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    Re: Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by -Haku Yuki- View Post
    this will be removed soon or turned into a flaming war but i'm against it its still a human life also to kill something it needs to be alive first
    Touchy topic,yes.I am not planning on a flame war just your opinions on said topic.
     
         

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    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    So to protect the kids from suffering, you kill them before they are born? Genius.
    So would you want a child to be abused and be around drugs?

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    General discussion,talk about serious matters it states? Didnt post under Naruto questions =)
    Alright my bad lol
     
         
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    Re: Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Supermacaquecool View Post
    Aha. So you're against abortion because you think it's a coward's choice. For what I can understand, a coward is one who surrenders to fear. Leaving aside that fear is actually a natural mechanism to preserve one's life, there are plenty of motives that could lead a person to support/practice abortion.

    Hum! Depends on what you think it's human. I think exactly the opposite, but I'm a bit warped
    Yes, it's a coward's choice.

    Most of the time I hear about abortion, this is what I hear:

    1. The mother was raped.
    Well, abortion doesn't erase the rape from your history.

    2. Teenage pregnancies.
    It's called consequences.

    3. Baby will die.
    This is something I can understand. If my kid is gonna die shortly after being born, then I'd choose it to die after it's born. At least then, I can honestly say I didn't kill my child.
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

    Birth control is your responsibility. If you don't use it correctly you fail at life. Abortion shouldn't even exist but it does because people are ****ing stupid. Its not your body I'm worried about its your retardation. People that get abortions have no sense of responsibility nor the mental strength to handle parenthood. Its a lose lose situation. They're too irresponsible to keep from getting pregnant then they're probably too irresponsible to be parents. They just need to give every teenage girl a shot in the arm to keep them from getting pregnant until they're married.
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

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    Alright my bad lol
    No problem :-)
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

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    I don't think it's right.
    Ofc not.
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    A woman should absolutely have the right to make this choice, it's her body
    Completely agree.
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    So to protect the kids from suffering, you kill them before they are born? Genius.
    Well, think of it like this. If it's inevitable to have the child suffer, meaning there's absolutely no way around it. Then it seems like killing them before their born isn't the worst option.. It's hard to explain without coming off as cold.
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by IchisaMiku View Post
    Who the hell was talking to you? I was talking or writing to Detective L, not you. So you need to clam down alright and it's not like I was cursing at him and yelling so you have no right to do that to me.
    That doesn't mean I can't answer you.
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    So would you want a child to be abused and be around drugs?
    Umm, foster care?
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Pavoneo View Post
    Well, think of it like this. If it's inevitable to have the child suffer, meaning there's absolutely no way around it. Then it seems like killing them before their born isn't the worst option.. It's hard to explain without coming off as cold.
    Thank you..
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

    everybody who is alive started out as a fetus so i dont think it's right
    also if i was a fetus and the mother who was caring for me couldn't afford me or if i was conceived by rape or any other reasons
    i wouldn't want to be aborted and i would want a chance at life so it would make me a hypocrite to think abortion is right
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    That doesn't mean I can't answer you.


    Umm, foster care?
    Yeah but I doubt a druggy would want to send the kid to foster care. They need money from the government so they can buy drugs and beer, some do that.
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by rollin View Post
    everybody who is alive started out as a fetus so i dont think it's right
    also if i was a fetus and the mother who was caring for me couldn't afford me or if i was conceived by rape or any other reasons
    i wouldn't want to be aborted and i would want a chance at life so it would make me a hypocrite to think abortion is right
    Everyone should have a right to life,so true what you said.
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by Pavoneo View Post
    Well, think of it like this. If it's inevitable to have the child suffer, meaning there's absolutely no way around it. Then it seems like killing them before their born isn't the worst option.. It's hard to explain without coming off as cold.
    I know what you're saying, but there's always the chance of foster care. There's always the chance that the kid can have a better life. I don't think it's right to take that chance away.
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

    If my wife wanted to get an a abortion because she didn't want a kid now I would tell her no, I will keep the baby and you can leave.
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    I know what you're saying, but there's always the chance of foster care. There's always the chance that the kid can have a better life. I don't think it's right to take that chance away.
    You're right about that but hopefully the bad parents let the kid go to a foster care and some foster cares are bad. So it's like a 50/50
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

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    A woman should absolutely have the right to make this choice, it's her body
    No one's saying she shouldn't have the choice. The question is, is that choice right or wrong?
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    No one's saying she shouldn't have the choice. The question is, is that choice right or wrong?
    Exactly!
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

    I think it all depends on how she became pregnant.
    If she gets pregnant because they didn't use protection then let her keep the baby.
    If she's raped then I think it's ok.
     
         

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    Re: Abortion

    Quote Originally Posted by rikerslade View Post
    Yes, it's a coward's choice.

    Most of the time I hear about abortion, this is what I hear:

    1. The mother was raped.
    Well, abortion doesn't erase the rape from your history.

    2. Teenage pregnancies.
    It's called consequences.

    3. Baby will die.
    This is something I can understand. If my kid is gonna die shortly after being born, then I'd choose it to die after it's born. At least then, I can honestly say I didn't kill my child.
    I didn't say that cowards didn't choose that. But okay:

    1.Of course rape won't be erased like that, but choosing abortion there sounds more like hatred than fear to me.

    2.Of course, those are the consequences. Here I agree it is out of fear (Every 1 seeks for the best outcome for life, even if not all actually strive for it, it's still a desire. Humans are selfish by nature) But I think it has more benefits in such cases. Most of teen parents don't have access to education, which leads to great amount of young ppl in productive age that performs poorly.
    In a long term vision, it is better if you can achieve that the largest part of population gets decent life standars (because usually those standars are inherited by the children).

    3. :shrug: We'll al die anyway. That's more a matter of the parent protecting them-selves and the child from suffering.
     
         
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    Re: Abortion

    Abortion is basically a choice....it can't be called an aboslute crime though.....people can have their own opinion regarding abortion which can be nothing more than a merely vague concept....
     
         

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