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    What are YOU? Pick your side wisely

    Naruto is divided into 2 side politically, and to make it easier i'll call it Hashiramanism vs Madaranism. The ideas of these 2 have conflicted against each other and over the course have caused battles between brothers , friends, teacher and students, and families. One can basically say the ideas of these 2 represent Democracy and understanding (little communism) vs Dictatorship (Not communism).


    So I will elaborate on these 2 Ideas through the following sections. And then you will have to decide which side you support. Are you a follower of Hashiramanism OR Madaranism?


    Hashiramanism:


    If you haven't already predicted it, Hashiramanism is basically the ideas Hashirama believed in. A peaceful world full of understanding. Only use force when NECESSARY.

    The main ideas of his belief and why he formed Konoha:

    - A place where every clan (race in Naruto) gets along

    - A place where people understand each other, and don't hold grudges
    - Peace that can be made through simple understanding between countries.
    - Forcing isn't the best way, instead spread Love, understand, learn, enjoy life without hurting others, and FORGIVENESS


    These beliefs drive Hashirama throughout his life. Basically led to the creation of the Will of Fire (his philosophy). He displays this against his father:

    Then he showed Madara forgiveness and understanding. He believed that understanding was the best way for peace. And he was willing to give up his life for it.



    So overall, this is Hashiramanism and the following characters have expressed it the best:

    - SO6P
    - Jiraiya
    - Naruto
    - Gaara
    - Kakashi


    Madaranism:


    Can be best expressed as, dictatorship type. Madara believed that 1 person controlling the world into a genjutsu or basically a controlled society is the best for peace. And individuals just cause hatred and so on.

    He has been through many hardships throughout his life, seeing the death of his younger brothers, comrades and so on. You can assume why he feels that way. Madara's focus is that POWER will make peace in the end, because humans simply can't understand each other.


    His main belief:
    - Power is the only way to get peace, if one controls the world he can achieve true peace.



    - Believed Hashirama's ideals were naive.

    The people who expressed Madaranism the best are :

    - Danzo
    - Hanzo
    - Obito
    - Nagato before he changed

    So this is Madaranism summarized.


    YOUR CHOICE
    Its your choice now on which one to pick. Is it going to be Hashiramanism? OR Madaranism? PICK WISELY AND DISCUSS WHY THAT ONE IS BETTER THEN THE OTHER!!!!!!
     
         
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    Re: What are YOU? Pick your side wisely

    Which ever character you don't like
     
         

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    Team Edward (lol)

    I love how Madara gets a little paragraph and Hashirama gets an essay. Fanboyism at it's finest..
     
         

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    Re: What are YOU? Pick your side wisely

    Why would danzo side with madara. He did things the way he saw best for the village.
     
         

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    Re: What are YOU? Pick your side wisely

    I'd rather be Hyuugan. Be the balance of everything, listen to both spectrums objectively, and stay out of the affairs of either side.

    Something else about branding the branch family with curses in there, but we'll get to that later.
     
         

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    Re: What are YOU? Pick your side wisely

    Quote Originally Posted by FreakensteinAG View Post
    I'd rather be Hyuugan. Be the balance of everything, listen to both spectrums objectively, and stay out of the affairs of either side.

    Something else about branding the branch family with curses in there, but we'll get to that later.
    Hah, this!
     
         

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    Hiruzenism, thats all i need on the base.
     
         

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    Re: What are YOU? Pick your side wisely

    Don't know. I'm leaning towards Hashirama's stance a bit more out of the two. But I also take to account that people will never understand another. Personally, I go with the belief that both love and power together in a sense if peace were to happen.
     
         

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    Uzumaki clan has always supported the Senju!! We believe in their leadership as they share our way of life!!
     
         

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    Re: What are YOU? Pick your side wisely

    Quote Originally Posted by Supreme x Uchiha View Post
    Team Edward (lol)

    I love how Madara gets a little paragraph and Hashirama gets an essay. Fanboyism at it's finest..
    Because there wasn't really that much to elaborate on Madara.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sparda777 View Post
    Why would danzo side with madara. He did things the way he saw best for the village.
    Actually wrong, Danzo sought to be Hokage , no matter if the village was destroyed or not (shown in Pain arc). He himself wanted to be the dictator (Also shown at kage summit). Madara is doing dictatorship because he believes that is best for the world.. Danzo is doing that on a smaller scale.

    Quote Originally Posted by FreakensteinAG View Post
    I'd rather be Hyuugan. Be the balance of everything, listen to both spectrums objectively, and stay out of the affairs of either side.

    Something else about branding the branch family with curses in there, but we'll get to that later.
    Hyuuga = followers of will of fire = Followers of Hashirama. o-o lol.
     
         

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    Re: What are YOU? Pick your side wisely

    Neither, a peaceful world is very hard to live in, the shinobi system would crumble. A destructive world is just as bad, except that the shinobi will be destroying themselves.
     
         

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    Re: What are YOU? Pick your side wisely

    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha Riyo View Post
    Neither, a peaceful world is very hard to live in, the shinobi system would crumble. A destructive world is just as bad, except that the shinobi will be destroying themselves.
    Being a ninja isn't about war, but about bringing peace in Naruto:

     
         

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    Re: What are YOU? Pick your side wisely

    Quote Originally Posted by Supreme x Uchiha View Post
    Team Edward (lol)

    I love how Madara gets a little paragraph and Hashirama gets an essay. Fanboyism at it's finest..
    ^ Team Jacob.


    I'm Narutoism. I believe in the almighty Frog, eating ramen everyday for a living, and striving for my goals and dreams. Yup, that's the stuff.
     
         

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    <------ism
     
         

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    Re: What are YOU? Pick your side wisely

    madaraism.

    that fact that madaranism exists disproves Hashiramanism
     
         

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    im going to ichiraku's ramen shop.. this political bullshit is over the top!! :D
     
         

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    Re: What are YOU? Pick your side wisely

    There can be no true peace, unless the two opposing forces are in harmony, Yin-Yang in balance, Senju and Uchiha united, that is what Rikudou wanted his two sons to do, work together.
     
         

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    Hashiramanism
     
         

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    Re: What are YOU? Pick your side wisely

    I'm with Tobiramanism.

    Which essentially a stronger..no a stricter version of Hashiramanism so I am on Hashirama's side and not Madara's.
     
         
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    Re: What are YOU? Pick your side wisely

    Quote Originally Posted by minator93 View Post
    I'm with Tobiramanism.

    Which essentially a stronger..no a stricter version of Hashiramanism so I am on Hashirama's side and not Madara's.
    , Tobirama is not a stricter version of Hashiramanism actually. Tobirama selected out the Uchiha because he saw them as a possible threat. So Tobirama I guess kind of a mix up of Hashirama and little bit of Madara. (Though I disagree with Tobirama's ways, I respect your side).
     
         

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    Re: What are YOU? Pick your side wisely

    Hashiramanism, because I am already like that myself. Doing things Madara's way might keep more bad guys of the street metaphorically speaking, but it would also cause rebellion and fear, and eventually war. By trying the peaceful approach and giving everyone a chance to be and feel equal, peace is more likely. Due to human's however and their faults, both choices will never truly bring peace, but Hashirama's would come closest.

    I give everyone a chance, even those who have wronged me. Not everyone should be punished unless they truly deserve it.
     
         

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    Re: What are YOU? Pick your side wisely

    Quote Originally Posted by Melanee View Post
    Hashiramanism, because I am already like that myself. Doing things Madara's way might keep more bad guys of the street metaphorically speaking, but it would also cause rebellion and fear, and eventually war. By trying the peaceful approach and giving everyone a chance to be and feel equal, peace is more likely. Due to human's however and their faults, both choices will never truly bring peace, but Hashirama's would come closest.

    I give everyone a chance, even those who have wronged me. Not everyone should be punished unless they truly deserve it.
    unfortunately people are so stupid ,, go*dam** humans!!!!!!
    people can understand , but they hold on to grudges and emotions too often
    to accept the better choice to let peace attempts happen or last longer..

    i'd probably like to be influenced by hashirama's , but madara's sounds so fun
     
         

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    Re: What are YOU? Pick your side wisely

    I follow Sir Derp Obito-ism
    Or maybe Itachism
     
         

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    Re: What are YOU? Pick your side wisely

    Quote Originally Posted by Uchiha Riyo View Post
    Neither, a peaceful world is very hard to live in, the shinobi system would crumble. A destructive world is just as bad, except that the shinobi will be destroying themselves.
    This^^. .
     
         

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    Re: What are YOU? Pick your side wisely

    Remember McCartney's lyrics? Ebony and Ivory living together in perfect harmony, that is the true key to peace.
     
         

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