Re: Naruto Manga 467 Discussion / 468 Predictions

**kydo** · 10-09-2009, 03:54 AM

Everyone was expecting a month of reading about the moons eye plan but kishi summed it up in one chapter.I hated this chapter cuz madara's plan is stupid and the 4th ninja war is gonna be lame, it wont be what i expected of nations vs nations, shinobi vs shinobi, instead its gonna be many shinobi being slaughtered while naruto and killerbee try to kill madara and the other 7 beasts so if we rule out the usesless normal shinobi , its gonna basicaly be 2(naruto & killerbee) vs 8(1:7 tails+madara+sasuke is a posible 9th player).The only good thing is sasuke will play probly the most important role as the only other living person who can control the biju and u should all kno sasuke isnt madara's b!tch yet', hes not after world domination hes after revenge so the fututre might depend on wether sasuke decides to use madara's help to get his revenge against konoha or not and he has thus far prefer to do things with his own power so well see if he sides with madara or the world in the coming chapters altho last time i checked sasuke was kinda like ftw(f#ck the world) so well c what kishi has planed, maybe an epic brf(best rival forever) team up who knows.

**kurd4life** · 10-09-2009, 05:11 AM

Originally Posted by real kyuubi jinchuuriki

THE JUUBI...THIS WAS QUITE UNEXPECTING...no one's predictions EVER came close to something like this...MADARA is truly a genious...from the very beginning he has been working in the shadows plotting and just watching evrything fall into place...naruto is meddling though..i wonder if he can really stop him????

i predicted few chapters back that madara would put the sharingan in the moon for a ultimate genjutsu... but everyone was sayin thats too much or w.e but definitly juubi unexpected

**Dextral** · 10-09-2009, 05:33 AM

Hmmm.... So what happens to the genjutsu during the day. And if people aren't affected by the genjutsu or hidden from the moon...

**Valkyria** · 10-09-2009, 05:39 AM

Originally Posted by Dextral

Hmmm.... So what happens to the genjutsu during the day. And if people aren't affected by the genjutsu or hidden from the moon...

Blind people and Cavemen would be the Narutoverse only hope then

I do enjoy whenever Madara gives his history lessons. Loved it when he casually felt like sitting down even though in front of him, a room full of powerful ninjas would have gladly liked to crush him. I think Madara should just a history book of ninjas. Would rival Jiraiya's series.

**Avengeroftheuchia** · 10-09-2009, 05:57 AM

Originally Posted by real kyuubi jinchuuriki

Well i would say now that its WAR...the only 2 jinchuuriki left will b relied on...i think killer bee having reached perfection as a jinchuuriki will have to train naruto in controlling jyuubi's chakra or they won't stand a chance...

Yeah but 1st off Naruto wouldn't get any time considering if the rumors i keep hearing about are true he will become the 6th hokage so he will not get much time to train i don't think we will hear much more from bee but a little probably also my wild guess at what will happen at the end of the whole storyline is Sasuke will kill Madra after Madra obtains bee's 8 tails and Sasuke will tell Naruto he forgives the leaf and that he "believes" in him too, and he will say he hopes there will be a day "free of the cursed worlds wars" and blah blah blah and he will die and Naruto will become so angry from losing Sasuke the seal will break and and Naruto will have to fight 10 tails and he will defeat the 10 tails (so it will seem) with some kinda rasengan but 10 tails won't be done and he will seal the 10 tails inside of him and die and as he dies he sees Jariya, Pain, Sasuke, Itachi, and the Third hokage and he will talk with Jariya bout how he tried to make his dream a reality (cause he feels like he failed and he's like basically crying) and to Itachi about how sorry he is for all that he said "I'm more of a better bro than you etc" and to Pain as well about how he had failed him and how Pain says back to him no you didn't I still believe in you naruto and Jariya will say it too and Itachi and Sasuke and the 3rd and then a 6th person will apear and it will be the origanal owner of rinengan and they will all say they believe in him and then his parents will appear and tell him they love him and they believe in him too and give him life again and naruto will wake up to sakura checkin on him and dey will kiss (ewww grosss!!!

and Naruto will realize 10 tails is still free and defeat him with rasengan 4 good dis time etc etc. The End

**Avengeroftheuchia** · 10-09-2009, 06:02 AM

loved 467 by da way does any1 no wen 468 comes out?

**Avengeroftheuchia** · 10-09-2009, 06:03 AM

I had no guess as 2 wat Madra was planin until 467 but i saw 10 tails commin all the way

**EternalUchihaSasuke** · 10-09-2009, 07:05 AM

i dont think anyone can stop madara, bottom line. hes just to powerful. im thinking sharing vs sharing and even naruto and sasuke teaming up but wow..

valkyria, you're sig is cool

**jigenz** · 10-09-2009, 07:11 AM

so pein didn't know anything about rennigan?or his ancestors?

**Kushina Uzuma** · 10-09-2009, 07:28 AM

I've come up with the idea that Naruto instead of Madara will get all the Beasts and he'll be to decide what to do with them...

**EternalUchihaSasuke** · 10-09-2009, 07:33 AM

if naruto and killerbee train together they might get strong enough to battle madara. um but with sasuke with madara i dont know, it just seems they both have a too much power...

**CasualMisfit** · 10-09-2009, 07:36 AM

OKI OKI WOW!!! epic manga is epic... NOW! NOW I know why Akatsuki (Red Moon) is called Red Moon!... a sharingan moon would obviously be red... so he had this plan from the start for sure...

I dont know... you guys should look into japanese folklore... naruto and sasuke WILL team up together against Madara... Kishi planted a HUGE hint about this in one cover art of naruto and sasuke...

I wont spoil it... go read the story behind these gods... It supplements a very nice hint... or possibly misdirection

[EDIT]... altho it could be suggesting an outcome in which the battle against these two will decide the fate of everything else... as madara said... they are fated to do battle!

and why is the first pic so damn huge...

[EDIT]... fixed :P

**EternalUchihaSasuke** · 10-09-2009, 07:44 AM

madara declared war, its all there is too it. all the villages better learn to fight together or die. sakura naruto nonsense, please.... whatever, naruto needs to get with hinata and train them a super geniues beastly kid. ;/

**Konoha Rokudaime** · 10-09-2009, 07:54 AM

I just recollect Kishi Interview : "Akatsuki with their tailed beasts attack Konoha". And we are going to see Genma in action.

Madara is something like dark lord in the lord of the rings. So, i say without tailed beasts he is powerless.

**CasualMisfit** · 10-09-2009, 07:54 AM

Originally Posted by EternalUchihaSasuke

madara declared war, its all there is too it. all the villages better learn to fight together or die...

u saying that makes me wonder if madara is also trying to unite the world this way... a common enemy... meh! all tho afterwards it could all fall apart again... so maybe not!

[EDIT]... I wonder if the moon thing has anything to do with garaa being extra violent on full moons o_O

**Ryuusaki** · 10-09-2009, 08:21 AM

Little cheesed up, but ****ing awesome nevertheless.

I'm dying with excitement for the upcoming ones... 4th ****ing world war, that's too epic!

**ToadSageJiraiya** · 10-09-2009, 09:39 AM

1st time in months that a chapter was worth responding to this was one of the best chapters and answered 2 questions answered who madara was and what his plan was with saskue and with the moom eye plan so i quess the wit was worth it

**wa7ed_56eer** · 10-09-2009, 10:13 AM

So basically the 10 tails posses all power that was given to the ninja worl(the tailed beasts,all the kekia genkie=sharingan+byaukugan+Reniningan...etc) So when he is summoned i think all the clans with powers passed down to them by th S06p will be taken from them or something rlike that it was said that So6p was the producer of ningutsu or something like that im not sure so i can see the only person who can take on the 10 tailed beast is going to be naruto.
And by the way people are making a fuse about Madara, Madara aint the real villian he is a sidekick that goes evil unleashes the ultimate power and dies because of that power.
So im tryin to say is its going to be NarutoVs10 tailed beast THE END.

**Konoha Rokudaime** · 10-09-2009, 10:23 AM

Why does everyone thinks Naruto will go to Kage meeting? He do not have any purpose to go there. If he had known Sasuke was there, no one will stop him. But that's not the case. The reason why he left konoha was to meet Raikage and beg for Sasuke. So if not Naruto wanted to beg again for Sasuke, then Naruto has no reason to go to Iron Country.

**Siberia** · 10-09-2009, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by JakeFreak

Now that's what we call "HISTORY"

Nice episode. I just can't wait for the next weeks to come. There would be an exciting episodes to come! Madara is Genius,massive,creative like hell! Thumbs up!

you mean kishi is genius, massive, creative like hell!:D

**madaraloser** · 10-09-2009, 11:12 AM

Hmm..interesting all this chapter has shown is that Madara will definetly not succeed in his plan.

Its amazing that he actually went and revealed his plan to all the leaders..if you think about he asked them for their help basically!

Now the likelihood that Danzou is somehow related to Madara is almost certain. Danzou has been involved everywhere Madara has.

For instance how did Madara know about Nagato? Only Jiraiya knew about that, and I doubt he would shared that information with anyone else. The only other person who would know is Danzou, (when they killed Yahiko).

For Madara's plan, why was the elimination of the Uchiha clan necessary? Danzou ordered it apparently.

The only other person who had some idea was the 4th Hokage. Now if Madara can live for so long..then there is every possibility that the 4th Hokage will come back too..

In essence, Madara has lost thats the msg from this chapter.

Unless its another load of BS from Madara (so far all his stories have been conflicting).

**~~rajin~~** · 10-09-2009, 11:31 AM

1. Madara goes into his dimension and talks with sasuke, telling him a few secrets he didn't mention to the kages.

2. While unlocking SG, MS, and rinnegan can allow you to read more and more of the uchiha stone tablet, the EMS can see a final hidden message.

3. We find out that madara didn't steal his brothers eyes like we think. Instead they both chose to switched. The younger brother didn't get EMS, instead unlocking rinnegan. After seeing the rinnegan allowed his brother to learn any elemental attack, he killed him and took his left eye for himself. He keeps it covered so no one will know.

4. Madara thinks sasuke's 6-point star design is just his MS. We find out it's really something way different. I've been thinking about this for a while now. When Itachi gave sasuke his MS tech, he did a lot more than just that. I think he actually altered his DNA to give him his abilities. These abilities lay dormant until triggered by certain events.We see that when sasuke used Amaterasu on madara his eye formed a replica of itachi's MS. That's 1 example. Itachi wanted madara to think Amaterasu was his plan to kill him, but in reality he knew it wouldn't work and wanted madara to recruit sasuke. He already knew all of madara's secrets (^referring to idea #3). Sasuke's activation of his MS, was a 2nd trigger. What happen was itachi's jutsu tricked sasuke's body into thinking the eye transfer had taken place. It was supposed to result in the EMS. If that's the case then we would see itachi's pattern over whatever sasuke's looked like, which we don't. That's because sasuke had the dormant rinnegan ability in his DNA, which also activated. It then integrated with sasuke's EMS forming a whole new eye tech.

Here's a scientific way to look at it. Human DNA is made of 46 chromosomes. Kekkei Genkai are mutated genes found in these chromosomes. Lets assume all the uchiha clan has the SG/MS ability, but most people will either have the EMS or rinnegan trait which is made from 2 different genes. Madara was born with the EMS trait. Izuna had the Rinnegan trait. So when madara and izuna switched they each unlocked different abilities. Madara just stole his brothers eye afterwards giving him one of each. When sasuke unlocked his MS, itachi's justsu activated his dormant DNA attempting to artificially create the EMS or rinnegan (whichever sasuke had), However an error occurred during the process, causing the EMS abilities to be inserted into the rinnegan chromosome, resulting in a completely new mutation with unforeseen powers.

Insertion (genetics) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

**mynd3** · 10-09-2009, 11:35 AM

It sure was great chapter, even no fighting, i liked it very much

**~~rajin~~** · 10-09-2009, 11:37 AM

by the special one ,utp

Another Specialist Prediction

-The 4th Shinobi War’s intro

(Madara nonchalantly declares war on The Kages. Everyone gets on their guard.)

“Another one, so much for the age of disarmament and preserving the lands,” said Tsuchikage. “If only you foolz listened to me in the first place and kept on building up for this. Uchiha Madara! You’re on,” yelled Raikage. (Raikage then grins.) “The boss isn’t at all fazed by this,” said Darui. “That’s right, the boss had already sent a search and rescue team to keep watch over Akatuski’s headquarters, from communications, we can strike there at anytime,” thought Shii.

“Raikage, I’m aware that you attacked our base! I’m no fool. Either way, both this spot and that spot will become hot spots,” said Madara. “He plans to attack the land of Iron,” yelled Mifune. “See ya,” said Madara. (A portal opens up and he flips right into it.) “Damn it, he’s gone,” said Raikage. “SIR,” yelled Shii. “What is it,” asked Raikage. “Konoha ninja we came into contact with, we’ll contact them and let them know what’s up,” said Shii. “Shouldn’t be too far, Shii can probably locate their chakra source,” said Darui.

“Konoha nin,” questioned Kankuro. “Gaara, are you thinking what I think you’re thinking,” asked Temari.

“Raikage, by any chance was there a young man my age with blond hair,” asked Gaara. “Yeah, that brat, sum friend of yours,” asked Raikage. “He’s Uzumaki Naruto, one of the hosts Madara was talking about,” said Gaara. “WHAT,” yelled Raikage. “At the very least, we village leaders can all protect him from Akatuski,” said Mifune. “And if push comes to shove, we’ll combine with his power,” said Mizukage.

“Sounds like a plan,” said Tsuchikage. “This is your time kid… Think of what you must do,” thought Raikage. (The scene switches to inside the space-time world Sasuke and Karin are in. Sasuke stops
sucking on Karin’s arm while she blushes, falls out and convulses uncontrollably until Sasuke speaks and startles her causing her to straighten up quickly.)

“So, you’re telling me Madara saved me,” said Sasuke. “Yeah, and the other two Kages barged in. It was a close one,” said Karin. “Shit, saved by that goon again,” said Sasuke. (Soon a portal opens up and Madara appears.)

“You seem to have recovered nicely, good work Karin,” said Madara. “Well it was nothing his chakra was just low, he was only really damaged on his arm,” smiled Karin (Though she sweats heavily). “Can’t say I don’t owe you, but get me out of here immediately, I have a score to settle with Danzou,” said Sasuke. “No, new task,” said Madara. “Excuse me? I’m living my own life! Get out of my way and let me through,” yelled Sasuke. “I promise you,Danzou’s head if you do this one favor for me,” said Madara.

“I’m fed up with running errands, tell me where Danzou is,” said Sasuke. “You owe me! You failed with the Hachibi, and like you said, you can’t say you don’t owe me. Just do this one thing for me, the final thing, and I promise I will never step in the way of your path again. You want Konoha’s destruction as well as the Elders’ death, but the only way to that is by defeating Uzumaki Naruto and handing him to me,” said Madara. “Sasuke, but he’s,” said Karin before getting cut off. “You have the eyes! You can do this! Bring him to me and no one will ever step in your way again,” yelled Madara. (Sasuke has a flashback to Naruto and himself shaking fingers during their parting after the battle at the Valley of The End.)

“No one stands in my way… I cut bonds to all things that hold me down from achieving my dream. Fine Uchiha Madara, I’ll do this one thing. He can’t be more difficult than 5 Kages at once anyway,” grinned Sasuke. “Destiny finally comes to ahead,” thought Madara. (The Scene switches to a foreign area, Kisame is walking across mountainous terrains. Soon, a zu, zu, zu, zu, sound effect erupts, this cause Kisame to take notice. Soon, Dark Zetsu appears.)

“Zetsu? What happened to your other half,” asked Kisame. “Dead,” said Zetsu. “Well, ain’t that screwed up? So, what were you up against,” asked Kisame. “Kages,” said Zetsu. “Wow, tough stuff, sounds like fun,” said the grinning Kisame. “Kisame, you are needed at the Akatuski base,” said Zetsu. “Why, I traveled on this way in search of the Hachibi,” said Kisame. “Madara has already proceeded with the eye of the moon operation,” said Zetsu. “Oh, ho, ho… I see,” said Kisame. (The scene switches to Team Konoha’s location. They are wondering around in the Land of the Iron.)

“But, we don’t even know where Sasuke is,” said Yamato. “Naruto, wait until we return home, wait after the Elections, and see if the new Hokage will give you permission to leave,” said Kakashi. “Alright,” said Naruto. (Soon a swirling portal opens. Team Konoha turns around as they hear the sound.) “Madara,” questioned Kakashi. (As the portal opens, Sasuke is standing next to Madara. Everyone is shocked especially Naruto. Kakashi lifts up his headband revealing his sharingan.)

“SASUKE,” said Naruto. (Naruto goes into a trance for a while as a long pause is ignited as they glare at each other; Sasuke’s eyes go sharingan.) “Bye kiddies,” said Madara. (He goes back into his portal and vanishes.) “Sasuke,” said Naruto. “No, Naruto,” said Yamato, as he tries to touch Naruto’s arm. (Kakashi pulls Yamato away as he shakes his head.) “I’ll handle it,” said Naruto.

“Sasuke, please, let me speak to you,” said Naruto. (Sasuke dashes toward Naruto with a chidori charged sword. Yamato and Kakashi are shocked by Sasuke’s speed.) “His body flicker is fast; but Naruto’s handseals are too,” thought Kakashi.

(A shadow clone automatically pulls Naruto’s real body by the arm and swings him into mid-air as the real Naruto lands 8 ft distance away from the trust of Sasuke’s blade further left from Naruto initial postion; Yamato and Kakashi backs off and dashes backwards.)

"So since he couldn't react in time, he used the momentum from his jump paired with the shadow clone's strength to avoid the blow and escape into the air; not bad at all," thought Kakashi.

(Immeidately the shadow clone tries to hook Sasuke, however Sasuke ducks, turns around and stabs, dispersing it, however, Naruto immediately follows up the attack with a downward axe kick from Sasuke’s rear.)

“His reflexes,” thought Sasuke. (Sasuke evades by dashsing away but in front of Naruto and turns around to face him as the kick leaves a crack in the snow. Sasuke notices that Naruto’s eyes have demon pupils.)

“So that’s how,” thought Sasuke. “WHY ARE YOU LIKE THIS? TELL ME,” yelled Naruto. “You’re nothing but an obstacle in my path, that is all,” said Sasuke. “You’ve changed Sasuke,” said Naruto. “I’m loyal to my goals, everyone and everything else is forfeit if it means being a step closer to achieving what I’m after; you should know this better than anyone else, Naruto” said Sasuke. (Sasuke rushes forward again and comes within close range preparing to strike with his blade, while Naruto leans back make the shadow clone handseal. The poses resemble Naruto and Sasuke clashing from the art Kishi drew in regards to God of Wind vs. God of Lightning.)

**~~rajin~~** · 10-09-2009, 11:38 AM

I can't help myself but thing about this moon with the sharingan on it... casting a genjutsu worldwide... And there's a couple things I still don't understand.

1- He can only control... people.. at night, or during certain hours every day, not ALL the time, I mean, there comes to a point to which the moon will be on the other side of the earth(unless Kishi made his planet the same way civilization imagined it to be a good 500 years back!)

2- What if a really huge freaking cloud came in front of it? I don't know, I'm just not buying it. By definition to be caught in a genjutsu(or correct me if I'm wrong), it disrupts the users chakra flow in their brain and manipulates it, but for that to happen, they have to look at the eyes(well in the MS case anyway) of the user. So if you wear a cap you're cool? lol. I don't know. Anyone else thinking along these lines? Or is he just going to cast a genjutsu on the planet and uchihax that way?

His plot doesn't make sense to me at all.

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