Mei and Tsunade vs Kisame

[Izuna Kakashi Senju]

Kisame mid-high diff, when he fuses with Samehada he is too powerful plus he is the fastest character underwater.

[Danzo Auditore De Firenze]

:lmao:

Since when does chakra control help you to swim fast ? And how would Lava help in water ?

It seems that you're forgetting that Kisame is an AKATSUKI, and not only that, he's the Akatsuki that raped Killer Bee like it was nothing.

Killer B couldn't use his full transformation in that fight and even without it Kisame struggled, so I wouldn't call it a rape.

[zexion333]

Killer B couldn't use his full transformation in that fight and even without it Kisame struggled, so I wouldn't call it a rape.

ya he couldnt use it cause kisame is that bad ass ? you cant use a lot of chakra on kisame hence the no transformation into the tailed or kisame would of been all powerful

[Negative Knight]

Killer B couldn't use his full transformation in that fight and even without it Kisame struggled, so I wouldn't call it a rape.

Tailed beasts are chakra-based entities. One Suiton Daikodan would of solo'd a fully transformed Bee.

[-6 Paths-]

Killer B couldn't use his full transformation in that fight and even without it Kisame struggled, so I wouldn't call it a rape.

Really, the only reason Kisame struggled was due to Samehada betraying him. He was in control the whole time, and would even have won after Samehada left if A wouldn't have arrived.

And he was most certainly able to do it, it simply wouldn't have been wise as it would have been countered by the GSB. I'm not sure why Bee didn't try it, as he didn't know of that technique, but if he would have, it would only have ended up in Kisame returning him to his base form.

[Forbidden Technique]

It's only common sense that Kisame takes this.

[DemonicAvenger]

We're here to debate , not to doubt.
Fuuton > Raiton.
Rasenshuriken > Kirin.

Fire < Water.
Madara's katon <Mei dragon.

Water >=< Water
Kisame's suiton> Mei's suiton.

Madara's Katon: Gōka Mekkyaku overwelmed about a dozen fodders Suiton. I can't rememeber what Katon Mei beat, but Im sure she can't counter Madara's Mekkyaku

[TheEvilOne]

Madara's Katon: Gōka Mekkyaku overwelmed about a dozen fodders Suiton. I can't rememeber what Katon Mei beat, but Im sure she can't counter Madara's Mekkyaku

Mei uses the Suiton on a different scale than those fodders. For now, Mei is the 2nd or 3rd best Suiton user in the manga.

[DemonicAvenger]

Mei uses the Suiton on a different scale than those fodders. For now, Mei is the 2nd or 3rd best Suiton user in the manga.

Zabuza's Suiton: Suiryūdan no Jutsu was on the same scale as Mei's, you should also know that those fodders were around Jonin/Chunin level. Im sure a dozen or so of them can match the weakest Kage's Sution. Especially when Zabuza alone was capable of the same thing.

and if we exclude her KKG which arn't purely Suiton. Kisame by feats is miles ahead of her. Tobirama by hype is ahead of her. Zabuza by feats is better. Kakashi by feats is better. Maybe even Itachi.

[dkdankong]

As of right now I feel like it might go either way..

[shyarkugan]

:lmao:

Since when does chakra control help you to swim fast ? And how would Lava help in water ?

It seems that you're forgetting that Kisame is an AKATSUKI, and not only that, he's the Akatsuki that raped Killer Bee like it was nothing.

about to derail the thread lol. Killer Bee>Kisame if he went all out in his full biju mode.

[-6 Paths-]

about to derail the thread lol. Killer Bee>Kisame if he went all out in his full biju mode.

Not really...Like NK pointed out, TB's are nothing but pure chakra, meaning that GSB would definitely take care of them.

[DemonicAvenger]

Killer Bee > Kisame without a doubt.

[zexion333]

kisame>any jinchuriki that relies on their tailed beasts chakra .*caugh caugh all of them*

[-6 Paths-]

kisame>any jinchuriki that relies on their tailed beasts chakra .*caugh caugh all of them*

Lmao, Naruto does beat him though

[zexion333]

Lmao, Naruto does beat him though

who doesnt naruto beat

[ItachiStyle]

I didn't even say I was going with the girls per se... but I am explaining they can get out of the water dome. It is not the "check mate" people here are claiming it is.

[BigBlade Master]

Kisame low-diff.

[Kages]

Kisame mid difficulty. Low if he fuses with Samehada straight off the bat.

:rofl: Explain, now. :rofl:

Kisame's overatedness never ceases to amaze me.

It's only common sense that Kisame takes this.

It's only common sense that two Kage can beat someone who lost to a Jonin

[-6 Paths-]

:rofl: Explain, now. :rofl:

Kisame's overatedness never ceases to amaze me.



It's only common sense that two Kage can beat someone who lost to a Jonin

There's absolutely nothing that needs to be said other than GSB and Water Dome. Neither of the Kage has any counter to these techs.

[Kages]

There's absolutely nothing that needs to be said other than GSB and Water Dome. Neither of the Kage has any counter to these techs.

Like I said before, I don't see why Tsunade can't swim up a little, then summon Katsuyu. Katsuyu would get her and Mei out of the water, and then Mei will use Boil Release inside the war so Kisame boils up and melts. He would have to get rid of the water in their favor, or melt inside the water. Remember he can't get out of the water because it follows him wherever it goes.

[-6 Paths-]

Like I said before, I don't see why Tsunade can't swim up a little, then summon Katsuyu. Katsuyu would get her and Mei out of the water, and then Mei will use Boil Release inside the war so Kisame boils up and melts. He would have to get rid of the water in their favor, or melt inside the water. Remember he can't get out of the water because it follows him wherever it goes.

I don't get it, how do you suggest she get's them out of the water ?

And yeah, Boil Release isn't going to work inside water, it's a gas based move.

Not to mention the fact that you still haven't countered the GSB Bullet.

[Kages]

I don't get it, how do you suggest she get's them out of the water ?

And yeah, Boil Release isn't going to work inside water, it's a gas based move.

Not to mention the fact that you still haven't countered the GSB Bullet.

Katsuyu is large enough for them to get out of the water if they swim up a little..

Boil Release does work in the water, how do you think spaghetti boils? In water

I will counter GSB when I'm finished with Water Dome, geez calm down :D

[-6 Paths-]

Katsuyu is large enough for them to get out of the water if they swim up a little..

Boil Release does work in the water, how do you think spaghetti boils? In water

I will counter GSB when I'm finished with Water Dome, geez calm down :D

To prevent her from even being able to summon them, or do anything for that matter, he could use this jutsu [1] I also shouldn't have to remind you just how much of a disadvantage the kage are at when Kisame goes Fusion Mode.

And Mei wouldn't have the power to boil the whole dome, do you even know how big that thing is ?

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

To prevent her from even being able to summon them, or do anything for that matter, he could use this jutsu [1] I also shouldn't have to remind you just how much of a disadvantage the kage are at when Kisame goes Fusion Mode.

And Mei wouldn't have the power to boil the whole dome, do you even know how big that thing is ?

With Tsunade's chakra it would be easier then you think.