[VS] Mei vs kakuzu

[zexion333]

Says a Kakuzu fan in a battle where Kakuzu is involved too

Is there a problem that just means i know woho kakuzu can and cant win against all the better

[zexion333]

Thats why I said water combine with acid mist that beat his earth style she have fire style so thats beat earth too

your acting as if mei would be the first to atack put her on defense what can she do from a direct ligthning or wind or earth or even fire attack such as false darkness searing migraine pressure damage or his earth style attack plus ( in anime only) he has water style as well and dont forget monster mode but i doubt it would come to that

[ItachiStyle]

ahh my bad mispoke just woke up kakuzus primary is earth so he would have no problem dealing with that dragon mei uses and relax eveyone makes mistakes -_-

The only earth tech he's actually shown is his stone skin. That's not going to prevent him being thrown like a rag doll by Mei's water dragon attacks, nor will it help him breath underwater. Elemental balance only matters if the attacks are comparable in scale, and we've seen no evidence Kakuzu's are on Mei's level. The Futon he used isn't even close to the Water Dragon Mei does. Nor can we just grant Kakuzu other earth techs because it suits your argument.

If Kakuzu survives being thrown around like a puppet, and half drowned in the process, Mei can then finish him off when she has an opening with Lava to the face (and we have no evidence at all his stone skin will allow him to survive lava). End fight.

[Bijuu13]

Kakuza mid difficulty

[zexion333]

The only earth tech he's actually shown is his stone skin. That's not going to prevent him being thrown like a rag doll by Mei's water dragon attacks, nor will it help him breath underwater. Elemental balance only matters if the attacks are comparable in scale, and we've seen no evidence Kakuzu's are on Mei's level. The Futon he used isn't even close to the Water Dragon Mei does. Nor can we just grant Kakuzu other earth techs because it suits your argument.

If Kakuzu survives being thrown around like a puppet, and half drowned in the process, Mei can then finish him off when she has an opening with Lava to the face (and we have no evidence at all his stone skin will allow him to survive lava). End fight.

well thats because his earth mask was broken before he could use it ad no once again put mei as to being attacked first what happens also if he can make water wall im guessing he could use earth wall as well also i know this is a long shot but in certain video games kakuzu was shown to create mini mountains to hurt his foes also its iron skin and you act like he couldnt dodge the dragon picture this an iron skin punch right to the dragons mouth im guessing would stop it also mei loses end fight kakuzu attacks first with either all his spams or pressure damage she loses or gets knocked back spams some more then uses false darkness end fight now if need be kakuzu could go into monster form and use weird mask styles ( two elements combined) like fire, wind and lightning all together makes a giant blast of energy ...... END FIGHT mei loses no matter what

[-6 Paths-]

She have fire elemet take care of his futon if dauri can combine to ninjustu together why not mei sution combine with acid mist take care of his hearts lava beats his earth she beats him in all elemental battle he can do shes not mizukage for no reason

He has the Suiton element, which can take care of her Katon

And no liquid or gas is getting close to Kakuzu when he has the Pressure Damage, while his Water and Fuuton, along with the immense dodging advantage he receives when in octopus mode would give him a counter to the Lava, while she has no real counter to False Darkness, nor Pressure Damage.

[ItachiStyle]

I can speculate about Mei's powers too, but again, you can't prop Kakuzu powers he doesn't demonstrate because it is convenient to you.

you act like he couldnt dodge the dragon picture this an iron skin punch right to the dragons mouth im guessing would stop it

Kakuzu dodging attacks of this scale certainly isn't something he has shown he can do, nor would it be easy for anyone. And the idea he will stop a giant water dragon attack (which hurled Madara's Susanoo a hundred or so feet into the air) by punching it in the mouth is beyond laughable. This isn't the Avengers, and Kakuzu isn't Hulk... plus the Dragon's made of freaking water. Once Kakuzu is trapped in the water pressure he'll start to drown, and will struggle to complete any jutsu, and as his body bounces around from one rocky surface to the other, Mei will just wait for an opening and melt him with a giant lava blast. End fight.

Kakuzu's attacks are irrelevant, because none of them is on the scale of the Water Dragon, which means they will be tossed aside in the face of the Water Dragon (along with him), especially since he demonstrates no attacks or defences which would slow down the Water Dragon (rock skin will help protect him from the impact, but it won't stop the dragon tossing him hundreds of feet through the air like a doll).

[zexion333]

I can speculate about Mei's powers too, but again, you can't prop Kakuzu powers he doesn't demonstrate because it is convenient to you.


Kakuzu dodging attacks of this scale certainly isn't something he has shown he can do, nor would it be easy for anyone. And the idea he will stop a giant water dragon attack (which hurled Madara's Susanoo a hundred or so feet into the air) by punching it in the mouth is beyond laughable. This isn't the Avengers, and Kakuzu isn't Hulk... plus the Dragon's made of freaking water. Once Kakuzu is trapped in the water pressure he'll start to drown, and will struggle to complete any jutsu, and as his body bounces around from one rocky surface to the other, Mei will just wait for an opening and melt him with a giant lava blast. End fight.

Kakuzu's attacks are irrelevant, because none of them is on the scale of the Water Dragon, which means they will be tossed aside in the face of the Water Dragon (along with him), especially since he demonstrates no attacks or defences which would slow down the Water Dragon (rock skin will help protect him from the impact, but it won't stop the dragon tossing him hundreds of feet through the air like a doll).

YES ITS LIKE THE WATER DRAGON JUTSU IM AWARE OF WHAT ITS MADE OF which kakuzu could easily cut through it with his lightning type blade which the lightning heart can use and the threads coming out of kakuzus body is part of a forbidden jutsu called earth grunge fear which is an earth style and kakuzu is fast HE CAN TRAVEL AROUND AT LEAST 20 METERS IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE mei is strong but kakuzu wins im done arguing theres no point people hate too admit defeat

[ItachiStyle]

Mei is sufficiently skilled at fighting to stave off 5 of Madara's Wood Clones using Susanoo. I'm not seeing her having trouble keeping up with fricking Kakuzu, a guy plenty of fodder nin have been able to keep up with. Lightning "cuts" water... good one... Kakuzu can tell it to the tidal wave sized attack hurling him around.

[zexion333]

sigh kakuzu wins you just dont get it do you EARTH STYLE IDIOT or he could hide his arm underground it emerges and uppercuts mei in the face so many ways for kakuzu to win so little time good day sir kakuzu wins this fight mei has 2 supporters kakuzu has around 6

[ItachiStyle]

The range of Kakuzu's "earth uppercut" is shown to be pretty small. Mei has kage level fighting prowess (enough to stave off 5 Wood Madara Clones with Susanoo), so she should be fine to hold her own with basic dodging, etc, and we've seen Kakuzu get tagged/taken out by lots of fodder shinobi with no special skills to speak of, so the idea he's going to dance around Mei while she looks on helplessly is pretty silly. Meanwhile she has attacks like Water Dragon that Kakuzu will be owned by, and which are far bigger and more powerful than his own attacks. No good reasons for Kakuzu have been given.

[Kurama04]

Lava is the combination of Earth and fire. So fire can beat lava right...

[ItachiStyle]

Lava is the combination of Earth and fire. So fire can beat fire right...

The elemental balance sheet goes out the window with the advanced blood limit elements. This is one reason advanced elements are so useful. If you've got fire, the enemy knows to counter with water... if you've got Lava or Corrosive Gas? There is no particular counter. It doesn't hurt that it can't be copied, and blood limits are very rare, meaning your techs will be both unknown, and more difficult to work out counters for.

[secretworker12]

Lame....Kakuzu takes this

[zexion333]

The range of Kakuzu's "earth uppercut" is shown to be pretty small. Mei has kage level fighting prowess (enough to stave off 5 Wood Madara Clones with Susanoo), so she should be fine to hold her own with basic dodging, etc, and we've seen Kakuzu get tagged/taken out by lots of fodder shinobi with no special skills to speak of, so the idea he's going to dance around Mei while she looks on helplessly is pretty silly. Meanwhile she has attacks like Water Dragon that Kakuzu will be owned by, and which are far bigger and more powerful than his own attacks. No good reasons for Kakuzu have been given.

Its range is unlimited ? it has its on heart it can go as far as it needs to? 0.o

[ItachiStyle]

It's range is unlimited once it splits off from his body... at which point it's no longer going to take Mei by surprise... not that it matters since Kakuzu is going to be reeling moments into the fight, and down several masks in no time. He'll probably have lost 2-3 hearts before he even has time to split.

[Penguin2640]

Really? Sasuke didnt breathe the mist he was in sasunno the lava was to block the exit not hit sasuke. Water beats earth she can combine acid mist with her suitions to beat his combos or lava combine with suition to make a wall or a barrier

This is not pokemon. Earth > Water in Naruto.

[ItachiStyle]

Earth only beats water when the 2 attacks have comparable Chakra. Call me when Kakuzu has an attack remotely on the scale of Water Dragon, let alone with his Earth jutsu (which shows exactly one defensive tech, one that does nothing to stop Water Dragon, just to protect his body as he's battened around the battlefield like a doll. Nor does Earth Spear let him breath underwater as he's being drowned).

[Neutra1 Knight]

Mei wins this

[zexion333]

Earth only beats water when the 2 attacks have comparable Chakra. Call me when Kakuzu has an attack remotely on the scale of Water Dragon, let alone with his Earth jutsu (which shows exactly one defensive tech, one that does nothing to stop Water Dragon, just to protect his body as he's battened around the battlefield like a doll. Nor does Earth Spear let him breath underwater as he's being drowned).

see post on other thread

[ItachiStyle]

It wasn't much of a response. Feel free to go read me pointing out why.

[Hyugaaa]

Kakuzu takes this. Mid-diff

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Mei wins, high diff. Her jutsus are on a different level the Kakuzu's.

['Ray]

Her jutsus are on a different level the Kakuzu's.

we would love to see an explanation....

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

we would love to see an explanation....

The manga is my explanation.