know what ya think
    Thanks for reading the whole thing
     
         

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