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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 619 Discussion and 620 Predictions

    This is a 5/5 chapter. Not the best 5/5, but it is one of the best because a lot of information was given out.

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    We readers have to stop taking for fact what characters say. The Second said that the Uchiha is evil and their eyes turn them evil isn't a fact.

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    It is his "opinion" because they have tried to overturn the village, but he thinks they should be punished and not trusted from his interaction with them during all of the wars he fought with them. He knows Madara's heart and he is holding a grudge. He is still mad that the First let them join with them to form the Leaf. He is a hater.

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    The First is one of the Greatest Shinobis of all time. Don't let the way the Second is acting towards him mislead you. He is the First Hokage, if the Second was stronger, he would have been the First Hokage. Who faced and defeated Madara, not the Second. Let's not get it twisted.

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    This is Naruto Manga, and it is all about love overcoming hate and the First's personality is the best indication of what the village was built upon. His is approachable but will lay the smack down because he has so much to protect, which makes him stronger and have to stay and get stronger to protect it. Just like Naruto and the other Hokages.

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    Stop with this God of Shinobis Bull!!!! Old age is the God of Shinobis. At the time the First was the strongest = God of Shinobis, at the time the Third was the strongest (of those living) = God of Shinobis. Get over it, at the time they were the strongest.

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    Madara isn't the end all of Shinobis. He can't die, but I will take others in a fair fight against him. He is very powerful, but he could be beaten, especially now that there has been some intel gotten on him. He is just invincible from the Edo.

    Just let's wait and see what happens. It is a long way to go.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 619 Discussion and 620 Predictions

    Well.....seems like first was die-young. Who killed him or how he died..? God of shinobi....
    2nd died for battling in mission.
    3rd died of sealing.
    4th die of sealing...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 619 Discussion and 620 Predictions

    5/5. i believe that the question for minato will be about naruto
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 619 Discussion and 620 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by uchihaferdinand View Post
    Well.....seems like first was die-young. Who killed him or how he died..? God of shinobi....
    2nd died for battling in mission.
    3rd died of sealing.
    4th die of sealing...
    that's the only mystery left.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 619 Discussion and 620 Predictions

    HAHHA! I'm surprised of how Hashirama behaved hahah! I never thought Kishi would portray him as very funny! He was like Naruto!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 619 Discussion and 620 Predictions

    5/5 people....
    This is really getting interesting now... can't wait for next week...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 619 Discussion and 620 Predictions

    great chapter man 5/5
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 619 Discussion and 620 Predictions

    Soooooooo....love?

    Interesting way to explain the Uchiha eyes. Not what I was expecting but interesting.

    It's actually kinda nice to see the first more Naruto-like...or not as stoic as I thought he was going to be.

    But we are starting to get a lot more information. It will be cool to see how this continues.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 619 Discussion and 620 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by jklolomg9000 View Post
    This chapter was the 2nd and 3rd hokage talking. I think next chapter will be 1st and the 4th's turn to talk. I really don't see what Sasuke will get from asking those questions. I would like to see a hashirama/minato tag team, that would be interesting. I have a feeling that Sasuke will get mad at the 2nd and try some torture genjutsu and the 2nd will just counter the jutsu and put Sasuke in a genjutsu/bind.
    From my view Sasuke is a bit confused and with a dilemma. He has received conflicted information, therefore not sure who's side of the story should he trust more; in effect asking himself why does Itachi wants him to save the village so much, and Madara/Tobi wanting to destroy it? To alleviate this conundrum he's basically going to the beginning, hearing things from an objective voice; one who doesn't have an agenda for Sasuke. Therefore allowing Sasuke to make a choice of his own. In short, Sasuke is soul searching for answers.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 619 Discussion and 620 Predictions

    it's so good too see good humor back in naruto i miss that the first & second hokage are too funny... but on the serious side i feel bad for sasuke because he has no idea on who and what side should he be on the darkside or the light i can't wait til next week great chapter kishi...
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 619 Discussion and 620 Predictions

    Awesome 5/5. Hashirama is like a mixture of Goku,Loofy, and Naruto. The story for this chapter was great.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 619 Discussion and 620 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by usuratonkachi17 View Post
    oh man i loved this chapter, its so funny to see all four Hokages together and their personalities clash. I'm having trouble remembering ,does Sasuke know that Minato is Naruto's dad?
    I was just asking my sister the same question and we both agreed that Sasuke doesn't know that Minato is Naruto's dad cause Naruto just found, I don't think anyone has told Sasuke that.

    I loved that chapter 5/5
    Did anyone else notice when Minato was talking on page http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/619/2. Minato said "Originaly is was a sealing Technique of the Uzumaki clan After losing my Jutsu, I've been studying the ruins and documents of the now lost clan. What did Minato mean that is lost is Jutsu or did I just miss something

    So about that chapter, I was laughing so much at the beginning. That way the First acts is funny and like everyone says it dose remind you of Naruto. The Second is very straight foreword, but what he did to the Uchihas he thought was the right thing to do at the time, even thought it turned out bad. (OFF TOPIC- if the Uchihas were the police of the village and the Uchihas are all gone then how took over the police force) Laugh when they asked Minato how he was and points to his back and shows he was the fourth best funny part and the First reaction was so surprising. I feel sorry for Minato cause he has to tell them that he died before the Third. Then finding out Tsunade is the fifth, and a little about her past little Tsunade was so cute and she had money at the time. I wonder what is was like when the First and Second were growing up? Was the second always like that to his older brother telling him to be quite. Still don't know what to think about the Uchihas when there eyes change cause they have to much love and they become crazy when they lose someone
    The last question Sasuke asked the First is a little confusion "what is the village, and what are the shinobi in the first place" Can't wait to know that answer, I can't even guess what the First will say.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 619 Discussion and 620 Predictions

    i believe sasuke is about to find out
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 619 Discussion and 620 Predictions

    5/5 now Sasuke is getting more information and will definitely arrive in a conclusion sooner or later. That conclusion however is too early to be predicted.
    There are a lot to be considered. The information from the 2nd and 3rd Hokages will bear most weight on Sasuke's "change of Heart " or his "grudge".
    for the next chapter i look forward into understanding more. and also a bit of jutsu from 1st and 2nd Hokages
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 619 Discussion and 620 Predictions

    Hashirama, the God of Shinobi... is a total derp. I lolled at how Tobirama ordered Hashirama to be quiet. Tobirama seems like a bit of a **** with good intentions (Sort of like Danzo I guess).
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 619 Discussion and 620 Predictions

    anyone remember what Tobi once said?
    "The moment people come to know love, they run the risk of carrying hate."
    it correlates with what Tobirama said.
    & if you think about it he was all nice and bubbly until Rin was killed.
    (I'm still wondering why Kakashi killed her)
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 619 Discussion and 620 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Nolo23 View Post
    Great Chapter 5/5 things that erk me after re thinking the story so far...
    1. im mad that kishi hinted that way back in the 1st saga when the third was fighting Oro that Oro could had brought back the 4th Hokage even tho he was sealed by the death god and he had yet to break the seal on the shiki stomach. maybe thats y he let the third stop Oro from summoning him so he can save that hidden scroll plot till now..
    2. I hate that im confused about if u can switch b/w ems n ms. and if u can whats the point
    3. and can some enlighten me about y Obito lied to sasuke about the 9 tails attack and where the hell would itachi b in all that was he already out the village or not alive yet im asking cause it obvious he was way stronger than kakashi at a young age and kakashi wasnt really revelant during the attack
    For the answer to 3 in the chapters when the attack was explained sasuke was 3 months old and itachi was about 9 yrs old taking care of sasuke. Theres a panel tht shows itachi looking at the battle calming sasuke down. The attack was after obito and kakashi getting sharingan. Kakashi could have been stronger and the only people that were "relevant" were minato, kushina and naruto. What could have itachi done? Stop the raging 9 tails. No he couldnt. I like the point you made in 1 though ^-^ sorry if i sound rude.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 619 Discussion and 620 Predictions

    "Uhhhh, and who are you??..............*Minato turns his back* "I'm the fourth!!!" that's comedy.....it's like everyone knew who everyone was except him.....and what makes it even better. the FIRST just KNEW the village was gonna be in a saddened, fallen state when he found out his granddaughter was the Hokage....lol EPIC!!!!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 619 Discussion and 620 Predictions

    If we want to bring the Uchiha curse all the way back to the age of the six path sage, we can say that the elder brother felt so much love for his father that he felt his younger brother would ruin his will, and therefore started the whole trickling of hate.

    I continue to believe that the depiction of Hashirama was appropriate. He seems like someone with the charisma to make even his enemies begrudgingly listen to him. And once they listen and discover that his intentions are just, that is when they start to like him. "Talk no jutsu" as is often used here, is the ability to make someone actually listen to what it is you have to say. From there on, it's your intentions that either win allies, and create enemies. From what I saw, Tobirama lacks the ability to make enemies listen to what he has to say. He could have never been the first hokage. But he was a necessary second.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 619 Discussion and 620 Predictions

    Hashirama's personality is like Goku and Tobirama is like Vageta. Tobirama may be more aggressive but Hashi will kick his ass in a heart beat.

    I didnt like how much of an ass tobi is. I didnt like that Hashi is so goofy like Goku. I like that Kishi made it work though. Loved that Hashi asked the 4th who he was and how excited Hashi got at a 4th Hokage. And concerned that Tsunade was the 5th.
     
         

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