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    Misconception: Obito has always been stronger than Itachi

    Before Itachi fans flame me, i would like you to read the thread entirely please. Like the title say, i believe Obito has always been stronger than Itachi even before taking the Rinnengan. I personally thought it was obvious, but i saw people thinking otherwise. It's for that reason that i wanted to create this thread to clear up some misconceptions

    Misconception number1: Obito said Itachi could have killed him if he knew his secret



    "Fortunately, i managed to keep a few secrets even from him... If i had not, i'd be dead right now"

    Why are people missing the right now Obito said? right now = at the present situation, so Obito obviously talking about what just happened at the moment, he was talking about the amaterasu trap, it's that he thought could have killed him had Itachi knew his secret. It had no relation with a battle situation

    Secondly, why people forget the if he knew my secret? The fact remain that Itachi didn't know his secret and because of that his plan failed. This is a comparable situation to what Pain said about Jiraya. If Jiraya knew his secret, he would have won, but the fact remain that Jiraya didn't know and it's for that reason he lost

    Misconception number2: Obito couldn't attack Konoha because of Itachi, so Obito feared Itachi

    1- For those who really believe this, i would ask you something. What makes you believe Obito even wanted to attack the leaf at that moment to begin with? He spent 7years before even meeting Itachi. Why didn't he attack the leaf during that period? And suddenly after meeting Itachi, he would want to attack the leaf, but couldn't because of his fear?

    2- It's said in the manga by Itachi himself that Akatsuki needed to seal the Kyubi at last for the stability of the demonic statue. Obito's goal is to complete the moon eye plan by using the fully reformed Juubi, so for that he needed to seal the Kyubi at last. It's for that reason that attacking the leaf or obtaining the Kyubi at that moment was unnecessary. He had other plans, he was even already working on other stuffs like taking control of the Yondaime Mizukage and perfect Jinchuriki(Yagura) to make kirigakure and the Sanbi his. His plan was going well since Akatsuki on the other side could do the job of capturing all the tailed beast up to the 9tails while himself was hiding himself in the shadow and waiting

    Misconception number3: Obito never tried to kill Itachi

    Obito had no reason to kill Itachi and the manga made it clear, but apparently some people missed a great part of this manga. He had no reason to kill Itachi because:

    - He needed Itachi alive for Sasuke when the time come and take his revenge, awaken the Mangekyou Sharingan after killing Itachi himself, and manage to manipulate him to serve his own purposes. He was always waiting Sasuke patiently because he saw greater power in him and i suppose was easier to manipulate from his point of view. It's said in the manga that he was watching Sasuke's evolution and even in his databook

    Now that i think i cleared some misconceptions, i would like to ask those who believe Itachi was stronger something like this

    - Why didn't Itachi never try to kill someone like Obito when he probably knew he was a danger for the world?
    - Why did he wait his death to create a Amaterasu trap as a fail safe to kill Obito?

    The reason for me is simple. He wanted to save the world, but knew he wasn't strong enough to make a difference had a battle between the 2 had been, but since he knew he was going to die at some point, he tried with that amaterasu trap as a fail safe. Trying is always better than doing nothing anyway. Itachi knew however that Obito would try to manipulate Sasuke and serve his purposes and it's for that reason that he absolutely had to do something about it, reason why he wanted to use Kotoamatsukami to make him obey the leaf instead, unfortunately it also failed
     
         

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    Re: Misconception: Obito has always been stronger than Itachi

    Man, Bogard ,you used to be so cool. What the f*ck happened? O.o
    I know I should just respect your opinions, but they're ridiculous a lot of times.
    You use bias and bash every character that people believe are greater than your favs.
     
         
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    Re: Misconception: Obito has always been stronger than Itachi

    I agree
     
         

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    Re: Misconception: Obito has always been stronger than Itachi

    Yeah, i'd agree with this. Itachi is strong, but he doesn't have the tools needed to best a seasoned Kamui master.
     
         

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    Re: Misconception: Obito has always been stronger than Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by ItachiLeeHatake View Post
    Man, Bogard ,you used to be so cool. What the f*ck happened? O.o
    I know I should just respect your opinions, but they're ridiculous a lot of times.
    What do you mean??...this doesnt sound ridiculous at all....:sy:

    This is one of those times where i actually agree with you, nice thread :y
     
         

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    Re: Misconception: Obito has always been stronger than Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by ItachiLeeHatake View Post
    Man, Bogard ,you used to be so cool. What the f*ck happened? O.o
    I know I should just respect your opinions, but they're ridiculous a lot of times.
    You use bias and bash every character that people believe are greater than your favs.
    Don't forget it's bogard we're talking about. Itachi is way stronger than both Obito and Minato, it's just him denying it, like all the others who agree with this thread.

    Obito clearly said: ''Had he known about my secret'' his secret is obviously Kamui. Obito knew what Itachi was capable of, and Obito knew that Itachi would have been able to find a weakness in Kamui, Itachi has Kage Bunshins that can explode, this alone is an example to counter Kamui.

    Obito is a fodder Uchiha, Itachi is a genius above all others, even among the Uchiha.
    Itachi mastered his Sharingan and had the MS Sharingan when Obito just activated his normal Sharingan.

    Do not compare a fodder to a genius like Itachi.
     
         
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    Re: Misconception: Obito has always been stronger than Itachi

    i dont care who would beat who......Itachi is a known good guy now.....and known good guys from time to time
    mostly need someone else's help....even if they dont really need it.....
    Obito probably could kill Itachi......i guess he definately can kill Itachi ........but
    Itachi could also beat him......Itachi could also beat anyone(kinda) including Minato.......
    although they could beat each other in a death match....
    Itachi could transform into a crow and let himself get sucked into Kamui(looking for a weakness)
    he could implant amateratsu inside there attached to something and Obito could fall for it.
    Minato could slip behind itachi with FTG but Itachi's clone could surface and catch Minato in TSUKUYOMI....
    nevermind Itachi is too smart for Obito in battle......
     
         
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    Re: Misconception: Obito has always been stronger than Itachi

    this should be obvious to all... sadly it is not. Obito got a very good deal with Itachi- help with killing off the uchiha, help with capturing the bijuu, all for not attacking Sasuke and Konoha, while Sasuke eliminated Itachi for him and left him free to manipulate Sasuke and let Pain loose on Konoha when the time came to seal the kyuubi last. plus Obito knew all about Itachi and it seems Itachi didn't know anything about Obito. he has absolutely nothing on him- tsukuyomi is useless, amaterasu even in a sneak attack failed, susanoo is a waste of stamina vs intangibility and itachi can't escape the warp.
     
         
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    Re: Misconception: Obito has always been stronger than Itachi

    You can't kamui when you are genjutsu'd. Itachi wins, mid diff.
     
         

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    Re: Misconception: Obito has always been stronger than Itachi

    dont agree^^ but never the less nice thread. rep for effort^^
     
         

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    Re: Misconception: Obito has always been stronger than Itachi

    . . .Aaaaand in a few minutes we'll have a response thread.
     
         

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    Re: Misconception: Obito has always been stronger than Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by GiantShuriken View Post
    You can't kamui when you are genjutsu'd. Itachi wins, mid diff.
    This.
     
         

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    Re: Misconception: Obito has always been stronger than Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by GiantShuriken View Post
    You can't kamui when you are genjutsu'd. Itachi wins, mid diff.
    you must have missed the part where sasuke broke all itachi's genjutsu with a normal sharingan. or perhaps where obito genjutsud a perfect jinchuuriki and killed konan with one. unbelievable.
     
         

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    Re: Misconception: Obito has always been stronger than Itachi

    Someone like DrProof or Blaze Release could EASILY make a "MS Obito was weaker than Itachi" thread and make it look all nice and give great explanations. Then there'll be a bunch of "I agree" replies on that thread as well. This thread doesn't prove crap.
     
         

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    Re: Misconception: Obito has always been stronger than Itachi

    I'm a fan of both Itachi and Obito.

    nice thread
     
         

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    Re: Misconception: Obito has always been stronger than Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by ItachiLeeHatake View Post
    Someone like DrProof or Blaze Release could EASILY make a "MS Obito was weaker than Itachi" thread and make it look all nice and give great explanations. Then there'll be a bunch of "I agree" replies on that thread as well. This thread doesn't prove crap.
    Why are you so nervous?
     
         

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    Re: Misconception: Obito has always been stronger than Itachi

    The man truly had no reason to keep Obito alive. The fact that he waited until after his demise to attempt some sort of offensive flurry speaks volumes. Itachi, so committed to protecting both his brother and his village, would 'keep' a 'weaker' person like this alive? A shadow of his former self? Itachi would keep an evil like this in the world? lol right. The man was nervous. He didn't want to make a move. Obito's Senju boosted Sharingan sees through and outlasts any illusion, Kamui trolls any attack and warps with only a single touch.
     
         

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    Re: Misconception: Obito has always been stronger than Itachi

    ya know.........im starting to think since Itachi died so long ago now.....thats why people think
    everyone(not really) can beat him now....
    Itachi kept him alive so he could help with the entire uchiha clan massacre..
    and then because of the Akatsuki...
    Itachi vs Akatsuki would be suicide

    Itachi could kill every akatsuki member one on one... and thats that
     
         
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    Re: Misconception: Obito has always been stronger than Itachi

    Obito would bang Itachi, it's about time these fanboys dealt with it. A mere 3T Sasuke broke Tsukuyomi, and you think a fully fledged MS master would get one shot with genjutsu? GTFO.
     
         
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    Re: Misconception: Obito has always been stronger than Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by godzillard View Post
    ya know.........im starting to think since Itachi died so long ago now.....thats why people think
    everyone(not really) can beat him now....
    Itachi kept him alive so he could help with the entire uchiha clan massacre..
    and then because of the Akatsuki...
    Itachi vs Akatsuki would be suicide
    Well everyone else is still getting stronger, and he's dead.
     
         

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    Re: Misconception: Obito has always been stronger than Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by two fates View Post
    I agree
    Thanks

    Quote Originally Posted by Draphsin View Post
    What do you mean??...this doesnt sound ridiculous at all....:sy:

    This is one of those times where i actually agree with you, nice thread :y
    So it seems

    Quote Originally Posted by Baka Sennin View Post
    this should be obvious to all... sadly it is not. Obito got a very good deal with Itachi- help with killing off the uchiha, help with capturing the bijuu, all for not attacking Sasuke and Konoha, while Sasuke eliminated Itachi for him and left him free to manipulate Sasuke and let Pain loose on Konoha when the time came to seal the kyuubi last. plus Obito knew all about Itachi and it seems Itachi didn't know anything about Obito. he has absolutely nothing on him- tsukuyomi is useless, amaterasu even in a sneak attack failed, susanoo is a waste of stamina vs intangibility and itachi can't escape the warp.
    I also thought it was obvious, sadly it wasn't. Thanks for your reply anyway

    Quote Originally Posted by Noddy View Post
    The man truly had no reason to keep Obito alive. The fact that he waited until after his demise to attempt some sort of offensive flurry speaks volumes. Itachi, so committed to protecting both his brother and his village, would 'keep' a 'weaker' person like this alive? A shadow of his former self? Itachi would keep an evil like this in the world? lol right. The man was nervous. He didn't want to make a move. Obito's Senju boosted Sharingan sees through and outlasts any illusion, Kamui trolls any attack and warps with only a single touch.
    Exactly, i don't know why people can't see this tbh
     
         

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    Re: Misconception: Obito has always been stronger than Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by Bogard View Post

    Misconception number1: Obito said Itachi could have killed him if he knew his secret



    "Fortunately, i managed to keep a few secrets even from him... If i had not, i'd be dead right now"

    Why are people missing the right now Obito said? right now = at the present situation, so Obito obviously talking about what just happened at the moment,

    The premise you're using here is wrong.

    Here is what Obito said:



    If Itachi knew Obito's secret he'd be dead. It's just that simple. It has nothing to do with a specific point in time. Obito doesn't mention the "right now" part which you keep emphasing.
     
         

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    Re: Misconception: Obito has always been stronger than Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by CurseSealofEarth View Post
    Well everyone else is still getting stronger, and he's dead.
    thats the right answer..thanks kid..some people dont think the obvious..
    although Itachi still has skills/jutsu/tools that could remove anyone from battle...
     
         

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    Re: Misconception: Obito has always been stronger than Itachi

    Quote Originally Posted by Noddy View Post
    The man truly had no reason to keep Obito alive. The fact that he waited until after his demise to attempt some sort of offensive flurry speaks volumes. Itachi, so committed to protecting both his brother and his village, would 'keep' a 'weaker' person like this alive? A shadow of his former self? Itachi would keep an evil like this in the world? lol right. The man was nervous. He didn't want to make a move. Obito's Senju boosted Sharingan sees through and outlasts any illusion, Kamui trolls any attack and warps with only a single touch.
    Itachi was a spy, and had to stay in the shadows to spy on the Akatsuki, it wasn't clear who was the leader of Akatsuki, besides if he killed Obito, Nagato would have taken over without a doubt and Itachi had revealed his true identity for nothing. Simply logics, but you're noddy what to expect from both you and Bogard, Itachi haters.

    Itachi fodderizes any character.
     
         

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    Re: Misconception: Obito has always been stronger than Itachi

    i agree with this 100% sadly the itachi fanboys will disagree
     
         

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