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    Minato was a failure in the end

    Obito was right.

    Minato failed to protect his students, what kind of Sensei is that? He let hardly a jounin and 2 more kids to go in a death mission. Rin and Obito(though he survived) are probably the only ones who died, no other Sensei let this happening at that time.
    He never regret Obito's death.
    He let Rin die, did exactly the same mistake twice, which dehypes him even more.
    He didn't even mention that when he regret in front of the previous Hokages and Sasuke. It's so egoistic of him, or at least sort of.
    Didn't live long enough to protect his village and basically throw away his live, failing at killing a 14-16 yrs old kid, who could use Izanagi but luckily Obito already controlled Kurama so it was impossible for him to use it, imagine if.

    It was all like "hurry up I've gotta meet my son"
    What's up with his mind, did he ever consider that he had other important persons in his life?...
     
         
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    Re: Minato was a failure in the end

    Its a common theme in the series that the ninja world itself is a failure and that they are a victim of the times they live in.
     
         

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    Re: Minato was a failure in the end

    he did not fail, he created naruto.

    EDIT: also he just dident let rin die and obito almost die. That was a time of war and they all had there own separate missions ext... and im pretty sure what ever mission minato had was handled with ezzz, i mean the enemy was told to run away if they saw him.
     
         
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    Re: Minato was a failure in the end

    He still saved the village and a lot of lives. He passed down karuma to naruto which also saved a lot of lives.

    I agree that he failed, but he was still a strong ninja and hokage who did a lot even in his short reign.
     
         

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    Re: Minato was a failure in the end

    Hm. Good points indeed. But my fanboy-ism says other wise >.> I like Minato just because he looks cool but your right on most of those points o.O He also did not promote Ichiraku Ramen when he became Hokage which is a HUGE mistake as well. Nice thread! Btw what he did do is that he passed down kurama and which gave Naruto power which saved a lot of lives!
     
         

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    Re: Minato was a failure in the end

    Quote Originally Posted by MrSimple View Post
    Obito was right.

    Minato failed to protect his students, what kinda of Sensei is that? He let hardly a jounin and 2 more kids to go in a death mission. Rin and Obito(though he survived) are probably the only ones who died of all in that generation they had.
    He never regret Obito's death.
    He let Rin die, did his mistake twice, which dehypes him even more.
    He didn't even mention that when he regret in front of the previous Hokages and Sasuke. It's so egoistic of him, or at least sort of.
    Didn't live long enough to protect his village and basically throw away his live, failing at killing a 14-16 yrs old kid, who could use Izanagi but luckily Obito already controlled Kurama so it was impossible for him to use it, imagine if.

    "It was all like hurry up I've gotta meet my son"
    What's up with his mind, did he ever consider that he had other important persons in his life?...
    Minato was not Rin's babysitter. I'm sure it's normal for a Jounin to lose a few students over the years.
     
         

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    Re: Minato was a failure in the end

    :sy: :sy: :sy:

    I Cannot believe you typed "dehypes" and dared to put it in bold..
     
         

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    Re: Minato was a failure in the end

    All of Minato's short comings were merely plot(it makes for a good story duhhhh)... kishi will show us why he is the dad of the main character soon enough!
     
         

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    Re: Minato was a failure in the end

    Quote Originally Posted by NarutoB View Post
    Minato was not Rin's babysitter. I'm sure it's normal for a Jounin to lose a few students over the years.
    Careful use too much logic and you might scare him away from his own pointless thread.
     
         

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    Re: Minato was a failure in the end

    No he wasn't.
     
         

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    A savior doesn't make any mistakes, he never fails
     
         

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    Re: Minato was a failure in the end

    why is it everyone is making these hate threads. Make one and stay on it. lol

    Anyway, I don't know if you know this.... but he is a character made by kishimoto who created naruto.

    So unless you want to theorize about how he was a failure, do not put it like it is the truth.

    Why not look at all the positive things he had done also. Aka saving the village and his child and created the path for naruto to become the "chosen one" by giving him mostly part of kurama's chakra and was nice enough to seal his and his mother's chakra so they could see him again someday. Not to mention.... We don't know how rin died, never saw his true reaction, plus he didn't throw his life away for nothing because not only did he do his job as hokage but also as a parent.
     
         

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    Re: Minato was a failure in the end

    What constitutes the concept of failure is clearly dependant on each person. Everyone is a failure in some way. In this case, I would wait and see what is really going on when Obito and Kakashi fights.
     
         

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    Re: Minato was a failure in the end

    Quote Originally Posted by NarutoB View Post
    Minato was not Rin's babysitter. I'm sure it's normal for a Jounin to lose a few students over the years.
    Correct! Rin was a Chunin at the time of the Kannabi Bridge mission.
    In the series we have seen the Konoha 11 as Chunin, and their senseis don't linger around them like they once did.
    In any case in a way he did fail but it's not like he could just neglect his missions.

    (Also yay Summer Wars )
     
         

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    Re: Minato was a failure in the end

    he still beats your FAVORITE character!
     
         

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    Re: Minato was a failure in the end

    Well at least his failure not as big as ITACHI
     
         

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    Re: Minato was a failure in the end

    In the flashback pages where Kushina was kidnapped, she looks no older than anyone did back in Part 1. Therefore we can say with confidence that she was around 12. Minato was in the same year as her, therefore he was also 12. The three Kumogakure ninja who kidnapped Kushina were Jonin. We know Kumogakure were trying to find ways to better control the Eight Tails, after all, and they wouldn't have sent three Chunin on such a vital mission. Which means Minato beat three Jonin without Hiraishin and Rasengan.

    Minato was faced with a series of unfortunate events and even in that, he saved the Village, his family and put stop to Obito's plans then sealed the kyuubi; finally he made a comeback in his sons life even after death, and left some room for kushina. Without his genius version of Hirashin, Mei would have never gotten to the battle field, giving the 4kage a lesser chance against The Kings mentor, Madara. Minato cannot be blamed for Rin's death as, he may had been caught up in another battle, which is expected as it was a time of War. Alternately, the possibiliy of Kakashi not having the Hirashin Kunai. Minato isn't portrayed canonically as a failure but rather as a hokage which did the best he could in all areas, at one time.
     
         

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    Re: Minato was a failure in the end

    The only failure I see here is your thread...
     
         

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    Re: Minato was a failure in the end

    no,you fail my bro. thread closed.
     
         

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    Re: Minato was a failure in the end

    Quote Originally Posted by 1timeonly View Post
    He still saved the village and a lot of lives. He passed down karuma to naruto which also saved a lot of lives.

    I agree that he failed, but he was still a strong ninja and hokage who did a lot even in his short reign.
    So how did he fail? You make no sense
     
         

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    Re: Minato was a failure in the end

    Why can't we have a discussion without Itachi fanboys showing up and injecting offtopic things? :\
     
         

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    Re: Minato was a failure in the end

    Quote Originally Posted by NarutoB View Post
    Minato was not Rin's babysitter. I'm sure it's normal for a Jounin to lose a few students over the years.
    They were the most important students for him, I don't even know if he had others...
    But not regretting for once your mistake as a Sensei is just too much.
     
         

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    Re: Minato was a failure in the end

    Quote Originally Posted by MrSimple View Post
    They were the most important students for him, I don't even know if he had others...
    But not regretting for once your mistake as a Sensei is just too much.
    What was the point of this thread?
    Itachi slaughtered his whole village and still failed Sasuke, he was the true failure (as admitted by himself)
     
         

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    Re: Minato was a failure in the end

    Naruto 3:16

    For Minato so loved the Leat Village
    that he gave his only begotten son
    that whosoever believeth in Naruto
    Shall not perish but have everlasting life

    Minato is the God of Naruto. Geez a guy gives his life and uses his son to save the village from an emo 16 year old freak with one eye and his pet fox and you want to wank on him? Perish heathen
     
         

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    Re: Minato was a failure in the end

    Quote Originally Posted by MrSimple View Post
    They were the most important students for him, I don't even know if he had others...
    But not regretting for once your mistake as a Sensei is just too much.
    How do YOU know he didn't feel regret when it happened. With your logic, Naruto just wants everyone to think his dream is to be hokage when in reality he wants to take over the ichiraku ramen business or however its pronounced.
     
         
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