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    Re: Mei and Tsunade vs Kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by Danzo Auditore De Firenze View Post
    Killer B couldn't use his full transformation in that fight and even without it Kisame struggled, so I wouldn't call it a rape.
    ya he couldnt use it cause kisame is that bad ass ? you cant use a lot of chakra on kisame hence the no transformation into the tailed or kisame would of been all powerful
     
         

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    Re: Mei and Tsunade vs Kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by Danzo Auditore De Firenze View Post
    Killer B couldn't use his full transformation in that fight and even without it Kisame struggled, so I wouldn't call it a rape.
    Tailed beasts are chakra-based entities. One Suiton Daikodan would of solo'd a fully transformed Bee.
     
         

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    Re: Mei and Tsunade vs Kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by Danzo Auditore De Firenze View Post
    Killer B couldn't use his full transformation in that fight and even without it Kisame struggled, so I wouldn't call it a rape.
    Really, the only reason Kisame struggled was due to Samehada betraying him. He was in control the whole time, and would even have won after Samehada left if A wouldn't have arrived.

    And he was most certainly able to do it, it simply wouldn't have been wise as it would have been countered by the GSB. I'm not sure why Bee didn't try it, as he didn't know of that technique, but if he would have, it would only have ended up in Kisame returning him to his base form.
     
         

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    Re: Mei and Tsunade vs Kisame

    It's only common sense that Kisame takes this.
     
         

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    Re: Mei and Tsunade vs Kisame

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    We're here to debate , not to doubt.
    Fuuton > Raiton.
    Rasenshuriken > Kirin.

    Fire < Water.
    Madara's katon <Mei dragon.

    Water >=< Water
    Kisame's suiton> Mei's suiton.

    Madara's Katon: Gōka Mekkyaku overwelmed about a dozen fodders Suiton. I can't rememeber what Katon Mei beat, but Im sure she can't counter Madara's Mekkyaku
     
         

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    Re: Mei and Tsunade vs Kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by DemonicAvenger View Post
    Madara's Katon: Gōka Mekkyaku overwelmed about a dozen fodders Suiton. I can't rememeber what Katon Mei beat, but Im sure she can't counter Madara's Mekkyaku
    Mei uses the Suiton on a different scale than those fodders. For now, Mei is the 2nd or 3rd best Suiton user in the manga.
     
         

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    Re: Mei and Tsunade vs Kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by TheEvilOne View Post
    Mei uses the Suiton on a different scale than those fodders. For now, Mei is the 2nd or 3rd best Suiton user in the manga.
    Zabuza's Suiton: Suiryūdan no Jutsu was on the same scale as Mei's, you should also know that those fodders were around Jonin/Chunin level. Im sure a dozen or so of them can match the weakest Kage's Sution. Especially when Zabuza alone was capable of the same thing.

    and if we exclude her KKG which arn't purely Suiton. Kisame by feats is miles ahead of her. Tobirama by hype is ahead of her. Zabuza by feats is better. Kakashi by feats is better. Maybe even Itachi.
     
         

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    Re: Mei and Tsunade vs Kisame

    As of right now I feel like it might go either way..
     
         

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    Re: Mei and Tsunade vs Kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by -6 Paths- View Post
    :lmao:

    Since when does chakra control help you to swim fast ? And how would Lava help in water ?

    It seems that you're forgetting that Kisame is an AKATSUKI, and not only that, he's the Akatsuki that raped Killer Bee like it was nothing.
    about to derail the thread lol. Killer Bee>Kisame if he went all out in his full biju mode.
     
         

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    Re: Mei and Tsunade vs Kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by shyarkugan View Post
    about to derail the thread lol. Killer Bee>Kisame if he went all out in his full biju mode.
    Not really...Like NK pointed out, TB's are nothing but pure chakra, meaning that GSB would definitely take care of them.
     
         

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    Re: Mei and Tsunade vs Kisame

    Killer Bee > Kisame without a doubt.
     
         

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    Re: Mei and Tsunade vs Kisame

    kisame>any jinchuriki that relies on their tailed beasts chakra .*caugh caugh all of them*
     
         

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    Re: Mei and Tsunade vs Kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by zexion333 View Post
    kisame>any jinchuriki that relies on their tailed beasts chakra .*caugh caugh all of them*
    Lmao, Naruto does beat him though
     
         

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    Re: Mei and Tsunade vs Kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by -6 Paths- View Post
    Lmao, Naruto does beat him though
    who doesnt naruto beat
     
         

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    Re: Mei and Tsunade vs Kisame

    I didn't even say I was going with the girls per se... but I am explaining they can get out of the water dome. It is not the "check mate" people here are claiming it is.
     
         

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    Re: Mei and Tsunade vs Kisame

    Kisame low-diff.
     
         

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    Re: Mei and Tsunade vs Kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by Negative Knight View Post
    Kisame mid difficulty. Low if he fuses with Samehada straight off the bat.
    :rofl: Explain, now. :rofl:

    Kisame's overatedness never ceases to amaze me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Forbidden Technique View Post
    It's only common sense that Kisame takes this.
    It's only common sense that two Kage can beat someone who lost to a Jonin :sy:
     
         
    Last edited by Kages; 02-03-2013 at 10:34 PM.

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    Re: Mei and Tsunade vs Kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by Kages View Post
    :rofl: Explain, now. :rofl:

    Kisame's overatedness never ceases to amaze me.



    It's only common sense that two Kage can beat someone who lost to a Jonin :sy:
    There's absolutely nothing that needs to be said other than GSB and Water Dome. Neither of the Kage has any counter to these techs.
     
         

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    Re: Mei and Tsunade vs Kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by -6 Paths- View Post
    There's absolutely nothing that needs to be said other than GSB and Water Dome. Neither of the Kage has any counter to these techs.
    Like I said before, I don't see why Tsunade can't swim up a little, then summon Katsuyu. Katsuyu would get her and Mei out of the water, and then Mei will use Boil Release inside the war so Kisame boils up and melts. He would have to get rid of the water in their favor, or melt inside the water. Remember he can't get out of the water because it follows him wherever it goes.
     
         

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    Re: Mei and Tsunade vs Kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by Kages View Post
    Like I said before, I don't see why Tsunade can't swim up a little, then summon Katsuyu. Katsuyu would get her and Mei out of the water, and then Mei will use Boil Release inside the war so Kisame boils up and melts. He would have to get rid of the water in their favor, or melt inside the water. Remember he can't get out of the water because it follows him wherever it goes.
    I don't get it, how do you suggest she get's them out of the water ?

    And yeah, Boil Release isn't going to work inside water, it's a gas based move.

    Not to mention the fact that you still haven't countered the GSB Bullet.
     
         

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    Re: Mei and Tsunade vs Kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by -6 Paths- View Post
    I don't get it, how do you suggest she get's them out of the water ?

    And yeah, Boil Release isn't going to work inside water, it's a gas based move.

    Not to mention the fact that you still haven't countered the GSB Bullet.
    Katsuyu is large enough for them to get out of the water if they swim up a little..

    Boil Release does work in the water, how do you think spaghetti boils? In water

    I will counter GSB when I'm finished with Water Dome, geez calm down :D
     
         

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    Re: Mei and Tsunade vs Kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by Kages View Post
    Katsuyu is large enough for them to get out of the water if they swim up a little..

    Boil Release does work in the water, how do you think spaghetti boils? In water

    I will counter GSB when I'm finished with Water Dome, geez calm down :D
    To prevent her from even being able to summon them, or do anything for that matter, he could use this jutsu [1] I also shouldn't have to remind you just how much of a disadvantage the kage are at when Kisame goes Fusion Mode.

    And Mei wouldn't have the power to boil the whole dome, do you even know how big that thing is ?
     
         

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    Re: Mei and Tsunade vs Kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by -6 Paths- View Post
    To prevent her from even being able to summon them, or do anything for that matter, he could use this jutsu [1] I also shouldn't have to remind you just how much of a disadvantage the kage are at when Kisame goes Fusion Mode.

    And Mei wouldn't have the power to boil the whole dome, do you even know how big that thing is ?
    With Tsunade's chakra it would be easier then you think.
     
         

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    Re: Mei and Tsunade vs Kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by -6 Paths- View Post
    To prevent her from even being able to summon them, or do anything for that matter, he could use this jutsu [1] I also shouldn't have to remind you just how much of a disadvantage the kage are at when Kisame goes Fusion Mode.

    And Mei wouldn't have the power to boil the whole dome, do you even know how big that thing is ?
    To prevent the 1000 shark jutsu, Tsunade should keep using Heavenly Kick of Pain to stop them from coming near her. Mei can use the boil shield, like she did when Zetsu was trying to absorb chakra from her to prevent the sharks from attacking her. Also don't forget it only takes Tsunade 5 hand seals to summon while it takes Kisame a while to summon that many sharks, and don't forget Tsunade has a 4 in hand seals in the databook, so it shouldn't take her very long to make five hand seals. Fusion mode only makes him go faster and a couple of other things.

    Mei would just to boil the part where Kisame is (the middle) and if she doesn't have enough chakra, Tsunade can give her some with Byakugou. I mean do you know how much chakra she gave Onoki? Also, if Kisame tries any attack, Tsunade will heal via Byakugou and heal Mei.
     
         
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    Re: Mei and Tsunade vs Kisame

    Quote Originally Posted by Slug Princess Tsunade View Post
    With Tsunade's chakra it would be easier then you think.
    She'd have to be touching Mei in order to do that, meaning that she'd have to be standing next to something that's apparently hot enough to be able to boil up something as large as this [1]...

    Even with healing techs, the only thing that could possibly happen would be Kisame ending the technique, and recreating another one while Tsunade is lying burnt on the ground after having wasted a crapload of chakra. That counter would take a lot larger toll on Tsunade and Mei than it would Kisame, as he could simply dispel the technique whenever he likes, and as I said, make a new one, resulting in Tsunade and Mei having to go through the same process all over again from the start.
     
         

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