Misconception about Mei Terumi's Boil Release.

[Shikamaru101]

There is a common misconception about the Boil Release that of Mei Terumi. Many people say that it can not be used in open areas and only in enclosed spaces, but i will attempt to disprove this.

Mei can use Hidden Mist Style as well as the Acid Mist. When she has used her Hidden Mist, she has used it in open spaces and it has worked. This is also shown again when Zabuza fought Team Kakashi. The Hidden Mist style worked in an open area and obscured vision. Now onto Boil release which is nearly identical to Hidden Mist however it is acidic in nature. If Mei can successfully use Hidden Mist in a open environment, then surely she can use Boil release in a open environment although it will not be as effective. If Zabuza can affect the environment in such a way that it obscures vision, i am confident that Mei can too with Hidden Mist and her Boil Release.

Why do people think she can not use it in open areas? For one, against Sasuke she enclosed the room to use it against him. This does not necessarily mean that it has to be used this way, it is just more effective.

Also, when Mei deactivated the jutsu when a hole had been created in the room does not show us it could not be used in open areas as the reason why it was deactivated was to PROTECT THE KAGE etc. Otherwise, they would have been affected by it.

Why hasn't Mei used Boil release in open areas? Because she has never fought by herself. She has always fought with team mates and using the acid mist will harm them as well as the opponent.

Now onto it's uses in battle. Mei could potentially combine the Acid Mist and Hidden Mist to, firstly obscure the opponent's vision and also to keep them away from herself otherwise they would be affected by the acidity.

To conclude, Mei's acid mist can most likely be used in open areas as well as enclosed areas, due to Hidden Mist working in open areas etc.

[Owarij]

Eh? no, She can use it in open areas.. It's just that logically, a gas//mist wont be as effective in an open field when compared to an enclosed area

[Retsu]

honestly it's sad that this has to be addressed, but i agree

[meowNverse]

Agree she can use it in open areas.
It will be more effective in a closed area though, like any other gas.
and the main reason she closed the area anyway, was because it wouldnt leak to the other kages, not because it was required to close the area to use it, like some people believe. So yeah, she can use it in open ares.

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

The reason she can use hidden mist in open area's is because the mist comes from the water in the automosphrere....
The acid mist thing she creates it there's no acid in automosphrere so it will just evaporate -_-
Everybody should know this
Ppl tend to overrate Mei by far she is the weakest Kage
Seeing as the mist is the weakest village (yes weaker then the Suna witch is not tht weak just kinda poor compared to stone lead and lighting yes it would appear weak)
If she were in any village she would b a mid joinin with flashy abilities at best...

[AizenSosuke]

Agree she can use it in open areas.
It will be more effective in a closed area though, like any other gas.
and the main reason she closed the area anyway, was because it wouldnt leak to the other kages, not because it was required to close the area to use it, like some people believe. So yeah, she can use it in open ares.

This^^

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Also tht asumption tht she didn't use it because of the other kages against madara is false as u seen when madara used his own poisen like jutsu (the pollen flower tree world thing) gaara was able to raise the kages up in an instant so they wouldn't be harmed or breath it in
Hence if she were able to use it outside it wouldn't harm them cuz gaara can raise them above it

She can't use it in open area's ...

[meowNverse]

Also tht asumption tht she didn't use it because of the other kages against madara is false as u seen when madara used his own poisen like jutsu (the pollen flower tree world thing) gaara was able to raise the kages up in an instant so they wouldn't be harmed or breath it in
Hence if she were able to use it outside it wouldn't harm them cuz gaara can raise them above it

She can't use it in open area's ...

Maybe you are right though but maybe not.
Why would she use it in the madara fight? it is quite mobile and the gas doesnt seem to be.
The lava has more speed and can be thrown quicker on the opponent.
Same goes for the water jutsus.

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Maybe you are right though but maybe not.
Why would she use it in the madara fight? it is quite mobile and the gas doesnt seem to be.
The lava has more speed and can be thrown quicker on the opponent.
Same goes for the water jutsus.

Lava has no speed feats hell even Karin dodged it
Mei even knew this and had A try to push him into it

Why would she use it u ask
Well for one she can't but if she could she would've used it to destroy the poisen Forrest by melting it like she melted sasuke Susanno there r other ways it can b used but
Ur assumption because hidden mist can b used is invalid because mist comes from the rain/moisture in the air
Acid mist is created there is no acid in automosphrere to carry the mist through the areas thus letting it evaporate

In a closed area it wouldn't evaporate because is sealed in the air....

[Shikamaru101]

Lava has no speed feats hell even Karin dodged it
Mei even knew this and had A try to push him into it

Why would she use it u ask
Well for one she can't but if she could she would've used it to destroy the poisen Forrest by melting it like she melted sasuke Susanno there r other ways it can b used but
Ur assumption because hidden mist can b used is invalid because mist comes from the rain/moisture in the air
Acid mist is created there is no acid in automosphrere to carry the mist through the areas thus letting it evaporate

In a closed area it wouldn't evaporate because is sealed in the air....

Do you read the manga? Mei WAS NOT aiming for Karin. She was aiming for the wall to cover it up so she could run around the outside and enclose Sasuke. I repeat, Karin dodged something that was not aimed at her.

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Do you read the manga? Mei WAS NOT aiming for Karin. She was aiming for the wall to cover it up so she could run around the outside and enclose Sasuke. I repeat, Karin dodged something that was not aimed at her.

It was targeted at the wall witch sasuke an Karin was standing in front of if she would've stood there she would've been hit..... It was aimed at her in a sence

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Do you read the manga? Mei WAS NOT aiming for Karin. She was aiming for the wall to cover it up so she could run around the outside and enclose Sasuke. I repeat, Karin dodged something that was not aimed at her.

As the OP u shouldn't meddle in little arguments between ppl
If u read the other guys comment u see why I brong up lava release

Anyways back to the topic no Mei cannot use boil release in open area's it will just evaporate

[Shikamaru101]

It was targeted at the wall witch sasuke an Karin was standing in front of if she would've stood there she would've been hit..... It was aimed at her in a sence

You don't understand the point. She was not aiming for Karin so she did not miss her. She was aiming for the wall and she hit the wall. If she was aiming for Karin, do you not think she would have tried again to get her?

[meowNverse]

Lava has no speed feats hell even Karin dodged it
Mei even knew this and had A try to push him into it

Why would she use it u ask
Well for one she can't but if she could she would've used it to destroy the poisen Forrest by melting it like she melted sasuke Susanno there r other ways it can b used but
Ur assumption because hidden mist can b used is invalid because mist comes from the rain/moisture in the air
Acid mist is created there is no acid in automosphrere to carry the mist through the areas thus letting it evaporate

In a closed area it wouldn't evaporate because is sealed in the air....

I dont care about real life science in a Naruto fiction world.
So all the talk about evaporating doesnt seem important to me. Earth gets countered by lightning in this manga and that doesnt make sense either so if boil release, made out of water and fire, can hang around (due to comming from her mouth), than that is fine by me.

Why would she use boil release on the pollen if a simple dodge cost less chakra?

Lava is not among the fastests, that is true.

Something that makes her look quite weak is the fact that she cant control the mist. With that I dont mean the acid lvl, but the direction the mist goes to. Not having that control looks like she still has a long way to go.

Not being able to control the direction it moves to, makes it quite weak in open area's, cause it could just move to where you dont want it to move, like away from your target or to you and your teammates.

Maybe that is the biggest problem in open areas, whereas it would stay put in a closed area.

Dont you think so?

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

I dont care about real life science in a Naruto fiction world.
So all the talk about evaporating doesnt seem important to me. Earth gets countered by lightning in this manga and that doesnt make sense either so if boil release, made out of water and fire, can hang around (due to comming from her mouth), than that is fine by me.

Why would she use boil release on the pollen if a simple dodge cost less chakra?

Lava is not among the fastests, that is true.

Something that makes her look quite weak is the fact that she cant control the mist. With that I dont mean the acid lvl, but the direction the mist goes to. Not having that control looks like she still has a long way to go.

Not being able to control the direction it moves to, makes it quite weak in open area's, cause it could just move to where you dont want it to move, like away from your target or to you and your teammates.

Maybe that is the biggest problem in open areas, whereas it would stay put in a closed area.

Dont you think so?

If she was able to use boil release on pollen it would've melted thus saving the kages she was **** out of luck there was no dodging if gaara wasn't there she would've died then as there along with A and tsuande well tsuande could've summoned her thing to stand y'all above the Forrest


True naruto does change up some of the rules

But how they explained natures like tht (vapor release storm release ) among other water like styles it still uses logic

For a Kage yes Mei is pretty weak but she's mid to high joinin she just lacks confidence stamina enduerence and a good fighting style majority of her moves have to b great only on certain things (example areas for one) so she's a game of chance as a fighter
There's a junjurchi tht munipulates lava
But she's not it so ehhh
Even if u dnt except tht Mei has never used acid mist in open out door terrain so who gives u or anyone else the right to say otherwise
At least my argument is based on the fact tht she has indeed never used it outdoors..

Kages
Onooki
Gaara
A>=tsuande
Tsuande
Mei

[KakuzuHatesMoney]

The reason she can use hidden mist in open area's is because the mist comes from the water in the automosphrere....
The acid mist thing she creates it there's no acid in automosphrere so it will just evaporate -_-
Everybody should know this
Ppl tend to overrate Mei by far she is the weakest Kage
Seeing as the mist is the weakest village (yes weaker then the Suna witch is not tht weak just kinda poor compared to stone lead and lighting yes it would appear weak)
If she were in any village she would b a mid joinin with flashy abilities at best...

Kisame was from the mist. He was an absolute beast.

[meowNverse]

If she was able to use boil release on pollen it would've melted thus saving the kages she was **** out of luck there was no dodging if gaara wasn't there she would've died then as there along with A and tsuande well tsuande could've summoned her thing to stand y'all above the Forrest


True naruto does change up some of the rules

But how they explained natures like tht (vapor release storm release ) among other water like styles it still uses logic

For a Kage yes Mei is pretty weak but she's mid to high joinin she just lacks confidence stamina enduerence and a good fighting style majority of her moves have to b great only on certain things (example areas for one) so she's a game of chance as a fighter
There's a junjurchi tht munipulates lava
But she's not it so ehhh
Even if u dnt except tht Mei has never used acid mist in open out door terrain so who gives u or anyone else the right to say otherwise
At least my argument is based on the fact tht she has indeed never used it outdoors..

Kages
Onooki
Gaara
A>=tsuande
Tsuande
Mei

She didnt knew that Gaara would save them?
Okay, well she might not be able to use boil release outside in that case than.
Bit silly Kekkei genkai than, or she should create walls around someone with a roof and
floor and everything with earth release (which she has ).

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

She didnt knew that Gaara would save them?
Okay, well she might not be able to use boil release outside in that case than.
Bit silly Kekkei genkai than, or she should create walls around someone with a roof and
floor and everything with earth release (which she has ).

Wen I said she didn't know gaara would save them is saying she had no counter for the pollen Forrest tht would've killed her and without gaara she would b dead

[meowNverse]

Wen I said she didn't know gaara would save them is saying she had no counter for the pollen Forrest tht would've killed her and without gaara she would b dead

I dont know if she would have been able to create so much mist to kill all the pollen. She cant control the direction the mist moves, so its kinda a bad jutsu to use vs the pollen. It might float away and not even stay near the pollen or a boil mist of the same scale cant be used.

I cant remember if she was surprised that Gaara saved them or if she knew it would happen (and decided not to use boil release).

[tracytracy22]

The reason she can use hidden mist in open area's is because the mist comes from the water in the automosphrere....
The acid mist thing she creates it there's no acid in automosphrere so it will just evaporate -_-
Everybody should know this
Ppl tend to overrate Mei by far she is the weakest Kage
Seeing as the mist is the weakest village (yes weaker then the Suna witch is not tht weak just kinda poor compared to stone lead and lighting yes it would appear weak)
If she were in any village she would b a mid joinin with flashy abilities at best...

Overrated? Is that a joke? She one of the most underrated characters! But your right she probably is the weakest kage although I could definitely see her defeating Tsunade although it would very difficult.

[meowNverse]

Overrated? Is that a joke? She one of the most underrated characters! But your right she probably is the weakest kage although I could definitely see her defeating Tsunade although it would very difficult.

Mei has no speed feats and no defensive abilities shown, only offensive. Even if she could somehow keep boil release mist around her, that still wouldnt stop Tsunade during Byakugo.
How can she avoid getting 1hit KO by Tsunade during Byakugo? Tsunade can probably even do it without. Raikage could stomp her low diff too.

Its sad to see how Kishi seems to have forgotten (hopefully not on purpose) Terumi Mei.
She has not even been given any defensive moves (none shown at least) and no speed feats.

It would have been cool if Kishi made her more agile, like sneaking in mist, having descent speed like Zabuza and some silent killing moves or if that wouldnt be her style than some other unique form of fighting. Like covering herself in some water or lava armor or being able to use Houzuki jutsus for example.

[tracytracy22]

Mei has no speed feats and no defensive abilities shown, only offensive. Even if she could somehow keep boil release mist around her, that still wouldnt stop Tsunade during Byakugo.
How can she avoid getting 1hit KO by Tsunade during Byakugo? Tsunade can probably even do it without. Raikage could stomp her low diff too.

Its sad to see how Kishi seems to have forgotten (hopefully not on purpose) Terumi Mei.
She has not even been given any defensive moves (none shown at least) and no speed feats.

It would have been cool if Kishi made her more agile, like sneaking in mist, having descent speed like Zabuza and some silent killing moves or if that wouldnt be her style than some other unique form of fighting. Like covering herself in some water or lava armor or being able to use Houzuki jutsus for example.

Your right...she has no speed feats but she actually has shown defensive abilities and great reaction speed.



If she can keep boil release up, its actually kinda dangerous, even if Tsunade has her byakugo activated - it would just eat up her chakra even more as it would cause a continuous burn. She could keep Tsunade away using the pillar + dragon combo. And its obvious the raikage would defeat her easily but this isnt about him.

I agree with you in that Kishi could have made her more unique but I think she's great as she is. She very versatile - she can use 5 elements. Too bad we just saw her use the same jutsu over and over again.

Btw I think she might have shown a speed feat...

If you look at this first scan...all the kage are together and it looks like they're all pretty far away from Madara.



And then...Tsunade ends up attacking Madara. In the next scan, it looks like Madara was pushed back or jumps back a considerable distance and proceeds to attack Tsunade.



In the below scan, Mei is actually behind Madara/to his side when she uses her water dragon jutsu. So it looks like she crossed a considerable distance (madara was already far away from the kage to begin with but ends up moving further back when attacking Tsunade) in a very short time. The whole thing happened pretty quickly. But I dont know if this would be considered a speed feat.

[Shikamaru101]

I agree with tracey. She is far too underrated. Let's look at the feats she has done so far. Firstly, Madara Uchiha said 'he can't let himself get drawn into a technique of that level', about her lava. So actually it is quite powerful and dangerous as even Madara stated it.
Secondly, she is one of the greatest water users. She was able to counter a Uchiha's fire style which are supposedly the best so that shows she is capable defensive wise and also instantly she was able to counter attack with another Water Style. This was done with minimal water around her. Kisame could be better but all of his water moves have been executed with a large amont of water around him e.g. on turtle island with the sea around him.

[Nibi Yugito Nii]

Its a short and mid range justu she can use it in open areas

[bigfatloser]

The reason she can use hidden mist in open area's is because the mist comes from the water in the automosphrere....
The acid mist thing she creates it there's no acid in automosphrere so it will just evaporate -_-
Everybody should know this
Ppl tend to overrate Mei by far she is the weakest Kage
Seeing as the mist is the weakest village (yes weaker then the Suna witch is not tht weak just kinda poor compared to stone lead and lighting yes it would appear weak)
If she were in any village she would b a mid joinin with flashy abilities at best...

NO.

This is not how evaporation works. I read this whole topic waiting for someone to correct this completely incorrect science. A liquid evaporates when it's vapor pressure is greater then the surrounding pressure. This depends on two factors: the temperature of the liquid in question (increasing it's vapor pressure) and the surrounding pressure (typically ambient, that's why we say water evaporates at 100C.)

Evaporation has nothing to do with the amount of acid currently dissolved in the surrounding air (I'm assuming that's what you mean when you say atmosphere.) If you mean acid dissolved in the 'atmosphere' a mile above the surface of the earth, then sorry but whatever twisted logic is going on in your head is wrong, because acid does exist up there (acid rain ring a bell?) Maybe you think all the acid would dissolve into the oxygen, but given that the acid is in an aqueous form (as far as I can tell) this is just as likely to happen with water.

To the other readers of this topic: don't be so quick to accept pseudo-science as counter-claims. This isn't the first time I've seen blatantly incorrect science used for the justification of some stupid theory on how such and such would work in the naruto universe.