[Discussion] Sanji Vs Smoker

[VariaBossX]

Dude, seriously. It's Sanji's leg

i still don't see it

[Tybone]

literally look up at the manga scan above^^ i posted it twice

What part is referring to the cracking? The bones belong to Sanji like I explained and if you're talking about whatever sound effect shown in the panel through those kanji it doesn't prove a thing.

[jonsnow1991]

i still don't see it

Hehe :P Ok, the first picture, you see Vergo do a kick, and Sanji blocking it. Next picture, you can see that it is the same left leg/foot landing on the same place Sanji blocks it. Third picture, you Sanji's face in agony.

Hope this explanation helps. If not, then I'll have to write in my first language, and that won't make any sense anyways

[Itachi Minato]

re read that chapter. Later on Sanji even admits that he would not be able to take another kick and that it would break his leg. Im on my phone so i cant find the manga page but i will show you later.

[ziggyZ]

M3 > all (EoS)

[VariaBossX]

point is that sanji stalemated him for a while, i'm aware that vergo would of damage his legs but sanji was holding back as well. He diablo kicked him once and he was sent flying, after that he was fight with just his normal leg.

[Itachi Minato]

point is that sanji stalemated him for a while, i'm aware that vergo would of damage his legs but sanji was holding back as well. He diablo kicked him once and he was sent flying, after that he was fight with just his normal leg.

You are so wrong. He kicked and sent him flying while he was unprepared. How you see Vergo`s leg being cracked is beyond me since it doesnt show any damage to his legs but a crack on Sanji`s and his pained expression in the next panel proves it.

http://www.onepiecebay.net/manga/One-Piece/682/5

Here you should take your own advice and read the manga. Sanji leg is in pain and he even implies that if the fight continues he would lose. Unfortunately Oda does not show us the whole fight but Vergo clearly had the advantage since the next time we see him he does not seem damaged at all and proceeds to beat law.
http://www.onepiecebay.net/manga/One-Piece/683/15
Also you have no proof that Sanji did not use haki whereas I have some that could be used as proof. http://www.onepiecebay.net/manga/One-Piece/681/16
Here he says "Its that steel like thing" showing that he knows Vergo is using haki and knowing this he should of definitely used haki himself. Its was a different translation where I read Sanji say he would of broken his leg but nonetheless I think my point has been proven. You are correct in saying that he stalemated him for a while but smoker also managed to hit him so really that mean nothing. He did about as good as sanji did. http://www.onepiecebay.net/manga/One-Piece/684/6 you also have no proof that he was holding back but a lady was in danger so I dont think he was
BTW how do you make it so that the manga page shows up and not the link like Varia did before in the thread??

[jonsnow1991]

You are so wrong. He kicked and sent him flying while he was unprepared. How you see Vergo`s leg being cracked is beyond me since it doesnt show any damage to his legs but a crack on Sanji`s and his pained expression in the next panel proves it.

http://www.onepiecebay.net/manga/One-Piece/682/5

Here you should take your own advice and read the manga. Sanji leg is in pain and he even implies that if the fight continues he would lose. Unfortunately Oda does not show us the whole fight but Vergo clearly had the advantage since the next time we see him he does not seem damaged at all and proceeds to beat law.
http://www.onepiecebay.net/manga/One-Piece/683/15
Also you have no proof that Sanji did not use haki whereas I have some that could be used as proof. http://www.onepiecebay.net/manga/One-Piece/681/16
Here he says "Its that steel like thing" showing that he knows Vergo is using haki and knowing this he should of definitely used haki himself. Its was a different translation where I read Sanji say he would of broken his leg but nonetheless I think my point has been proven. You are correct in saying that he stalemated him for a while but smoker also managed to hit him so really that mean nothing. He did about as good as sanji did. http://www.onepiecebay.net/manga/One-Piece/684/6
BTW how do you make it so that the manga page shows up and not the link like Varia did before in the thread??

Actually, I think Sanji refered to Tekkai, when he mentioned that steel thing. It really has nothing to do with this, but considering he used Shigan just a moment earlier, I think he might've used that. What if Vergo used a mixture of Tekkai and Haki? It really doesn't matter though, since he's dead now, but it would be cool

[Itachi Minato]

Actually, I think Sanji refered to Tekkai, when he mentioned that steel thing. It really has nothing to do with this, but considering he used Shigan just a moment earlier, I think he might've used that. What if Vergo used a mixture of Tekkai and Haki? It really doesn't matter though, since he's dead now, but it would be cool

ah yes you might be right about that but still the rest of my point i believe is correct. Also he may not be dead since Oda does not like to kill his characters. Can you answer my question from the end of my previous post??

[jonsnow1991]

ah yes you might be right about that but still the rest of my point i believe is correct. Also he may not be dead since Oda does not like to kill his characters. Can you answer my question from the end of my previous post??

Yeah, you might be right. Considering how strong his Haki/Tekkai is, he might have survived. Sorry, I can't answer your question, I don't know how to do it myself

[VariaBossX]

You are so wrong. He kicked and sent him flying while he was unprepared. How you see Vergo`s leg being cracked is beyond me since it doesnt show any damage to his legs but a crack on Sanji`s and his pained expression in the next panel proves it.

http://www.onepiecebay.net/manga/One-Piece/682/5

Here you should take your own advice and read the manga. Sanji leg is in pain and he even implies that if the fight continues he would lose. Unfortunately Oda does not show us the whole fight but Vergo clearly had the advantage since the next time we see him he does not seem damaged at all and proceeds to beat law.
http://www.onepiecebay.net/manga/One-Piece/683/15
Also you have no proof that Sanji did not use haki whereas I have some that could be used as proof. http://www.onepiecebay.net/manga/One-Piece/681/16
Here he says "Its that steel like thing" showing that he knows Vergo is using haki and knowing this he should of definitely used haki himself. Its was a different translation where I read Sanji say he would of broken his leg but nonetheless I think my point has been proven. You are correct in saying that he stalemated him for a while but smoker also managed to hit him so really that mean nothing. He did about as good as sanji did. http://www.onepiecebay.net/manga/One-Piece/684/6 you also have no proof that he was holding back but a lady was in danger so I dont think he was
BTW how do you make it so that the manga page shows up and not the link like Varia did before in the thread??

I don't know were your getting at but here is the difference between sanji's attack and smoker is that he's blowed him through the wall http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/106/6...?v=11347360787
We seen Law use powerful attacks that didn't faze vergo but in the end when he got serious, Law butchered vergo like butter. So when i see sanji do
against vergo and still stands, then i'll be convince other wise no

[Fubar]

It's no where near a close fight unless Sanji has haki.
If he does then I'd say yes, its a very close fight.

[Itachi Minato]

I don't know were your getting at but here is the difference between sanji's attack and smoker is that he's blowed him through the wall http://z.mhcdn.net/store/manga/106/6...?v=11347360787
We seen Law use powerful attacks that didn't faze vergo but in the end when he got serious, Law butchered vergo like butter. So when i see sanji do
against vergo and still stands, then i'll be convince other wise no

It took laws strongest attack to take out Vergo and in the process he took at a half the island. If you think that hell memories is as strong as that then fine thats your opinion but I dont think it is. Also it is unconfirmed if Sanji has boushoku haki since Luffy only said "me, Zoro and Sanji have haki" he did not say which type. Anyway its clear you wont change your opinion and I wont change mine so jets just agree to disagree. Btw How do you make the manga page come up and not the link???

[VariaBossX]

It took laws strongest attack to take out Vergo and in the process he took at a half the island. If you think that hell memories is as strong as that then fine thats your opinion but I dont think it is. Also it is unconfirmed if Sanji has boushoku haki since Luffy only said "me, Zoro and Sanji have haki" he did not say which type. Anyway its clear you wont change your opinion and I wont change mine so jets just agree to disagree. Btw How do you make the manga page come up and not the link???

The manga page comes from mangahere, usually it shows the link in the bottom. Beside that Law asked if anyone has haki to fight ceasar and Luffy said zoro and sanji. Wish zoro demonstrated when he fought Monet, personally if zoro has armor haki it's safe to sanji MIGHT have armor haki as well. I'm pretty sure that that cutting move is not laws strongest move, smoker has yet to beat one person in that show because even ceasar knocked him out too.

[Itachi Minato]

The manga page comes from mangahere, usually it shows the link in the bottom. Beside that Law asked if anyone has haki to fight ceasar and Luffy said zoro and sanji. Wish zoro demonstrated when he fought Monet, personally if zoro has armor haki it's safe to sanji MIGHT have armor haki as well. I'm pretty sure that that cutting move is not laws strongest move, smoker has yet to beat one person in that show because even ceasar knocked him out too.

well its the strongest we have seen. I personally think you are underrating smoker here since he is meant to be the garp to luffy and im sure he will get his chance to shine