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    Re: Todays chapter confirms that Uchiha > Senju

    Quote Originally Posted by ~Sovereign~ View Post
    how did you come up with this?

    its states MADARA as an individual, not uchiha clan as a whole
    Because it's highly possible to happen within a huge clan like Uchiha.
    Tobirama was a bit selfish. And didn't entrust Uchiha.
    He wanted Senju above Uchiha in Konoha.
     
         

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    Re: Todays chapter confirms that Uchiha > Senju

    Tobirama seemed scared of the Uchiha's or Madara
     
         

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    Re: Todays chapter confirms that Uchiha > Senju

    Quote Originally Posted by Y3llovv fla5h View Post
    Tru but none the less he still out cast them in a way by making the police headquarters in the same building as the jail in the outskirts of the village....
    This is true, agreed but also sad for his personality.
     
         

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    Re: Todays chapter confirms that Uchiha > Senju

    That's why Madara lost right? Madara lost mito to hashirama that's why he acted b.itch made. Deny it if you want but you know it to be true.
     
         

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    Re: Todays chapter confirms that Uchiha > Senju

    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasJeffersonwasasadist View Post
    That's why Madara lost right? Madara lost mito to hashirama that's why he acted b.itch made. Deny it if you want but you know it to be true.
    This is a rumor to me.

    His hatred grew because of the lost of his brother. Which turned into a great power beyond Senju's power.
     
         
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    Re: Todays chapter confirms that Uchiha > Senju

    Actually, its a prove why uchiha could simply easily manipulated and died, thats y there are only 4 of them alive until now including 2 Edos.
     
         

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    Re: Todays chapter confirms that Uchiha > Senju

    Quote Originally Posted by AirWind View Post
    Actually, its a prove why uchiha could simply easily manipulated and died, thats y there are only 4 of them alive until now including 2 Edos.
    Tsunade is the only survivor of her clan. If you're not counting Uzumaki.

    Tobirama was a bit selfish with that statement.
     
         

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    Re: Todays chapter confirms that Uchiha > Senju

    Quote Originally Posted by Champ View Post
    Tobirama seemed scared of the Uchiha's or Madara
    madara as an individual not the entire clan

    Quote Originally Posted by MrSimple View Post
    Because it's highly possible to happen within a huge clan like Uchiha.
    Tobirama was a bit selfish. And didn't entrust Uchiha.
    He wanted Senju above Uchiha in Konoha.
    this is your opinion, nothing is confirmed in this chapter about the entire clan being better than the senju clan

    just madara was confirm and it didnt even literally say madara was better it just hyped him obviously
     
         

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    Re: Todays chapter confirms that Uchiha > Senju

    Quote Originally Posted by MrSimple View Post
    Tsunade is the only survivor of her clan. If you're not counting Uzumaki.

    Tobirama was a bit selfish with that statement.
    Senju lineage of heritance is widely spread from their ancestors, in the other words means there must be some inter clan marriage happened, but its not in Uchiha's clan problem, where they just keep uchiha blood just between themselves and therefore we already see them wiped away instantly.
     
         

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    Re: Todays chapter confirms that Uchiha > Senju

    Quote Originally Posted by ~Sovereign~ View Post
    madara as an individual not the entire clan
    this is your opinion, nothing is confirmed in this chapter about the entire clan being better than the senju clan
    Well, it is what the manga presenting to us.
    Why did he act though right next to Hashirama?
    For me he acknowledge the power of Uchiha and tried to protect Senju itself not the village.

    So I'm disappointed.

    Quote Originally Posted by AirWind View Post
    Senju lineage of heritance is widely spread from their ancestors, in the other words means there must be some inter clan marriage happened, but its not in Uchiha's clan problem, where they just keep uchiha blood just between themselves and therefore we already see them wiped away instantly.
    Because you're missing the point that Tobirama was trying to protect Senju itself and not the village.

    That was a bit selfish of him.
     
         
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    Re: Todays chapter confirms that Uchiha > Senju

    Quote Originally Posted by MrSimple View Post
    Well, it is what the manga presenting to us.
    Why did he act though right next to Hashirama?
    For me he acknowledge the power of Uchiha and tried to protect Senju itself not the village.

    So I'm disappointed.



    Because you're missing the point that Tobirama was trying to protect Senju itself and not the village.

    That was a bit selfish of him.
    If u followed closely by what he really meant, that uchiha clan is possessed by EVIL, so how could you said it is a selfish act?
     
         

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    Re: Todays chapter confirms that Uchiha > Senju

    Quote Originally Posted by AirWind View Post
    If u followed closely by what he really meant, that uchiha clan is possessed by EVIL, so how could you said it is a selfish act?
    Their love growing into a hatred which > Senju's love.
    The lose of their lover gives them the power to be apart with Senju.
    Tobirama acknowledge it and feared Madara.
     
         

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    Re: Todays chapter confirms that Uchiha > Senju

    Quote Originally Posted by MrSimple View Post
    It's confirmed now that Madara was stronger than Tobirama so Tobirama was scared.

    Todays chapter confirms that their love growing stronger enough so they can go along with Senju and eventually the reflection of their love turns into a great power that is beyond Senju's love.
    Their hatred of loosing their comrade giving them the power of EMS.

    That's why Tobirama is happy that Uchiha are annihilated now.
    How does love get them a EMS?
     
         

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    Re: Todays chapter confirms that Uchiha > Senju

    Actually it's not a confirmation of anything.
    It's just that their strong power of love awakens the sharingan...
     
         

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    Re: Todays chapter confirms that Uchiha > Senju

    Quote Originally Posted by Chatte View Post
    Actually it's not a confirmation of anything.
    It's just that their strong power of love awakens the sharingan...
    You missed my point Chatte. ^^

    But I'll wait for mangastream translation better, yeah.
     
         

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    Re: Todays chapter confirms that Uchiha > Senju

    Quote Originally Posted by MrSimple View Post
    Their love growing into a hatred which > Senju's love.
    The lose of their lover gives them the power to be apart with Senju.
    Tobirama acknowledge it and feared Madara.
    Here's my 2 cents of thinking, how matter strong we are, even if we saw one maniac (that we know he's one) holding a gun roaming your house area, what will u feel? Do you fear for yourself or for the one you love?
     
         

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    Re: Todays chapter confirms that Uchiha > Senju

    Quote Originally Posted by AirWind View Post
    Here's my 2 cents of thinking, how matter strong we are, even if we saw one maniac (that we know he's one) holding a gun roaming your house area, what will u feel? Do you fear for yourself or for the one you love?
    Tbh the union between Senju and Uchiha should never happened. Both Tobirama and Madara acted like their clan should be above the other one.

    This was an endless fight.
     
         

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    Re: Todays chapter confirms that Uchiha > Senju

    Quote Originally Posted by MrSimple View Post
    Tbh the union between Senju and Uchiha should never happened. Both Tobirama and Madara acted like their clan should be above the other one.

    This was an endless fight.
    Uchiha gained power to surpress another living being and senju hafta surpressed uchiha in order to control that uncontrolable fate, its so simple as that my friend
     
         

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    Re: Todays chapter confirms that Uchiha > Senju

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    Uchiha gained power to surpress another living being and senju hafta surpressed uchiha in order to control that uncontrolable fate, its so simple as that my friend
    Which proves for 1 more time that Tobirama acted selfish to suppress another being. He putted his clan above the village.
     
         
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    Re: Todays chapter confirms that Uchiha > Senju

    Tobirama didn't really make the Uchiah seem stronger he just explained how and why there power increases so much. Itachi understood it which is the reason he left Sasuke alive to avenge his clan and their reputation. Yes they were powerful and yes they basically destroyed themselves but in the end Senju lasted longer, Hashirama was stronger than their stronger than their strongest Uchiha, and even though Naruto is not a Senju he will end the Manga either with the death of Sasuke or defeat of him. So in the end the Uchiha still loses even though they are very powerful.

    So to say that they were so powerful, as they were I am not doubting that but they were controlled and they were destroyed by their own kind. Like Tobirama said it would have happened sooner or later and yes once again just like Hashirama had done someone would have stopped the fighting. Cause after all of that nothing is stonger than the WILL OF FIRE!!!

    Even though I said all those misunderstood things about the Uchiha, Itachi to me is on a whole different arena, league, ballpark. I like the guy more as he was more than just an Uchiha and more of a very loyal Shinobi that would do anything for his village and more so for his brother.
     
         
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