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    Re: Do Not Underestimate Uchiha Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Uzumaki Sasuke View Post
    Inever said that Madara was afraid of Obito. Obito did what Madara was afraid to do proving he was by far braver than Madara
    how does that make him brave??? if he was brave he would have finished the fight with minato. he gets brave when he has edo madara and the jubi now all of a sudden he wants to join in on the main battlefield lol come on man
     
         

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    Re: Do Not Underestimate Uchiha Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi Rane View Post
    Well.....obito was badass as long as he was wearing the mask....but nowadays he's being way tpo EMO and impatient about everything, always talking about dream world, infinite tsukuyomi, trash blah blah.....he is strong but he somehow is losing control over himself....i still don't know how good is his mokuton....but i think it's not as powerful as that of hashirama or even madara......and his space time techs have been figured out by kakashi......he can use his rinnegan but that would drain him of his chakra in huge amounts......but obito being the main antagonist, if he somehow becomes the jinchuuriki of ypthe juubi then maybe he can take down the alliance.....
    Nice analysis. But killer bee said 'Be careful! His Mokuton is as strong as Hashirama's' check it and see. They never said that about Madara's wood
     
         

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    Re: Do Not Underestimate Uchiha Obito

    Out of all the angles people take to bash a character, this "stolen power" thing has to be one of the worst, especially in this manga.

    I agree that Obito is supposed to represent a counter to Naruto. Both of them dreamed of the future and protecting their friends throughout their childhood. But fate such as Madara's words have changed Obito into more of a realist that would gladly put down the free will of humanity if that means everybody can live a world without pain and suffering. The scene seems to be set for Naruto vs. Obito, and not just in strength but also in words as well. Heck Naruto was losing the verbal battle once Neji died. He needed the help of his friends for support, which isn't a bad thing since it goes along with his philosophy.

    These panels help expand on it too



    Now Obito can't take credit for everything like the Plan now, but he's still a key piece to the story. If Obito's opinions disagree from Madara's, something's bound to happen.
     
         

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    Re: Do Not Underestimate Uchiha Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Kichiro Fujimoto View Post
    I agree to disagree. Without Madara, Obito wouldn't get to far in the plan. Madara was just the building block of the house [in the Eyeof Moon Plan]. Obito just fancy it up. >_>
    I acknowledge Madara's contribution but it seems like no one is giving Obito any credit here. He was the one who actually 'did' everything Madara envisioned
     
         

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    Re: Do Not Underestimate Uchiha Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Liquid Snake View Post
    how did minato beat him then sir????
    You have a point...but yes...obito didn't use mokuton against minato, he was still inexperienced compared to minato who was the hokage then, he was already using up his chakra to control the nine tails so it was already quite troublesome for him to deal with minato alongside controlling kurama......so there you go....like currently since obito was so busy controlling the juubi with mokuton, he never could use his space time techs......because he is already engaged in doing a tougher task....
     
         

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    Re: Do Not Underestimate Uchiha Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Uzumaki Sasuke View Post
    Firstly, Obito was still much young and with little experience when he fought Minato and secondly, Obito didn't have the Rinnegan and his paths when he lost to Minato and thirdy, Minato won the fight but Obito won the overall battle. In the end who died?
    minato killed hisself to seal the Kyuubi fool. and obito needs to steal and eye to get a power up if u give minato a piece of kurama's chakra to make it even. Minato kills him again. and age doesnt matter look at Kakuza and naruto.
     
         

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    Re: Do Not Underestimate Uchiha Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Liquid Snake View Post
    how does that make him brave??? if he was brave he would have finished the fight with minato. he gets brave when he has edo madara and the jubi now all of a sudden he wants to join in on the main battlefield lol come on man
    You don't get it? Obito was still sure that Minato could not defeat Kyubi if they fought head on. He wanted to see what Minato would do against Kyuubi and as he expected, Minato still died
     
         

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    Re: Do Not Underestimate Uchiha Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi Rane View Post
    You have a point...but yes...obito didn't use mokuton against minato, he was still inexperienced compared to minato who was the hokage then, he was already using up his chakra to control the nine tails so it was already quite troublesome for him to deal with minato alongside controlling kurama......so there you go....like currently since obito was so busy controlling the juubi with mokuton, he never could use his space time techs......because he is already engaged in doing a tougher task....
    Actually you are partly wrong. Obito made naruto's rasen shuriken pass through him while he was controlling the juubi
     
         

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    Re: Do Not Underestimate Uchiha Obito

    Eh, he's pretty strong.
     
         

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    Re: Do Not Underestimate Uchiha Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Liquid Snake View Post
    minato killed hisself to seal the Kyuubi fool. and obito needs to steal and eye to get a power up if u give minato a piece of kurama's chakra to make it even. Minato kills him again. and age doesnt matter look at Kakuza and naruto.
    Why did Minato have to kill himself huh? Because OBITO summoned Kyubi. If it wasn't for Obito Minato would have been alive isn't it? Obito caused Minato's death. He MADE him die indirectly. And if getting an eye is his way of gettin power then so be it. He is smart enpugh to stock up on good eyes. Minato cannot control kyubi's chakra. He hasn't even had a chance to train how to control it. He'll just go on a rampage
     
         

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    Re: Do Not Underestimate Uchiha Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi Rane View Post
    You have a point...but yes...obito didn't use mokuton against minato, he was still inexperienced compared to minato who was the hokage then, he was already using up his chakra to control the nine tails so it was already quite troublesome for him to deal with minato alongside controlling kurama......so there you go....like currently since obito was so busy controlling the juubi with mokuton, he never could use his space time techs......because he is already engaged in doing a tougher task....
    he was moving around freely when he had the nine tails he even tried to distract minato by having the 9 tails atk with th Tbb so that wasnt an issue and and he used his S/T techs thru the whole fight. and minato task was tougher seeing he had to fight obito the 9 tails and protect the village. and madara didnt use PS on Hashi and lost does that mean he was inexperienced and should have won that fight?
     
         

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    Re: Do Not Underestimate Uchiha Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Uzumaki Sasuke View Post
    I acknowledge Madara's contribution but it seems like no one is giving Obito any credit here. He was the one who actually 'did' everything Madara envisioned
    Who formed the akatsuki and manipulated someone as powerful as nagato? Obito. Madara only told him "kid, this is limbo, fill it with your dreams by collecting the bijuu" madara gave him the idea. But implementing an idea is even harder......and that's what obito did and he came this far, the dude practically started a world war just by using the fear factor in the name he assumed and manipulated the entire ninja world using the game of bluff! He is very much like the Joker of The Dark Knight......he is the real amstermind.....he trolled the 5 kages, brought sasuke under his control inspite of itachi's efforts.....the guy deserves a LOT of credit.....he is the real deal and has always been the real deal....
     
         

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    Re: Do Not Underestimate Uchiha Obito

    I am going to underestimate the fu*k out of Obito and there is nothing you can do about it.
     
         

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    Re: Do Not Underestimate Uchiha Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Liquid Snake View Post
    he was moving around freely when he had the nine tails he even tried to distract minato by having the 9 tails atk with th Tbb so that wasnt an issue and and he used his S/T techs thru the whole fight. and minato task was tougher seeing he had to fight obito the 9 tails and protect the village. and madara didnt use PS on Hashi and lost does that mean he was inexperienced and should have won that fight?
    Did you watch Madara and Hashirama's fight? How do you know he didn't use Perfect Susano'o? Please stop saying rubbish. Obitodidn't actually want to kill Minato. Just distracth him or suck him into his world if possible. He didn't even use wood against Minato and he was inexperienced
     
         

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    Re: Do Not Underestimate Uchiha Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Lentz View Post
    I am going to underestimate the fu*k out of Obito and there is nothing you can do about it.
    Please be my guest. As long as you got the message and understand it.
     
         

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    Re: Do Not Underestimate Uchiha Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Liquid Snake View Post
    he was moving around freely when he had the nine tails he even tried to distract minato by having the 9 tails atk with th Tbb so that wasnt an issue and and he used his S/T techs thru the whole fight. and minato task was tougher seeing he had to fight obito the 9 tails and protect the village. and madara didnt use PS on Hashi and lost does that mean he was inexperienced and should have won that fight?
    I didn't say minato was in a better situation....obviously not, he had to protect his child, stop kyuubi, protect his village....hats off to him for what he's done, no wonder he is the genius out there...i'm just saying why obito lost....and he lost because he didn't have experience, and YES he became a lot overconfident and minato was at that time stronger than him, plus he was controlling the nine tails using his sharingan.......
     
         

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    Re: Do Not Underestimate Uchiha Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by itachi rane View Post
    who formed the akatsuki and manipulated someone as powerful as nagato? Obito. Madara only told him "kid, this is limbo, fill it with your dreams by collecting the bijuu" madara gave him the idea. But implementing an idea is even harder......and that's what obito did and he came this far, the dude practically started a world war just by using the fear factor in the name he assumed and manipulated the entire ninja world using the game of bluff! He is very much like the joker of the dark knight......he is the real amstermind.....he trolled the 5 kages, brought sasuke under his control inspite of itachi's efforts.....the guy deserves a lot of credit.....he is the real deal and has always been the real deal....
    exactly what i'm saying^
     
         

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    Re: Do Not Underestimate Uchiha Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Uzumaki Sasuke View Post
    Why did Minato have to kill himself huh? Because OBITO summoned Kyubi. If it wasn't for Obito Minato would have been alive isn't it? Obito caused Minato's death. He MADE him die indirectly. And if getting an eye is his way of gettin power then so be it. He is smart enpugh to stock up on good eyes. Minato cannot control kyubi's chakra. He hasn't even had a chance to train how to control it. He'll just go on a rampage
    he killed himself to save his son and his village the nine tails is very strong did u see when he fought pain fool and all obito had to do was use his eyes to control the Kyuubi and thats sum bs. and can u tell me anyone besides naruto that can control the 9 tails? oh i didnt think so not even madara can control him without using his eyes. plus minato isnt from a special clan he doesnt need other ppls body parts and he doesnt need to use tailed beasts to fight. sorry obito fanboy
     
         

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    Re: Do Not Underestimate Uchiha Obito

    Only thing Obito has are the freaking Bijuus and Juubi

    If it wasn't for them he would have been long gone
     
         

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    Re: Do Not Underestimate Uchiha Obito

    Quote Originally Posted by Uzumaki Sasuke View Post
    Did you watch Madara and Hashirama's fight? How do you know he didn't use Perfect Susano'o? Please stop saying rubbish. Obitodidn't actually want to kill Minato. Just distracth him or suck him into his world if possible. He didn't even use wood against Minato and he was inexperienced
    how do u know he was inexperienced guy if it didnt show if he trained or not? and how can u be inexperienced when he trained under minato therefore knows all his moves (like Oro and Hiruzen and Sasuke and Kakashi) if anyone was inexperienced it would be minato he knew nuthin about obito's S/T jutsu but still kicked his ass
     
         

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