Enough of orochimaru being the strongest

[BossManKakashi]

Orochimaru is not the strongest shinobi in history for the love of god..

1. Sasuke is in control of the whole scenario if anything he will be the one who is strongest.
2. Nine tails army > 4 hokages
3. Oro isn't going to rise as a main antagonist again, sasuke can own orochimaru now with ems if itachi could with ms. There are no control talismans on the hokages and sasuke isnt gonna let him control those hokages. Believe that.
4. Where can you find one shred of evidence that oro is definitively better than jiraiya? I say this cause there are lots of ninja better than jiraiya meaning your boy oro isn't even top 5
5. Oro < Nagato
6. The main villain is by and far Madara uchia.. He been running game and manipulatin the whole shinobi world since before orochimarus parents were even born. Madara is the real OG you know this.
7. Oro stated he could be killed by 4 tails naruto, what do you think km naruto could do?
8. Even if orochimaru controls the hokages, What do you think that GAI and Kakashi naruto with kurama chakra share and lets say sai for sealing would do to oro and the 4 hokages? Considering rock lee fodderized edo Madara team naruto would crush them with imputiny.

Orochimaru isn't the greatest shinobi of all time, face it.
Ps maybe you aren't creepy but being an oro fanboy connotates "creepy"

[saaaaaadpanda]

, who said Oro was the strongest? Maybe the most durable.

[sulanis]

, who said Oro was the strongest? Maybe the most durable.

thats what i was going to say, plus the most crafty and intelligent

[blazekev90]

You mad? His owns your fave low-difficulty, accept it and keep it moving.

[BossManKakashi]

You mad? His owns your fave low-difficulty, accept it and keep it moving.

Logic to back your points would be appreciated. Thanks.

[blazekev90]

Logic to back your points would be appreciated. Thanks.

If Kakashi is your fave do i really need to state why?? Kakashi himself knows this lmao

[L Lawliet]

If Kakashi is your fave do i really need to state why?? Kakashi himself knows this lmao

Still loses to Itachi.

[blazekev90]

Still loses to Itachi.

well he's quite irrelevant now isn't he? Exactly! Don't be mad lol

[spatha]

If Kakashi is your fave do i really need to state why?? Kakashi himself knows this lmao

haha dude, the fact that you still have yet to present any legitimate points shows that you are most likely just a butthurt kakashi hater and not even an oro fan. That said, on to OT...of course oro isn't the strongest, he knows a good many techniques but that means little. Hiruzen knew every technique it was within his power to know from the hidden leaf, and oro definitely couldn't do anything but send the first and second against him which hiruzen was handling fairly well. The only other major happenings with oro were his no arms battle with 4 tails naruto, in which he admitted that if naruto was acting of his own mind, not rampaging he could easily kill him, and then sasuke basically pwning him from existance until recently when oro tried to control his body. The only thing i will say for oro though, is he is durable, and given his various regeneration techs that require little to no chakra from him if used right he could in all practical senses be immortal in that even if he dies in short time now, logically there would be some far off hidden base no one ever knew of but him that countains more samples of his dna which could potentially lead to his regrowth again, just like how even after sasuke destroyed him, he lived on in kabuto and began to take over. He may not be top 5 or even top 10 but surely it can be agreed that he has quite the will and means to outlive ust about any other character.

[BossManKakashi]

haha dude, the fact that you still have yet to present any legitimate points shows that you are most likely just a butthurt kakashi hater and not even an oro fan. That said, on to OT...of course oro isn't the strongest, he knows a good many techniques but that means little. Hiruzen knew every technique it was within his power to know from the hidden leaf, and oro definitely couldn't do anything but send the first and second against him which hiruzen was handling fairly well. The only other major happenings with oro were his no arms battle with 4 tails naruto, in which he admitted that if naruto was acting of his own mind, not rampaging he could easily kill him, and then sasuke basically pwning him from existance until recently when oro tried to control his body. The only thing i will say for oro though, is he is durable, and given his various regeneration techs that require little to no chakra from him if used right he could in all practical senses be immortal in that even if he dies in short time now, logically there would be some far off hidden base no one ever knew of but him that countains more samples of his dna which could potentially lead to his regrowth again, just like how even after sasuke destroyed him, he lived on in kabuto and began to take over. He may not be top 5 or even top 10 but surely it can be agreed that he has quite the will and means to outlive ust about any other character.

Very well said sir, finally someone who knows what a logical argument is.

[Namikaze Haru]

If Kakashi is your fave do i really need to state why?? Kakashi himself knows this lmao

sry but from what we have seen so far kakashi owns orochimaru

[Deidara Bocchi]

You mad? His owns your fave low-difficulty, accept it and keep it moving.

Get out of here fanboy. ''He owns favorite character mid difficulty''.

[Noobastank]

You mad? His owns your fave low-difficulty, accept it and keep it moving.

Yeah im not an orochimaru fan but i agree

[L Lawliet]

Thank you so much.

[Killer B]

People are just hyping him now I think

Think about it the only time we saw him fight seriously with his arms he was using edos pretty much the whole time

Sense then he has not had arms so thats the only time we have seen him in his prime...

[Smd]

Orochimaru is not the strongest shinobi in history for the love of god..

1. Sasuke is in control of the whole scenario if anything he will be the one who is strongest.
2. Nine tails army > 4 hokages
3. Oro isn't going to rise as a main antagonist again, sasuke can own orochimaru now with ems if itachi could with ms. There are no control talismans on the hokages and sasuke isnt gonna let him control those hokages. Believe that.
4. Where can you find one shred of evidence that oro is definitively better than jiraiya? I say this cause there are lots of ninja better than jiraiya meaning your boy oro isn't even top 5
5. Oro < Nagato
6. The main villain is by and far Madara uchia.. He been running game and manipulatin the whole shinobi world since before orochimarus parents were even born. Madara is the real OG you know this.
7. Oro stated he could be killed by 4 tails naruto, what do you think km naruto could do?
8. Even if orochimaru controls the hokages, What do you think that GAI and Kakashi naruto with kurama chakra share and lets say sai for sealing would do to oro and the 4 hokages? Considering rock lee fodderized edo Madara team naruto would crush them with imputiny.

Orochimaru isn't the greatest shinobi of all time, face it.
Ps maybe you aren't creepy but being an oro fanboy connotates "creepy"

wow cant decide if your a hater or just a troll

1. its clear that itachi or sasuke>orochimaru
2. no way in hell is that true
3.show proof, otherwise there under control until proven otherwise
4.orochimaru with hands>Jiraiya
5.yeah
6. i believe its only a matter of time before madara is trolled and sealed.
7. lmfao? last i check orochimaru was toying with naruto. and he didnt have his hands to btw.
8. omg...if you believe AS> 4 konoha hokages includeing hashirama himself then you need to be slapped.

if hashirama isnt handicaped like in part 1. he alone could take down the whole army except naruto+kakashi+guy

, who said Oro was the strongest? Maybe the most durable.

orochimaru is the only one in the manga to defy the repear deal seal and toskua blade.

he is the strongest by default now because its clear that there is no limits on power when it comes to him.

but uchihas like sasuke obito itachi madara have his number with genjutsu

People are just hyping him now I think

Think about it the only time we saw him fight seriously with his arms he was using edos pretty much the whole time

Sense then he has not had arms so thats the only time we have seen him in his prime...

the problem with this arugement is that kishi handicaped the edos strength by like 80%. none of them used there most power attacks and were sealed by a old man who couldnt even stop nine tails.

[Snape Uchiha]

I agree with you except for that I think Orochimaru will use talismans to control the Hokage, otherwise it would be to dangerous for him.

[Kages]

With Edo, yeah. Without Edo, no.

[The BlackHeart Clan]

ur hater of the year.

[Jordanofthecloud]

Orochimaru is the sh*t!!! And has been, since he first showed his damn face.

[hemanshewo]

whos smarter now orochimaru or kabuto

[Snape Uchiha]

whos smarter now orochimaru or kabuto

Kabuto was always more intelligent, Orochimaru was just more powerful at the beginning. When Tsunade messed up Kabuto's body, he just figured out how to work with it and kept fighting.

[Kages]

whos smarter now orochimaru or kabuto

Orochimaru because he wouldn't let Edo Tensei roam free

[BodyFlicker]

Orochimaru because he wouldn't let Edo Tensei roam free

this^^

[snake orochimaru]

Lee fodderized Edo Madara???

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