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    Could Itachi have created the Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror for himself?

    For as long as Itachi has been shown wielding these weapons I have been wondering how he could have found them and where he could have found them? Well after reading this latest manga chapter It has started to make me think about this possibility for him to have these weapons in his arsenal. My theory is that when he awoke his Mangekyou the weapons were created or given to him as well. Now before I go further into this please read this thread as a reference
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    Now in the thread it shows that both the Yata Mirror and Sword of Totsuka have no physical form. That being said It could be anything made from nothing. The thread above shows how the mirror has changed it size and we know that the sword can clearly change its size as well. Now if these objects can change their appearance then this is where I believe Itachi created them or received them. I hate using Harry Potter references but this one deals with the sorting hat and the sword of Griffindor. At first Harry pulls it out in the Chamber of Secrets when he needed the sword most. How convenient right? When the minister of magic informs Harry Potter that he cannot receive the sword of Griffindor because it is not Dumbledore’s to give. He goes on to tell him that any true Griffindor may summon the sword through the sorting hat. This is where I made the connection with Itachi. In the latest manga it shows Itachi at a young age learning from the old ruins that people were not concerned with any more.

    In reality anything can be written on those slabs and he could have learned about the history of the weapons and what they can do. Even Hiruzen states that he had the knowledge of a Hokage at the age of 7. By the time he had obtained the Mangekyou his knowledge greatly increased and chance of him learning about the weapons greatly increases. The more interesting part of this theory is in the next manga page below

    In this page Tobirama is talking about how the sharingan reflects the user’s feelings. Madara in this case has a lot of hatred inside of him and his Susanoo shows how much hate he has by giving him more power. Itachi’s Susanoo is very powerful but in a different way. His power is about destruction but about protection. Itachi has always been thinking about others before himself (mainly the village) but most importantly Sasuke. Everything he did was in order to protect Sasuke and when you really think about the Sword of Totsuka and the Yata Mirror they really aren’t weapons to be compared to Madaras Susanoo. Madaras main abilty is offense while Itachis is defense. With his personality I believe he unlocked the weapons a little after the Uchiha massacre. The sharingan reflects his feelings and seeing Sasuke must have helped unlocked them for him. The reason I also say after the massacre is because if he had them before Obito would have known and there would have been no reason for white and black zetsu to be surprised when Itachi wielded them. Of course I could be wrong; he could have unlocked them at the same time as Susanoo but never used Susanoo during the massacre. But that is an unknown factor. I know this is a long read guys but I do hope you enjoy the read. Thank you for your time.
     
         

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    Re: Could Itachi have created the Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror for himself?

    i think he found it because oro was looking for the totsuka sword
     
         

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    Re: Could Itachi have created the Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror for himself?

    Given, he hasn't "created" anything.
    Cause... oro already knew of Sword of Totsuka and has been looking for it for his entire life (obviously he's lived more than Itachi)
     
         

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    Re: Could Itachi have created the Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror for himself?

    he's too emotional
     
         

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    Re: Could Itachi have created the Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror for himself?

    Quote Originally Posted by duken fist View Post
    i think he found it because oro was looking for the totsuka sword
    I know that he was looking for it. But when you think about it Orochimaru has found alot of things yet he wasnt able to find the sword of totsuka? Once Itachi had it there really would not be any way for him to find it.
     
         

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    Re: Could Itachi have created the Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror for himself?

    Quote Originally Posted by AnimusOra View Post
    I know that he was looking for it. But when you think about it Orochimaru has found alot of things yet he wasnt able to find the sword of totsuka? Once Itachi had it there really would not be any way for him to find it.
    Ok... so that post basically says "NO" to the thread's title
     
         

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    Re: Could Itachi have created the Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror for himself?

    Even if it wasnt created that is to strong in other words i believed he summoned the weapons
     
         

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    Re: Could Itachi have created the Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror for himself?

    Given Kishi's huge B0ner for him, I wouldn't be suprised.

    Heck, next thing you know, it'll turn out he created the Juubi and Mokuton himself.....

    PS: I'm not an itachi hater, I'm just a regular fan who feels like Itachi's too hyped up
     
         

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    Re: Could Itachi have created the Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror for himself?

    Quote Originally Posted by AnimusOra View Post
    Even if it wasnt created that is to strong in other words i believed he summoned the weapons
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    Re: Could Itachi have created the Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror for himself?

    Oro was looking for it, so itachi couldn't have created it..Failed thread.
     
         

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    Re: Could Itachi have created the Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror for himself?

    Quote Originally Posted by PredictionGuru View Post
    Ok... so that post basically says "NO" to the thread's title
    I suppose i should have elaborated more. When i meant created i should have stated summon. The reason i used created was for the meaning that the objects have no physical form.
     
         

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    Re: Could Itachi have created the Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror for himself?

    Quote Originally Posted by AnimusOra View Post
    Even if it wasnt created that is to strong in other words i believed he summoned the weapons
    this should be most plausible
     
         

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    Re: Could Itachi have created the Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror for himself?

    How could he create something he found? If Itachi was the to awaken those legendary weapons, why would Orochimaru be looking for them? How would he know about them since when Itachi sealed him I believe that was his first time witnessing it.
     
         

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    Re: Could Itachi have created the Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror for himself?

    Quote Originally Posted by AnimusOra View Post
    I suppose i should have elaborated more. When i meant created i should have stated summon. The reason i used created was for the meaning that the objects have no physical form.
    Nobody in this thread had known that create is a synonym for summon thanks for enlightening us

    sorry our bad man
     
         

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    Re: Could Itachi have created the Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror for himself?

    I dont think so, Orochimaru has been looking for the totsuka all his life, so
     
         

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    Re: Could Itachi have created the Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror for himself?

    Doubtful. They are quite accurately described as being some of the SO6P's creations. The main reason Itachi found them, was as the 3rd described very well, he had kage-level knowledge at a very young age.

    If you think about it, both weapons appears to be spiritual creations. So it's understandable that Oro couldn't find them. Only the sharingan, can probably see them, when they are inactivated. That probably explains, why Itachi was able to find them. Of course combined with his knowledge, but we can only assume, Oro possessed the same amount of knowledge, but just wasn't able to figure out the last part (needing sharingan).
     
         

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    Re: Could Itachi have created the Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror for himself?

    im thinking what if the totsuka blade and shield is something awoken through susanoo by some means(example: maybe by wanting to protect someone). oro heard legends about the sword and shield but never knew who wielded them. maybe an uchiha or uchiha's wielded them the swords and shield. or this

    Quote Originally Posted by thegame View Post
    Doubtful. They are quite accurately described as being some of the SO6P's creations. The main reason Itachi found them, was as the 3rd described very well, he had kage-level knowledge at a very young age.

    If you think about it, both weapons appears to be spiritual creations. So it's understandable that Oro couldn't find them. Only the sharingan, can probably see them, when they are inactivated. That probably explains, why Itachi was able to find them. Of course combined with his knowledge, but we can only assume, Oro possessed the same amount of knowledge, but just wasn't able to figure out the last part (needing sharingan).
    but unless kishi really says something about it, we will never know for sure, so your guess is as good as mine. u can believe whatever you want to make yourself feel better
     
         

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    Re: Could Itachi have created the Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror for himself?

    Neither were created by Itachi himself. IF you look at the folklore that the idea came from, it makes it seem like they might have been something that came along with his susanoo, but i don't believe this is the case in the narutoverse.
     
         

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    Re: Could Itachi have created the Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror for himself?

    Quote Originally Posted by AnimusOra View Post
    Even if it wasnt created that is to strong in other words i believed he summoned the weapons
    That makes more sense. Saying he 'created' those items sounds more like he made them, but summoned is different. In that sense i agree with you.
     
         

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    Re: Could Itachi have created the Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror for himself?

    He didnt create these weapons.

    Following japanese mythology the Totsuka Sword and Yata Mirror cant be found or taken. The items pick their wielders themself, and only someone with a pure heart will have to chance to wield these items.

    This would perfectly explain why Orochimaru, the smartest person in the entire Narutoverse who knows pretty much every secret, couldnt find the items his entire life. He lacks the pure heart.
    Itachi on the other hand has a pure heart as we were shown later on.


    Now that Itachi is dead the items will pick a new wielder. Sasuke currently lacks the pure heart but he isnt full of hatred either, Im sure that he will get the items if he changes after the talk with the Hokage´s.

    Either Sasuke or no one (because the Items are maybe too OP and Kishi wants to get rid of them). I dont think that someone besides Sasuke will get the items, wouldnt fit anyone else.
     
         

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    Re: Could Itachi have created the Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror for himself?

    To anyone else who is reading this thread the correction is that Itachi summoned the weapons not created
     
         

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    Re: Could Itachi have created the Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror for himself?

    nope. he found them because it seems that like orochimaru, itachi was doing a lot of digging around from the time he was young. perhaps the naraka shrine has something to do with it as well, maybe it leaves hints as to where the weapons were since black zetsu had knowledge of it and tobi was sneaking in to read the tablet.
     
         

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