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    [Prediction/Theory] Sasuke and Itachi are direct descendants of Madara Uchiha

    As most of you probably noted, Itachi, Madara and Sasuke are the only ones that have the Mangekyou who can use Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi and Susanoo.

    The other people that possessed the MS, namely Kakashi, Obito and Shisui all had different abilities. I think it was Itachi ( needing source ) that said the MS gives specific abilities to each wielder, rather than every MS user having the same jutsus.

    It is not fishy that Sasuke and Itachi would have the same MS jutsus. They are brothers by blood. But why does Madara have the same jutsus? It certainly feels fishy to me. You will note a load of similarities between Madara and Sasuke.

    To further strengthen my theory, Naruto has been described as possessing the Will of Fire ( Which originates from Hashirama Senju, Madara's eternal rival ), Sasuke has been described as being afflicted by the Curse of Hatred.

    The curse was almost extinguished by the creation of Konoha, with only Madara Uchiha refusing to relinquish it.
    All of the konoha people have their issues. Neji's father was killed because of Konoha's order ( his twin was supposed to die and Neji's dad took his place ) yet only Sasuke defected and wants to destroy it.

    Though Madara was exiled by his clan soon after
    I believe this is similar to how the Konoha 11 / all of Konoha except for Naruto decided to kill Sasuke given the chance.

    The Kyuubi noted Sasuke's chakra was alike Madara's ( possibly due to his Hatred, or it might be another hint that they are related ).

    During the Battle between Naruto and Sasuke in Part I at the Valley of the End, Sasuke stood atop Madara's statue, with Naruto being on Hashirama's.

    Both Sasuke and Madara obtained their EMS from a loving brother that sacrificed themselves ( Izuna because he thought Madara had to lead the clan at all costs, going blind and even continuing to fight in wars blind while Itachi protected Sasuke all of his life ).

    Both Madara and Sasuke hated and greatly admired their rival ( Hashirama and Naruto, respectively ).

    Sasuke is the last Uchiha alive ( with Tobi being half-Zetsu ), probably being the only one that can revive the clan.

    There might be others, but that's all I can think of.

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    Summary:

    - Same MS jutsus.
    - Wielders of EMS gained without violence, with their brothers selflessly sacrificing themselves.
    - Assuming Sasuke manages to revive the clan, both will be remembered as leading figures of their clan.
    - Possibly most passionate wielders of the Curse of Hatred
    - Both are rivalled by a strong wielder of the Will of Fire
    - Both tried to destroy Konoha, feeling betrayed ( Madara by his clan, Sasuke by his village )
     
         
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    Re: [Prediction/Theory] Sasuke and Itachi are direct descendants of Madara Uchiha

    y i agree hundred percent . i even thought about this before kyubi said to
     
         

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    Re: [Prediction/Theory] Sasuke and Itachi are direct descendants of Madara Uchiha

    Sasuke does look a lot like izuna, good theory
     
         

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    Re: [Prediction/Theory] Sasuke and Itachi are direct descendants of Madara Uchiha

    well..we have never seen madara using neither amaterasu nor tsukuyomi...sasuke also never used tsukuyomi...but well..they did say that those are required in order to have susanoo...
     
         

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    Re: [Prediction/Theory] Sasuke and Itachi are direct descendants of Madara Uchiha

    Yeah, you need Tsuku and Amaterasu for Susanoo.

    As for Sasuke, I think he used Tsukuyomi against Danzo.
     
         

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    Re: [Prediction/Theory] Sasuke and Itachi are direct descendants of Madara Uchiha

    could be
     
         

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    Re: [Prediction/Theory] Sasuke and Itachi are direct descendants of Madara Uchiha

    u just need a ms attack n both eyes for sussono. i know u gonna say that the book say no but think about .kishi didnt want spoil up coming new eye tecks
     
         

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    Re: [Prediction/Theory] Sasuke and Itachi are direct descendants of Madara Uchiha

    That may be true, but Shisui had 2 MS eyes and couldn't use Susanoo.
     
         

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    Re: [Prediction/Theory] Sasuke and Itachi are direct descendants of Madara Uchiha

    Quote Originally Posted by pateuvasiliu View Post
    That may be true, but Shisui had 2 MS eyes and couldn't use Susanoo.
    how u kno he couldnt its jus never been shown or maybe he didnt need to and judging by danzou and alot of ppl it seems like in tht universe susanoo is known by lots of diff ppl as if to say theyve all seen it before
     
         

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    Re: [Prediction/Theory] Sasuke and Itachi are direct descendants of Madara Uchiha

    Because you need Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi for Susanoo.
     
         

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    Re: [Prediction/Theory] Sasuke and Itachi are direct descendants of Madara Uchiha

    Quote Originally Posted by pateuvasiliu View Post

    Summary:

    - Same MS jutsus. - And? They were just the lucky ones
    - Wielders of EMS gained without violence, with their brothers selflessly sacrificing themselves. This signifies nothing.
    - Assuming Sasuke manages to revive the clan, both will be remembered as leading figures of their clan. This signifies nothing.
    - Possibly most passionate wielders of the Curse of Hatred This signifies nothing.
    - Both are rivalled by a strong wielder of the Will of Fire This signifies nothing.
    - Both tried to destroy Konoha, feeling betrayed ( Madara by his clan, Sasuke by his village ) This signifies nothing.
    If you want to prove they're related, don't use their backgrounds because it doesn't mean anything.

    For example, Naruto shares a fair bit in common with Shodai Hokage, strong Will of Fire, opposed by someone with the Curse of Hatred, yet Naruto is clearly not related to him.

    It's not Madara, Itachi and Sasuke who can use the techs per se, remember that. It's suggested that any "lucky" Uchiha will get the ultimate jutsu trio.
     
         

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    Re: [Prediction/Theory] Sasuke and Itachi are direct descendants of Madara Uchiha

    For example, Naruto shares a fair bit in common with Shodai Hokage, strong Will of Fire, opposed by someone with the Curse of Hatred, yet Naruto is clearly not related to him.
    Uzumaki and Senjus are related. That's canon.

    It's not using the background as proof, it's using it as a symbol. A parallel.

    It's not Madara, Itachi and Sasuke who can use the techs per se, remember that. It's suggested that any "lucky" Uchiha will get the ultimate jutsu trio.
    That's not the ultimate jutsu trio. The strongest MS technique is Shisui's. Also, Obito was probably the youngest Uchiha to awaken the MS and he doesn't have the ''ultimate'' trio. I'd dare say Kamui is better than Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi.
     
         

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