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    Re: Abortion

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    I don't think it's right.
    Ofc not.
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    A woman should absolutely have the right to make this choice, it's her body
    Completely agree.
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

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    So to protect the kids from suffering, you kill them before they are born? Genius.
    Well, think of it like this. If it's inevitable to have the child suffer, meaning there's absolutely no way around it. Then it seems like killing them before their born isn't the worst option.. It's hard to explain without coming off as cold.
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

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    Who the hell was talking to you? I was talking or writing to Detective L, not you. So you need to clam down alright and it's not like I was cursing at him and yelling so you have no right to do that to me.
    That doesn't mean I can't answer you.
    Quote Originally Posted by IchisaMiku View Post
    So would you want a child to be abused and be around drugs?
    Umm, foster care?
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Pavoneo View Post
    Well, think of it like this. If it's inevitable to have the child suffer, meaning there's absolutely no way around it. Then it seems like killing them before their born isn't the worst option.. It's hard to explain without coming off as cold.
    Thank you..
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

    everybody who is alive started out as a fetus so i dont think it's right
    also if i was a fetus and the mother who was caring for me couldn't afford me or if i was conceived by rape or any other reasons
    i wouldn't want to be aborted and i would want a chance at life so it would make me a hypocrite to think abortion is right
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    That doesn't mean I can't answer you.


    Umm, foster care?
    Yeah but I doubt a druggy would want to send the kid to foster care. They need money from the government so they can buy drugs and beer, some do that.
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by rollin View Post
    everybody who is alive started out as a fetus so i dont think it's right
    also if i was a fetus and the mother who was caring for me couldn't afford me or if i was conceived by rape or any other reasons
    i wouldn't want to be aborted and i would want a chance at life so it would make me a hypocrite to think abortion is right
    Everyone should have a right to life,so true what you said.
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Pavoneo View Post
    Well, think of it like this. If it's inevitable to have the child suffer, meaning there's absolutely no way around it. Then it seems like killing them before their born isn't the worst option.. It's hard to explain without coming off as cold.
    I know what you're saying, but there's always the chance of foster care. There's always the chance that the kid can have a better life. I don't think it's right to take that chance away.
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

    If my wife wanted to get an a abortion because she didn't want a kid now I would tell her no, I will keep the baby and you can leave.
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    I know what you're saying, but there's always the chance of foster care. There's always the chance that the kid can have a better life. I don't think it's right to take that chance away.
    You're right about that but hopefully the bad parents let the kid go to a foster care and some foster cares are bad. So it's like a 50/50
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

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    A woman should absolutely have the right to make this choice, it's her body
    No one's saying she shouldn't have the choice. The question is, is that choice right or wrong?
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

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    No one's saying she shouldn't have the choice. The question is, is that choice right or wrong?
    Exactly!
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

    I think it all depends on how she became pregnant.
    If she gets pregnant because they didn't use protection then let her keep the baby.
    If she's raped then I think it's ok.
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    Yes, it's a coward's choice.

    Most of the time I hear about abortion, this is what I hear:

    1. The mother was raped.
    Well, abortion doesn't erase the rape from your history.

    2. Teenage pregnancies.
    It's called consequences.

    3. Baby will die.
    This is something I can understand. If my kid is gonna die shortly after being born, then I'd choose it to die after it's born. At least then, I can honestly say I didn't kill my child.
    I didn't say that cowards didn't choose that. But okay:

    1.Of course rape won't be erased like that, but choosing abortion there sounds more like hatred than fear to me.

    2.Of course, those are the consequences. Here I agree it is out of fear (Every 1 seeks for the best outcome for life, even if not all actually strive for it, it's still a desire. Humans are selfish by nature) But I think it has more benefits in such cases. Most of teen parents don't have access to education, which leads to great amount of young ppl in productive age that performs poorly.
    In a long term vision, it is better if you can achieve that the largest part of population gets decent life standars (because usually those standars are inherited by the children).

    3. :shrug: We'll al die anyway. That's more a matter of the parent protecting them-selves and the child from suffering.
     
         
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    Re: Abortion

    Abortion is basically a choice....it can't be called an aboslute crime though.....people can have their own opinion regarding abortion which can be nothing more than a merely vague concept....
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

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    Umm, foster care?
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    I know what you're saying, but there's always the chance of foster care. There's always the chance that the kid can have a better life. I don't think it's right to take that chance away.
    Foster care is terrible. Mainly a bunch of people just above welfare that are looking for some more cash in exchanged for half assed parenting.

    Quote Originally Posted by IchisaMiku View Post
    If my wife wanted to get an a abortion because she didn't want a kid now I would tell her no, I will keep the baby and you can leave.
    Because you have a sense of responsibility.
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Itachi Rane View Post
    Abortion is basically a choice....it can't be called an aboslute crime though.....people can have their own opinion regarding abortion which can be nothing more than a merely vague concept....
    Killing a person is a crime,which is exactly what abortion is.You cant go to jail for it but still..
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

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    Foster care is terrible. Mainly a bunch of people just above welfare that are looking for some more cash in exchanged for half assed parenting.



    Because you have a sense of responsibility.
    Thank you and yes some foster cares are bad.
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

    There are so many scenarios where an abortion can be considered that you can't just call someone a coward for going that way. What if the woman was raped? What if her life is at risk?
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

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    There are so many scenarios where an abortion can be considered that you can't just call someone a coward for going that way. What if the woman was raped? What if her life is at risk?
    You are right about the scenarios but if she was raped and didn't want the baby then she can give the baby to a good home.
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

    Abortion is a murder in a direct way. But, what about the father's right? You disregarded it completely.
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Detective L View Post
    Killing a person is a crime,which is exactly what abortion is.You cant go to jail for it but still..
    As long as the mother hasn't delivered yet, the baby still is part of her body, connected by the umbilical chord....and the baby's nutrition is all taken care of by the mother's diet(i suck in biology) so....i think yes the mother can get rid of the baby according to law.....however whethee it is a moral crime or not depends on how a person views it....
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by drknght View Post
    Abortion is a murder in a direct way. But, what about the father's right? You disregarded it completely.
    I would want my child. If she doesn't want a kid then she can leave but I'm keeping the baby.
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

    Definitely against it.

    A woman should absolutely have the right to make this choice, it's her body
    It's also a baby's right to be born.
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by drknght View Post
    Abortion is a murder in a direct way. But, what about the father's right? You disregarded it completely.
    Yeah,forgot the father.But you know women..
     
         

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