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    itachi's gift

    what if the gift itachi gave to naruto was to be able to read the stone tablet?
     
         

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    Re: itachi's gift

    then i think naruto will finaly learn how to read :D
     
         

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    hahahahahaha lol
     
         

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    Re: itachi's gift

    That is a very good point, that would tell him how special his body is, and what he may have to do, who knows it may be written for him, the sage of six paths may have had the ability to see the future
     
         

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    Re: itachi's gift

    Quote Originally Posted by Hokage786 View Post
    what if the gift itachi gave to naruto was to be able to read the stone tablet?
    Isn't the requirement to read the tablet is to have at least a Sharingan eye or Rinnegan? Which in this case its impossible, cause Itachi never give Naruto his Sharingan. Besides, in manga, doesn't Itachi said something like this: "I have given you some of my power, I pray that you won't have to use it". This fact concludes that despite its only "some" of his power, the wish to not use it unless its absolutely necessary gives hint on its strength. Honestly, I have no idea what that gift is, but i came up with some suggestions on what it might be (Although its possible that its neither one of the list). This is what i think it is:

    1. The ability to use Fire style (Katon), which probably in later manga, naruto will use it to form some sort of Fuuton : Rasen-Shuriken with some other S-Rank Fire Style combination jutsu though I have no idea what it is. Since the wind part will feed the fire part with enormous attack power, It could be something that's so dangerous Itachi prefer him not to use it.

    2. Some sort of jutsu that allow Naruto to tap into Kyuubi's power/chakra in a more advance way, allowing him to draw out more of Kyuubi's power. This too is very dangerous. Since sharingan is not necessarily needed to control a bijuu (First Hokage) and the fact Uchiha Madara controlled Kyuubi during the attack on Konoha 16 years ago, It's possible that Uchiha Itachi has come up with a way to do the same thing (Uchiha Clan).

    3. Jutsu that the Sage of the Six Path used to contain Juubi in his body, as a last resort incase its needed...this too can explain his concern about Naruto's using it.

    Basically..This list is pure imagination. It can be one of those, which i doubt it somehow. It can be neither also, which is very likely. Either way, thats my opinion on Itachi's gift to Naruto. Peace ^_^
     
         

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    Re: itachi's gift

    maybe. but we'll just have 2 wait and see
     
         

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    Re: itachi's gift

    I believe that since Itachi and Naruto were discussing fighting Sauske if Sauske were to attack the leaf village at the time the gift is something that will activate while Naruto is fighting Sasuke this would also make sense when Itachi said I pray you never have to use it because he hopes Naruto is never forced fight Sauske in that way. Itachi hoped Madara would never get to Sauske but this gift to Naruto was a fail safe should the it happen. The gift is probably a tsukuyomi counter that blocks tsukuyomi and shows Sauske the truth of why Itachi killed the clan and the truth about Itachi, or something that will turn Sauske against Madara.
     
         

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    Re: itachi's gift

    Quote Originally Posted by ZGMFX1586Edea View Post
    Isn't the requirement to read the tablet is to have at least a Sharingan eye or Rinnegan? Which in this case its impossible, cause Itachi never give Naruto his Sharingan. Besides, in manga, doesn't Itachi said something like this: "I have given you some of my power, I pray that you won't have to use it". This fact concludes that despite its only "some" of his power, the wish to not use it unless its absolutely necessary gives hint on its strength. Honestly, I have no idea what that gift is, but i came up with some suggestions on what it might be (Although its possible that its neither one of the list). This is what i think it is:

    1. The ability to use Fire style (Katon), which probably in later manga, naruto will use it to form some sort of Fuuton : Rasen-Shuriken with some other S-Rank Fire Style combination jutsu though I have no idea what it is. Since the wind part will feed the fire part with enormous attack power, It could be something that's so dangerous Itachi prefer him not to use it.

    2. Some sort of jutsu that allow Naruto to tap into Kyuubi's power/chakra in a more advance way, allowing him to draw out more of Kyuubi's power. This too is very dangerous. Since sharingan is not necessarily needed to control a bijuu (First Hokage) and the fact Uchiha Madara controlled Kyuubi during the attack on Konoha 16 years ago, It's possible that Uchiha Itachi has come up with a way to do the same thing (Uchiha Clan).

    3. Jutsu that the Sage of the Six Path used to contain Juubi in his body, as a last resort incase its needed...this too can explain his concern about Naruto's using it.

    Basically..This list is pure imagination. It can be one of those, which i doubt it somehow. It can be neither also, which is very likely. Either way, thats my opinion on Itachi's gift to Naruto. Peace ^_^
    Ok.

    First paragraph: you kinda contradict yourself here.
    when Itachi said "I have given you some of my power, I pray that you won't have to use it", that may could still mean reading the tablet. (Power can also mean ability, Duh!, though we don't know the extent of how/what Itachi can transfer.)
    The tablet has details on the Rikudo sennin, if Naruto needed to read that then that would mean Madara's "eye of moon" plan had proceeded to that point and that would have been past Itachi's comfort zone. (Itachi wanted to stop Madara getting to his brother and try to protect peace in the world)

    Reply's to the rest

    1) yeah but that would be just another cheesey power up,
    "Yay, Naruto can now burn stuff to a crisp, this somehow outclasses the illusive wind chakra's ability to deal enough microscopic damage to someone's cell's that their flesh would begin to liquify".

    2) somewhat valid but nonetheless unlikely.
    the amount of Kyubi chakra Naruto accesses without help is on the boundary of not dealing any damage to him, basically, when only his eye's show kyubi chakra, any futher and he would start to form the Fox' cloak with burns his skin off. (though thats merely conjecture)

    3) Can't really think of a point that really sticks other than, Naruto's seal which holds half of the kyubi's power is getting weaker, hold the jyubi which is however many times bigger.................you get the idea.


    and thats about it.

    I pretty much think that its the power to read that stone tablet aswell. (either that or a way to counter Sasuke's Mangekyo DeathHAXgan.)
     
         

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    Re: itachi's gift

    Maybe the kyuubi can read it also?
     
         

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    Re: itachi's gift

    The kyubi is not a great monster but just a part of a 10 tailed demon so I doubt it can read that stone or do something thrat great


    I think Itachi's power is connected with Kyubi inside Naruto and refers to his fight vs Sasuke, as it was what they were discussing that time.
     
         

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    Re: itachi's gift

    Itachi knew for sure Madara's Moon Eye plan so, i think that naruto may have some ability that allows him to control the Kyubi if somehow is extracted from naruto's body. This justifies Itachis: ''i hope you'll never need to use it'' or whatever he said
     
         

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    Re: itachi's gift

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkMarke View Post
    Ok.

    First paragraph: you kinda contradict yourself here.
    when Itachi said "I have given you some of my power, I pray that you won't have to use it", that may could still mean reading the tablet. (Power can also mean ability, Duh!, though we don't know the extent of how/what Itachi can transfer.)
    The tablet has details on the Rikudo sennin, if Naruto needed to read that then that would mean Madara's "eye of moon" plan had proceeded to that point and that would have been past Itachi's comfort zone. (Itachi wanted to stop Madara getting to his brother and try to protect peace in the world)

    Reply's to the rest

    1) yeah but that would be just another cheesey power up,
    "Yay, Naruto can now burn stuff to a crisp, this somehow outclasses the illusive wind chakra's ability to deal enough microscopic damage to someone's cell's that their flesh would begin to liquify".

    2) somewhat valid but nonetheless unlikely.
    the amount of Kyubi chakra Naruto accesses without help is on the boundary of not dealing any damage to him, basically, when only his eye's show kyubi chakra, any futher and he would start to form the Fox' cloak with burns his skin off. (though thats merely conjecture)

    3) Can't really think of a point that really sticks other than, Naruto's seal which holds half of the kyubi's power is getting weaker, hold the jyubi which is however many times bigger.................you get the idea.


    and thats about it.

    I pretty much think that its the power to read that stone tablet aswell. (either that or a way to counter Sasuke's Mangekyo DeathHAXgan.)
    Err....I don't think I contradict myself here. If the gift is the ability to read the stone tablet, which will definitely help Naruto in his way to claim Sasuke back and destroy the Mooneye plan, don't you think Itachi will say something like this : "I have given you some of my power, I pray that you know how to use it/be able to use it". This will shift the gift from strength based to important based, get me so far? Cause in this case Itachi hopes Naruto WILL use it to read the tablet to figure out anything that might help throwing the mooneye operation to the garbage bin. Ability that's essential like that........don't you think its a little off to see how Itachi's wish for Naruto not to use it? Now thats what I call Contradiction. Furthermore, that gift is kinda dumb if only to read a tablet, cause Kakashi has partial sharingan which can read the stone tablet too, though he probably needs to close his normal eye off (Since in the manga, it doesn't say that you have to have both sharingan eye to read it.....I could be wrong though). Personally, I like the idea that the gift is to counter Tsukuyomi.....but, isn't the basic requirement to survive a Genjutsu as powerful as Tsukuyomi is to actually be an Uchiha clan (have sharingan too) I think Itachi stated it in manga and in the original Naruto Episode. I forgot though when and where. I have a feeling that Naruto has a hidden Kekkei Genkai......though what is that or what its capable of is unknown to me ^_^. Anyway, thanks for the comment though. Peace ^_^(Note : You probably gonna say that I contradict myself again by saying an ability as essential as well as dumb, i just wanted to tell you that i am not. Essential w.r.t to Importance, Dumb w.r.t to Redundant)
     
         

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    Re: itachi's gift

    I don't think anybody doubts at this time that naruto has a hidden kekkei genkai but what it is is still way up in the air. I would like to see the gift itachi gave naruto it would really clear up a bunch of stuff.
     
         

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    Couldn't be. It would incredibly lame to read a tablet which we as the audience pretty much know most of the info. Plus Madara said the order of the dojutsus in which more info is revealed so Naruto wouldn't be getting everything. Basically a lot of buildup for naught.

    Itachi hoped that Naruto wouldn't use this power and the conversation before the crow flew into Naruto was about how much of a brother Sasuke meant to him. It's might have something to do with Sasuke reaching a particular dark stage that directly affects Naruto and the Kyuubi.

    Quote Originally Posted by NineTailedSage View Post
    I don't think anybody doubts at this time that naruto has a hidden kekkei genkai but what it is is still way up in the air. I would like to see the gift itachi gave naruto it would really clear up a bunch of stuff.
    Sure people do. The evidence to support Naruto having a hidden kekkei genkai would be?
     
         

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    Re: itachi's gift

    Quote Originally Posted by Alucard View Post
    Itachi knew for sure Madara's Moon Eye plan so, i think that naruto may have some ability that allows him to control the Kyubi if somehow is extracted from naruto's body. This justifies Itachis: ''i hope you'll never need to use it'' or whatever he said
    Well Madara never actually trusted Itachi so I don't think he informed Itachi about his plan.
    Itachi couldofcourse read the stone tablet ot talk to Nagato..
     
         

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    Re: itachi's gift

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyria View Post
    Couldn't be. It would incredibly lame to read a tablet which we as the audience pretty much know most of the info. Plus Madara said the order of the dojutsus in which more info is revealed so Naruto wouldn't be getting everything. Basically a lot of buildup for naught.

    Itachi hoped that Naruto wouldn't use this power and the conversation before the crow flew into Naruto was about how much of a brother Sasuke meant to him. It's might have something to do with Sasuke reaching a particular dark stage that directly affects Naruto and the Kyuubi.



    Sure people do. The evidence to support Naruto having a hidden kekkei genkai would be?
    Hmm....I don't know if this could be the evidence of kekkei genkai....but I know that this is evidence of an Ultimate Jutsu. In Naruto Shippuden Episode 130, when Jiraiya ask the Toad who holds the key to unlock the Kyuubi seal to actually resides inside Naruto's body, which of course the Toad object by stating that "no one's ever put the key next to the safe", didn't Jiraiya reply with something like "This probably what Yondaime wanted me to do, and i know it because i am his teacher" and "Yondaime knows what he is doing........" and something like "He probably would want him (Naruto) to master that *Jutsu*". I don't think this jutsu is Shiki Fuujin (Did I spell it correctly?), and I don't think its any type of sealing jutsu either.....and why Naruto? Why Yondaime chose him as the vessel for the Kyuubi? What Jutsu that Jiraiya's talking about? You don't normally use your son as the vessel for harbinger of death without SOLID REASON, right? (unless you are a lunatic parent) That's what make me think that Naruto has something that no one have, some sort of special ability that only his father had noticed it (Kinda remind me when Goku realize that Gohan can surpass him and achieve SS2).......Isn't that at least, a crude explanation of Kekkei Genkai? Still, in the end, I could be wrong. Peace ^_^
     
         

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    Re: itachi's gift

    My sig says it all...


    If Itachi hated Madara so much and knew his plan... then why not?
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZGMFX1586Edea View Post
    Hmm....I don't know if this could be the evidence of kekkei genkai....but I know that this is evidence of an Ultimate Jutsu. In Naruto Shippuden Episode 130, when Jiraiya ask the Toad who holds the key to unlock the Kyuubi seal to actually resides inside Naruto's body, which of course the Toad object by stating that "no one's ever put the key next to the safe", didn't Jiraiya reply with something like "This probably what Yondaime wanted me to do, and i know it because i am his teacher" and "Yondaime knows what he is doing........" and something like "He probably would want him (Naruto) to master that *Jutsu*". I don't think this jutsu is Shiki Fuujin (Did I spell it correctly?), and I don't think its any type of sealing jutsu either.....and why Naruto? Why Yondaime chose him as the vessel for the Kyuubi? What Jutsu that Jiraiya's talking about? You don't normally use your son as the vessel for harbinger of death without SOLID REASON, right? (unless you are a lunatic parent) That's what make me think that Naruto has something that no one have, some sort of special ability that only his father had noticed it (Kinda remind me when Goku realize that Gohan can surpass him and achieve SS2).......Isn't that at least, a crude explanation of Kekkei Genkai? Still, in the end, I could be wrong. Peace ^_^
    Minato just assumed that the Kyuubi would benefit Naruto into learning w/e jutsu he had planned down the line. Probably some sort of time/space jutsu. Also it was used as a way to make sure the Kyuubi was out of Madara's hand as his sealing technique is different then the others. Nothing really to do with a Kekkei Genkai.
     
         

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    Re: itachi's gift

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyria View Post
    Couldn't be. It would incredibly lame to read a tablet which we as the audience pretty much know most of the info. Plus Madara said the order of the dojutsus in which more info is revealed so Naruto wouldn't be getting everything. Basically a lot of buildup for naught.

    Itachi hoped that Naruto wouldn't use this power and the conversation before the crow flew into Naruto was about how much of a brother Sasuke meant to him. It's might have something to do with Sasuke reaching a particular dark stage that directly affects Naruto and the Kyuubi.



    Sure people do. The evidence to support Naruto having a hidden kekkei genkai would be?
    When Yamato stated that there was something special about narutos own chakra and the kyuubi chakra being like poison to naruto. He stated that there was something that allowed him to fight the kyuubi negative effects. Maybe his kekkei genkai is his healing ability, or regeneration.

    Naruto 299 page 04 | One Manga
    http://www.onemanga.com/Naruto/299/11/
     
         
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    Re: itachi's gift

    I think most of you are thinking about Itachi's gift in the wrong way. Why jump to the conclusion that its a way to stop Madara? Itachi's main concern was his little brother Sasuke, not stopping Madara. The only reason he implanted Amaterasu into Sasuke's eye and made it activate at the sight of Madara was not because he wanted to stop Madara's plans, but because he wanted to prevent Sasuke from being corrupted by Madara.

    The "Gift" is much more likely a way to stop Sasuke than it is to stop Madara. Hence the "hope you never have to use it" line. If Naruto has to use it then Itachi failed and Sasuke became corrupted. Something Itachi gave his life in order to prevent.
     
         

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    Re: itachi's gift

    Quote Originally Posted by NineTailedSage View Post
    When Yamato stated that there was something special about narutos own chakra and the kyuubi chakra being like poison to naruto. He stated that there was something that allowed him to fight the kyuubi negative effects. Maybe his kekkei genkai is his healing ability, or regeneration.

    Naruto 299 page 04 | One Manga
    Naruto 299 page 11 | One Manga
    Doesn't really point to a Kekkei Genkai. Actually that points more to Naruto having some Senju blood/chakra that can naturally combat/cancel out the Kyuubi's own negative chakra. Minato could've known the information before deciding to seal the Kyuubi into him. Kabuto can regenerate as well but he doesn't have a Kekkei Genkai.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyria View Post
    Doesn't really point to a Kekkei Genkai. Actually that points more to Naruto having some Senju blood/chakra that can naturally combat/cancel out the Kyuubi's own negative chakra. Minato could've known the information before deciding to seal the Kyuubi into him. Kabuto can regenerate as well but he doesn't have a Kekkei Genkai.
    I thought Naruto was fresh out the womb when the Kyuubi was sealed into him. Not sure if that magna was real though or a fan fic.:confused: But even if it is senju blood that gives him immunity to the Kyuubis poisonous chakra, wouldn't that be a kind of Kekkei Genkai?
     
         

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    Re: itachi's gift

    Quote Originally Posted by NineTailedSage View Post
    I thought Naruto was fresh out the womb when the Kyuubi was sealed into him. Not sure if that magna was real though or a fan fic.:confused: But even if it is senju blood that gives him immunity to the Kyuubis poisonous chakra, wouldn't that be a kind of Kekkei Genkai?
    No, not really. They had large natural chakra supplies but that's just more of a trait rather then a Kekkei Genkai. Kekkei Genkai's are more obvious.
     
         

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    Re: itachi's gift

    Quote Originally Posted by zumorikato View Post
    Everybody made good and valid points, so I think we are al speculating on this matter, why not can I? ; )

    Well I would look at Itachi in his position what he would do to find the answer, rather than concentrating on what Naruto would need in order to "save the day".

    If I look at Itachi i see a broken man, torn between left and right and not able to pick any side. The one side Sasuke, the other side, the village/world. I would say he was hoping deep in his heart that Sasuke might be the saviour of the village/world, while Minato was hoping Naruto was the saviour of the village/world. So you can see the resemblance between the two characters and their respective parties. Minato "gave" Naruto something, in the frog scroll from the Jman we dont know yet what it might be, and Itachi gave Sasuke his Do-jitsu powers.

    I think Itachi came to the realisation that Sasuke have fallen astray and might not be the saviour like he wished for, but he still had hope for Sasuke and clinged to the possibility that Sasuke might turn good, with a bit of Naruto "orientation" cough fuuton rasenshuriken cough cough if you know what I mean ; )

    So following this trait, I presume the gift Itachi gave Naruto is a fail-safe in case Sasuke turns evil, and that he was hoping Naruto would not need to use it, this indactes to me that it would be something that could be dangerous to either Naruto or Sasuke. Not the village. ; ) SO I think this relates to something between Naruto and Sasuke only, and not for something Naruto would use to protect the village/world against Madara, but to save it against Sasuke!!!

    Now that we have narrowed it down a little, I believe its something that Itachi gave to Naruto inorder to protect Naruto from something he gave Sasuke, because he didnt know what Sasukes power consisted of prior to their battle, to gave him something against that ~.~ . So, as we could see later in the manga, that Itachi only gave Sasuke his do-jitusus, and not his intellect aswell. this can be confirmed with the stupid choices Sasuke makes, (Like attacking the 5 kages head on). Thus I came to the conclusion that the gift Itachi was refering to, have to be something to counter a/all of the Do jitsus that he gave to Sasuke, this gift will do damage, to one or either party if I analyse his concern correctly. So this "gift" will be not just a defensive gift, but also an offensive gift.

    TO speculate what the gift exactly is, is the only thing that we can do because there is no clear evidence as to what it might be. but I have read in another's post that they think it might be an amulet of some power to counter Sasukes Ametarsu ect. which sound plausible.

    Ill leave you with that, but thats my grasp on the situation.

    Word!

    I agree completely and thank you for the sane post ( No offence to anybody else as it was the only post I read. I'm just glad that I didn't have to return to see " it was a frog " again.)

    with a bit of Naruto "orientation" cough fuuton rasenshuriken cough cough if you know what I mean ; )
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    Re: itachi's gift

    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyria View Post
    No, not really. They had large natural chakra supplies but that's just more of a trait rather then a Kekkei Genkai. Kekkei Genkai's are more obvious.
    I wanna argure this point with you some more but I keep starring at your sig.:D:D
     
         

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