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    Re: Full Analysis of Madara Uchiha.

    most of those moves he got from stealing hashi's cells he will be dead soon tho if the 4th and naruto get to him jus imagine minato with some nine-tails chakra to amplify his moves
     
         

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    Re: Full Analysis of Madara Uchiha.

    Quote Originally Posted by Liquid Snake View Post
    most of those moves he got from stealing hashi's cells he will be dead soon tho if the 4th and naruto get to him jus imagine minato with some nine-tails chakra to amplify his moves
    Minato can't get through normal Susanoo, I won't even debate about Perfect Susanoo and Rinnegan, Naruto has no chance to pass this defense either.
    Nah bro, Madara said "Hashirama WAS the only one who could stop me", EMS Madara almost defeated the Hashirama, now he is like thrice times stronger.
     
         

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    Re: Full Analysis of Madara Uchiha.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrLukyso View Post
    Minato can't get through normal Susanoo, I won't even debate about Perfect Susanoo and Rinnegan, Naruto has no chance to pass this defense either.
    Nah bro, Madara said "Hashirama WAS the only one who could stop me", EMS Madara almost defeated the Hashirama, now he is like thrice times stronger.
    PS is as strong as a bijuu but i highly doubt even as strong as the Nine tails hence y he used the nine tails to fight Hashi not Ps(minato beat the 9 tails). and Minato has the speed advantage and can use taijutsu with Kurama's power boost he would dominate him even Rock lee almost beat him with one kick lmao u really think minato wont be even faster and plus he can just seal madara with one touch and mind u he has infinite chakra to
     
         

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    Re: Full Analysis of Madara Uchiha.

    Madara has Wood Dragon to take care of Kyuubi.
    Plus PS which is also as strong as Kyuubi.
    Actually Minato lost to Kyuubi, he died, so as his wife.
    Speed adventage isnt everything, Madara countered FTG once
     
         

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    Re: Full Analysis of Madara Uchiha.

    Quote Originally Posted by kakashi ms View Post
    the manga didn't show madara use amatrasu
    but to use susano'o, you must have both amaterasu and tsukuyomi..
     
         

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    Re: Full Analysis of Madara Uchiha.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sir Ichiraku View Post
    but to use susano'o, you must have both amaterasu and tsukuyomi..
    True.
    There's some proof for example :
    Itachi has Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu and has Susanoo.
    Sasuke has Amaterasu and Itachis eyes witch 100% guarantees Tsukuyomi, has Susanoo.
    Obito has Kamui.
     
         

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    Re: Full Analysis of Madara Uchiha.

    I forgot to add that Madara wasn't "enchanted" by Kabuto.
    Madara already had Hashiramas cells and Mokuton.
    Madara already had a Rinnegan.
    Madara doesn't want this "weak" Edo Body.

    Kabuto didn't enchant Madara at all, he just thinks he did cause he doesn't know all, but Madara proved it to be otherwise.
     
         

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    Re: Full Analysis of Madara Uchiha.

    Madara couldn't even react to Lee's speed when Obito could, yet you say he is one of the fastest or that his speed rivals Minato's? This is just a wank thread, nothing more. Nice effort though
     
         

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    Re: Full Analysis of Madara Uchiha.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post
    Madara couldn't even react to Lee's speed when Obito could, yet you say he is one of the fastest? This is just a wank thread, nothing more. Nice effort though
    Madara didn't even tried to defend, he's in Edo Body..
    Madara countered Flying Thunder God, you think he couldn't block Lees kick ?
     
         

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    Re: Full Analysis of Madara Uchiha.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrLukyso View Post
    Madara didn't even tried to defend, he's in Edo Body..
    Madara countered Flying Thunder God, you think he couldn't block Lees kick ?
    He never countered Flying Thunder God since he never even fought Minato before. His speed is nowhere near Minato's. On the pic, you can clearly see he was surprised. He had no reaction time against Lee
     
         

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    Re: Full Analysis of Madara Uchiha.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post
    He never countered Flying Thunder God since he never even fought Minato before. His speed is nowhere near Minato's. On the pic, you can clearly see he was surprised. He had no reaction time against Lee
    Are you kidding ? So you're telling me Lee is faster than Flying Thunder God ? Madara did counter it indeed, when Tsunade was teleported with FTG to Madara, Madara blocked the Kick.
     
         

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    Re: Full Analysis of Madara Uchiha.

    Good thread overall but fix the links
     
         

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    Re: Full Analysis of Madara Uchiha.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrLukyso View Post
    Are you kidding ? So you're telling me Lee is faster than Flying Thunder God ? Madara did counter it indeed, when Tsunade was teleported with FTG to Madara, Madara blocked the Kick.
    And again, he never countered Flying Thunder God to begin with. Tsunade wasn't teleported with FTG, but with Mabui's jutsu
     
         

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    Re: Full Analysis of Madara Uchiha.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post
    And again, he never countered Flying Thunder God to begin with. Tsunade wasn't teleported with FTG, but with Mabui's jutsu
    Sorry, you got the point here, Mei was teleported with Flying Thunder God, sorry again I got carried away a bit. At any point, but Mabui's jutsu is still Space Time Ninjutsu, practically the same thing.
     
         

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    Re: Full Analysis of Madara Uchiha.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrLukyso View Post
    Sorry, you got the point here, Mei was teleported with Flying Thunder God, sorry again I got carried away a bit. At any point, but Mabui's jutsu is still Space Time Ninjutsu, practically the same thing.
    If you recognise your error it's ok for me

    But i have to disagree with something. FTG and Mabui's jutsu are not really the same thing since the speed of the jutsu is greater lower than FTG. It's not even instant. It's just a jutsu to cover distance at lightning speed. Proof of it? Just look:

    - Tsunade and A started to travel on this pic:


    - At that moment, Genma and others had not even started to use FTG but instead waiting for Tsunade's arrival


    They even says it here that the instant Tsunade and A arrive, they will use FTG:


    And it's what happened on the following pages:


    So like you can see, Mabui's jutsu only transports someone at lightning speed, but it's not instant. If you still don't see it, i've drawn this pic that may probably make you understand better



    Notice the red circles? It's to show how they are arriving on the battlefield. And after that, it expands creating a sort of light on the rectangle i draw. So clearly Madara could have seen all that(there is even 3panels before the collison), thus having some time to react. The FTG is instant, so give no reaction time
     
         
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    Re: Full Analysis of Madara Uchiha.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrLukyso View Post
    Sorry, you got the point here, Mei was teleported with Flying Thunder God, sorry again I got carried away a bit. At any point, but Mabui's jutsu is still Space Time Ninjutsu, practically the same thing.
    There's a difference here. Mei was teleported a few good metres away from Madara. When Minato uses FTG he teleports inches away from the target. That means less time to react.
     
         

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    Re: Full Analysis of Madara Uchiha.

    I agre 100% madara is so underrated by half of the people on this base and its really just because they're uchiha haters
     
         

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    Re: Full Analysis of Madara Uchiha.

    Quote Originally Posted by DrProof View Post
    Couldn't I have just used NarutoWikia?

    OT: Reading now.
    Oh the irony.
     
         

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    Re: Full Analysis of Madara Uchiha.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post
    If you recognise your error it's ok for me

    But i have to disagree with something. FTG and Mabui's jutsu are not really the same thing since the speed of the jutsu is greater lower than FTG. It's not even instant. It's just a jutsu to cover distance at lightning speed. Proof of it? Just look:

    - Tsunade and A started to travel on this pic:


    - At that moment, Genma and others had not even started to use FTG but instead waiting for Tsunade's arrival


    They even says it here that the instant Tsunade and A arrive, they will use FTG:


    And it's what happened on the following pages:


    So like you can see, Mabui's jutsu only transports someone at lightning speed, but it's not instant. If you still don't see it, i've drawn this pic that may probably make you understand better



    Notice the red circles? It's to show how they are arriving on the battlefield. And after that, it expands creating a sort of light on the rectangle i draw. So clearly Madara could have seen all that(there is even 3panels before the collison), thus having some time to react. The FTG is instant, so give no reaction time
    Nice, now I agree. Mabui's Jutsu is not Instant, and is much slower than Flying Thunder God, but still you've got to agree, that was Lighting speed it is still something to block it.
     
         

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    Re: Full Analysis of Madara Uchiha.

    Wow, good job mate !

    One of the best analysis of Madara out here.

    Anyone who is debating/arguing about Madara should read this thread first.

    Giving you REP, totally worth it.
     
         

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