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    Re: Deidara's Fighting style counters Minato's?

    people seem to forget minato can fly with a combination of FTGV2 and throwing kunai's. Deidara would be finished before he knew what was going on.
     
         

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    Re: Deidara's Fighting style counters Minato's?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nosferato View Post
    people seem to forget minato can fly with a combination of FTGV2 and throwing kunai's. Deidara would be finished before he knew what was going on.
    Makes sense since he almost got blitzed by Sasuke!
     
         

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    Re: Deidara's Fighting style counters Minato's?

    I am going to have to disagree on this one. All Minato has to do is throw a kunai in the air, teleport to it, then throw it again, and repeat. He can reach Deidara that way.
    As for C4, Minato would teleport away instantly if he saw it. He doesn't know how deadly it is, he just know deidara likes bombs and a giant clone of Deidara is expanding and looks like it is about to blow up. He wouldn't stick around for that.

    The only way i see Deidara winning is if the C4 stays around long enough for when Minato comes back, however the longevity of it is never really mentioned.
     
         

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    Re: Deidara's Fighting style counters Minato's?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nosferato View Post
    people seem to forget minato can fly with a combination of FTGV2 and throwing kunai's. Deidara would be finished before he knew what was going on.
    dont be foolish, throwing a kunia would be the worse decision. This would allow to react by simply throwing birds in its direction and as Minato teleports towards it, he'll be caught in a explosive.

     
         

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    Re: Deidara's Fighting style counters Minato's?

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperFlyzzED View Post
    Don't listen to Bogard's remark, "he has become very immature ever since he put that Minato image as his ava!"
    Thanks, though I never take fanboy remarks seriously.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nosferato View Post
    people seem to forget minato can fly with a combination of FTGV2 and throwing kunai's. Deidara would be finished before he knew what was going on.
    Already refuted in the OP:

    Its possible that Minato could try to catch him in the air through some ingenious Kunai throwing chain combo but i don't think it is a sure thing being that their's factors like gravity to consider..also at a given height it may take some time for minato to get there.

    Quote Originally Posted by DeViliShChild View Post
    I am going to have to disagree on this one. All Minato has to do is throw a kunai in the air, teleport to it, then throw it again, and repeat. He can reach Deidara that way.
    As for C4, Minato would teleport away instantly if he saw it. He doesn't know how deadly it is, he just know deidara likes bombs and a giant clone of Deidara is expanding and looks like it is about to blow up. He wouldn't stick around for that.

    The only way i see Deidara winning is if the C4 stays around long enough for when Minato comes back, however the longevity of it is never really mentioned.
    I already mentioned this in the OP:

    Its possible that Minato could try to catch him in the air through some ingenious Kunai throwing chain combo but i don't think it is a sure thing being that their's factors like gravity to consider..also at a given height it may take some time for minato to get there and can be attacked during that time.

    C4 Can't be seen without the sharingan so he'd most likely get caught.
     
         
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    Re: Deidara's Fighting style counters Minato's?

    Quote Originally Posted by blazekev90 View Post
    dont be foolish, throwing a kunia would be the worse decision. This would allow to react by simply throwing birds in its direction and as Minato teleports towards it, he'll be caught in a explosive.

    minato can throw 50 kunai and teleport to whichever the bird doesn't go to.
     
         

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    Re: Deidara's Fighting style counters Minato's?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nosferato View Post
    minato can throw 50 kunai and teleport to whichever the bird doesn't go to.
    He could throw any many as he likes, it's about the one closest to Deidara that needs to be defended. LOL @ 50
     
         

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    Re: Deidara's Fighting style counters Minato's?

    Quote Originally Posted by blazekev90 View Post
    He could throw any many as he likes, it's about the one closest to Deidara that needs to be defended. LOL @ 50
    realistically minato could tank a few bird explosions anyway
     
         

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    Re: Deidara's Fighting style counters Minato's?

    A jutsu sometimes overlooked is that Minato can create barrier techniques. Besides his space time barrier, he has also shown a barrier technique that even Hiruzen wasn't able to break

    It's also safe to assume that since he is specialized in barrier jutsus, he can reproduce Jiraya's barrier ninjutsu that detects everything in the area, but that's a speculation
     
         

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    Re: Deidara's Fighting style counters Minato's?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nosferato View Post
    realistically minato could tank a few bird explosions anyway
    Really, how?
     
         

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    Re: Deidara's Fighting style counters Minato's?

    Quote Originally Posted by PuppyDogGeneral View Post
    Thanks, though I never take fanboy remarks seriously.


    Already refuted in the OP:

    Its possible that Minato could try to catch him in the air through some ingenious Kunai throwing chain combo but i don't think it is a sure thing being that their's factors like gravity to consider..also at a given height it may take some time for minato to get there.



    I already mentioned this in the OP:

    Its possible that Minato could try to catch him in the air through some ingenious Kunai throwing chain combo but i don't think it is a sure thing being that their's factors like gravity to consider..also at a given height it may take some time for minato to get there and can be attacked during that time.

    C4 Can't be seen without the sharingan so he'd most likely get caught.
    You didn't refute that in the OP. All you said was that you didn't think he would be able to do it because of gravity and time. People who say that he can reach Deidara sare saying that neither of those things stated matter when Minato will go to another point in less than a second.
     
         

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    Re: Deidara's Fighting style counters Minato's?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post
    A jutsu sometimes overlooked is that Minato can create barrier techniques. Besides his space time barrier, he has also shown a barrier technique that even Hiruzen wasn't able to break

    It's also safe to assume that since he is specialized in barrier jutsus, he can reproduce Jiraya's barrier ninjutsu that detects everything in the area, but that's a speculation
    "We're too late! They've put up a barrier around the Nine-Tails!"

    ^You have no proof that the technique was solely minato's ^

    Assumptions. You still haven't proven anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by DeViliShChild View Post
    You didn't refute that in the OP. All you said was that you didn't think he would be able to do it because of gravity and time. People who say that he can reach Deidara sare saying that neither of those things stated matter when Minato will go to another point in less than a second.
    What are you saying? Minato cannot through a single kunai that high and deidara is free to move about in the air on his bird. There's no factor that would keep him stationary...Minato's not getting to him with that method.
     
         
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    Re: Deidara's Fighting style counters Minato's?

    Quote Originally Posted by SuperFlyzzED View Post
    Really, how?
    they would blow up on him and it wouldn't really hurt him because he's kage level
     
         

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    Re: Deidara's Fighting style counters Minato's?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nosferato View Post
    realistically minato could tank a few bird explosions anyway
    by throwing kunia at random lol hell even Deidara could throw many mini (lol) small bombs




    @ Bogard, MInato didnt use the barrier himself
     
         
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    Re: Deidara's Fighting style counters Minato's?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nosferato View Post
    they would blow up on him and it wouldn't really hurt him because he's kage level
    That's a bunch of lies that doesn't change anything.
     
         

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    Re: Deidara's Fighting style counters Minato's?

    Quote Originally Posted by PuppyDogGeneral View Post
    "We're too late! They've put up a barrier around the Nine-Tails!"

    ^You have no proof that the technique was solely minato's ^

    Assumptions. You still haven't proven anything.
    It was Minato's
    "I've to get up a barrier as soon as possible"

     
         

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    Re: Deidara's Fighting style counters Minato's?

    First of all, minato wouldn't let Deidara get so far away from him. He'll defeat him before that happens. And if Deidara is already far enough in the air, then gamabunta is always there to cover large distances(both on the ground and in the air). Also, gamabunta's water projectile attacks can go quite far.
    Last but not the least, Minato can't be defeated unless he gets hit(which with his speed is highly unlikely)
     
         

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    Re: Deidara's Fighting style counters Minato's?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post
    It was Minato's
    "I've to get up a barrier as soon as possible"

    sorry, I know this is between you and Dog. But Minato didn't use the technique, he reference using "A" barrier, this was when Kushien (whatever her name is) said she could help and did it herself. Also, you can see the chains floating behind her hair



    even Minato was shocked by her actions, she in fact did this alone. She should really take the credit for this.
     
         
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    Re: Deidara's Fighting style counters Minato's?

    Quote Originally Posted by PuppyDogGeneral View Post
    "We're too late! They've put up a barrier around the Nine-Tails!"

    ^You have no proof that the technique was solely minato's ^

    Assumptions. You still haven't proven anything.



    What are you saying? Minato cannot through a single kunai that high and deidara is free to move about in the air on his bird. There's no factor that would keep him stationary...Minato's not getting to him with that method.

    Throw, teleport, catch, repeat. So yes he can get to him with that method.
     
         

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    Re: Deidara's Fighting style counters Minato's?

    Minato wrecks Deidara case closed.

    http://narutobase.net/forums/showthread.php?t=315342
     
         

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    Re: Deidara's Fighting style counters Minato's?

    Quote Originally Posted by narutothetoadsage View Post
    First of all, minato wouldn't let Deidara get so far away from him. He'll defeat him before that happens. And if Deidara is already far enough in the air, then gamabunta is always there to cover large distances(both on the ground and in the air). Also, gamabunta's water projectile attacks can go quite far.
    Last but not the least, Minato can't be defeated unless he gets hit(which with his speed is highly unlikely)
    C4 apparently is unrecognizable without the sharingan.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post
    It was Minato's
    "I've to get up a barrier as soon as possible"

    Ok. I'll keep this in mind for future debates.

    I see, the barrier is a possible counter but he'd first need to recognize the technique (Microbombs)...which is the sole reason why i think Minato would ultimately lose this fight.
     
         

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    Re: Deidara's Fighting style counters Minato's?

    Deidara is a VERY bad matchup for minato, but minato is WAY more intelligent and faster than deidara.

    FTG can be used to easily avoid deidara's simple explosions.

    Minato has to touch deidara ONCE and this fight is over, minato can even put a ftg mark on deidara's clay dragons so he can get to deidara easier and easier.

    If deidara tries to use c0, minato can use space time barrier to send the explosion into another dimension, then deidara would die by himself while minato will live on. And minato can counter c4 with space time barrier too, as long as minato has the barrier in front of him its impossible for anything to touch minato, even if its microscopic bombs.

    Minato wins high diff because deidara has the advantage over minato, so he'll will have to put in some work to win over deidara's advantage, but if minato slips up he'll lose.
     
         

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    Re: Deidara's Fighting style counters Minato's?

    Quote Originally Posted by blazekev90 View Post
    Yes, but I don't see Minato closing the gap easily at all. Deidara is probably one of the most unpredictable characters in the show, who is best at long-range but was able to escape from team Gai on foot easily
    Either I'm underestimating Deidara's speed or your overestimating it. Minato should be able to attack before Deidara forms his bird to fly away. Unless Deidara is given more time to prepare his attacks.
     
         

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    Re: Deidara's Fighting style counters Minato's?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post
    She wanted to help Minato to restrict the Kyubi because she noticed he wanted to do everything by himself despite being low in chakra. It's exactly what she did when he restricted Kyubi with her chains to help SM Naruto to fight him, but like you can see there is no barrier around simply because chains =/= barrier. The chains alone doesn't erect a barrier. The barrier itself was created by Minato, but Kushina is the one who restricted Kyubi with her chains to make things easier

    what are you talking about, the chains is the barrier itself.

     
         

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    Re: Deidara's Fighting style counters Minato's?

    Quote Originally Posted by PuppyDogGeneral View Post
    C4 apparently is unrecognizable without the sharingan.
    That may be so, but if Minato sees a giant version of Deidara that looks like it is about to explode, then he will just teleport far away from the battle field, maybe even home.
     
         

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