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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 620 Discussion and 621 Predictions

    In other chapter it says that the third/minato is the strongest hokage.. I dont remember what manga chapter is that!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 620 Discussion and 621 Predictions

    The chapter was awesome.i'll give it a 4/5...waiting for hashi v madara
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 620 Discussion and 621 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by hariorh View Post
    Now some fanboys saying sasuke is stronger than Tobirama cuz of amaterasu... This guy has absolute control over water. He can create waves to wash off amaterasu within the blink of an eye. He also possesses S/T ninjutsu *dat we haven't seen yet*

    Also he is aware of the uchiha strengths, jutsus and weaknesses cuz of his age and experience just like madara.

    How can some toddlers just up and say Sasuke is stronger?
    I agree. No way Sasuke is stronger than tobirama. Though you can't simply wash off amaterasu with a waterjutsu. Amaterasu ain't that easy to counter ^^
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 620 Discussion and 621 Predictions

    This chapter was awesome. 5/5. Last chapter we saw Tobirama bossing around Hashirama and acting superior, then this chapter Tobirama is put in his place and we begin to see the true extent of Hashiramas power. Not only does he shut Tobirama up but his power alone nearly collapses the place. Not only that but he has already broken free of Oro's edo tensi bindings. He could literally just walk away right now lol. But now we will get to learn about the past, which is something that needs to be told. And with the very real chance that they enter the madara/obito/juubi fight... man these next few months are going to be EPIC.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 620 Discussion and 621 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by lcolells51 View Post
    I am kinda just a reader, and like the world of Naruto. But I am not up to date on everyone's powers and stuff, so sorry if I ask stupid questions or make reference or other errors. I merely just read cause it's cool.

    I am confused why Harashima is able to break free of the edo tensei, but Tobirama who is the creator can't? I feel like these chapters are to give the readers more into the lives of the 1 and 2 Hokage. We don't know much about them except that Harshima was the most powerful shinobi second maybe only to Madara?

    We are seeing how Tobirama was more of the war Hokage, kind of like the current Raikage. Harshima is shown to be this super loving, caring trying to find peace before war Hokage, something that all of the sensei's have been trying to teach their pupils. If Madara was able to break free, why can't Tobirama?

    Another thing, (I am not sure if somewhere it is mentioned) but the Third Hokage (or maybe someone else I am not sure) stated that once the soul is sealed into the Reaper Seal it can't come back. How are they back? And we are kind of seeing how strong each Hokage is, since that's what Oro and all the readers want to see. But perhaps, Minato is being quite, because since he was taught all the sealing jutsu's of the Uzimaki's he is coming up with a plan? Or he wants to know what the 1 and 2 are talking about. Perhaps he was sort of left in the dark because of his age, even for being a Hokage, the Second Mizukage stated that there was a lot of secrets between the mizukage's techniques in the Mist village.

    I mean, could we say that perhaps the Third Hokage is the weakest of them all?
    Granted we have only seen Minato's (the fourth) speed and skill with rasengan, space time, and seals, but maybe he is better than the writer has let on? If Harashima can break free, perhaps he is also secretly trying to break everyone else free?

    Is this edo tensei the same as Kabuto's where even though Kabuto lost control of Zabuza and Itachi, he could still "see" what they were doing? If Madara is back, and at full strength, and Senju is at full strength, after the story time for Sasuke, hopefully Harashima can come to the rescue of the Kages!

    I'd also like to see the strength of Tobirama, seeing as all we know is he was crazy good with water techniques (as seen in a weakened form in the origional resurrection during the Destruction of the Leaf), and didn't he control that lightning lightsaber sword? I'd like to see Hiruzen talk, or show some power.

    Didn't Oro even hint to letting the Kage's fight on the good side, (as well as threatening to destroy the leaf)? Do you think there is a chance to see Jiraya? I understand you need DNA, but are we really assuming the sneaky snake Orochimaru never got any? Do you think there will be one final every rival takes each other on? Like Harshima vs Madara, Minato vs (Obito?) or Hiruzen vs Orochimaru, Sasuke vs Naruto and Sakura, and someone versus Kabuto? Is anyone sure of who to be more worried about? Orochimaru with Senju-cells, and his arms back, a full power Madara? or a Kabuto? or seems to have some sort of back up every time?

    Are we getting towards the end of Naruto all together? With the older generation of the Ino, Shika, Cho, Neji, Anko, Yamato, I feel like the series is ending
    I am sorry I rambled on I just have a lot of questions and the World of Ninja is very interesting to me.
    Ok for your first question, Hashirama is the strongest ninja to ever live with the obvious exclusion of the SO6P. He is able to break the edo Tensi's bindings because Oro isn't strong enough to hold him down. He was revived at near full power so his immense chakra alone breaks them. Hell it nearly collapsed the building. Tobirama is extremely strong as well, but just not strong enough.

    Madara was able to discover the weakness in the edo tensi, and while tobirama is it's creator it has been stated that oro is the one who refined and completed it. It's like the rasengan, an epic jutsu but was unfinished. And just because you are it's creator does not mean that you also know it's weaknesses.

    The reason that Minato is being quiet is that he isn't the one who is being questioned... Sasuke is specifically asking the first. Minato wasn't around when hashi and tobirama were alive and the first actually has the experience so that is why he is the one talking.

    When it comes to powerscaling the kage its really a unique position. We know that Hashi is quite possibly the strongest ninja to ever live and that tobirama was also very powerful. Hiruzen was said to have mastered every jutsu in the leaf village, but we never really saw him fight in his prime. And his only fight we saw was him as an old man and honestly the powerscaling in part one is nowhere close to part two. we didn't have jinchurikis and EMS/Rinnegan users running around in part one. Then we have minato. We saw him own a young Obito and stop the ninetails and also fight killer bee. With what little knowledge we have of him we can say minato was an incredibly strong ninja. But really we can't compare the kages at the moment because just too little are known about them. And even if the third is the weakest of them, what does that really mean? The weakest of four of the strongest ninjas in konoha history?

    Jiraya is my all time favorite character, but no i don't want him to come back and its not possible. Kabuto stated at the beginning of this war that he could not collect jirayas dna because his body is at the bottom of an ocean and the pressure is too strong. I love jiraya, i just don't think bringing him back will do any good. Speaking of kabuto i don't think he'll be a key player anymore seeing as he has lost oro's dna. I don't think he himself is strong enough to do edo, which was his only real jutsu that was elite and certainly not strong enough to do sage mode.

    And as for your final question, kishi stated late last year that naruto will be around for likely another year and a half. So it should wrap up in around spring of 2014.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 620 Discussion and 621 Predictions

    Hmmmm. This was a great chapter not just in the 20 pages we read, but also what it means for the future. The moment I saw Orochimaru revived a couple months back, I knew there would be some way to get the Hokages back. It was also really refreshing to have Hashirama show such character and still be feared by all that come against him. I was a little confused with the Uchiha love thing? I still don't really get it 100%, but it's a new direction I didn't see coming, so I give 520 a 4/5!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 620 Discussion and 621 Predictions

    As a shinobi. He isn't saying itachi would beat him in a fight. He is only stating that he is a better shinobi or "tool" as Zabuzary said. Itachi was and is very loyal to the leaf village.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 620 Discussion and 621 Predictions

    Hi All, I'm just new here in NB and been reading the forums for at least 3-4 chapter. Can anyone explain to me why the Edo-Madara is a younger version, where in the past chapter he was old. Didn't he not died when Hashirama and Him fought. Isn't he the one who saved -Obito? and he really look old there. So why is the Edo-Madara is young and the Edo-Sarutobi (3rd Hokage) forgot his name is an old version. I know this isn't the place to ask. But pls. give me an answer. Thanks.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 620 Discussion and 621 Predictions

    Hashirama fanboys shouldn't get too happy.

    Naruto dreams of becoming the strongest Hokage Konoha has ever had. What's a better way of doing it than all previous Kages there? My opinion, all Kages will lose against Madara, with Naruto defeating him, proving he is the strongest shinobi ever?
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 620 Discussion and 621 Predictions

    Also Tobirama's S/T ninjutsu is inferior to Minato's. So it don't hype it up right now....
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 620 Discussion and 621 Predictions

    i loved this chapter this week!!!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 620 Discussion and 621 Predictions

    the ressurected allied shinobi kages (probably with bee), the previous hokages, taka and oro(probably with karin), naruto and the gang, tobi, madara and the juubi, (enlightened kabuto).... m do you smell what kishi is cookin?....i bet its something delicious...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 620 Discussion and 621 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by SiteSurvey View Post
    Hi All, I'm just new here in NB and been reading the forums for at least 3-4 chapter. Can anyone explain to me why the Edo-Madara is a younger version, where in the past chapter he was old. Didn't he not died when Hashirama and Him fought. Isn't he the one who saved -Obito? and he really look old there. So why is the Edo-Madara is young and the Edo-Sarutobi (3rd Hokage) forgot his name is an old version. I know this isn't the place to ask. But pls. give me an answer. Thanks.
    Well thats because kabuto modified back to his prime
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 620 Discussion and 621 Predictions

    I liked it, also i cant wait to see what sasuke's new power-[COLOR="#FF0000"][/COLOR]up will be he's long overdue for another
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 620 Discussion and 621 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by neji360vision View Post
    i feel like minato is planning something while everybody is talking. Anybody agree??
    I agree - minato is sometimes underestimated and that in part is where his strength lies...he looks like he's rather casual but quietly assesses the situation and makes a plan. For instance he already knew it was naruto/kyubi chakra mixed - while others jus felt a 'strong' chakra -but as far as the others are concerned he jus looked amazed by 1st hokages power...I'd love to see if he has a level 3 FTG ...jus picture it...comes at tobi with level 2 ftg and tobi is like...hmph I've gotten faster that's not going to work on me anymore...then he ups speed to level 3 ftg...prob. would never happen like that but it would be cool...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 620 Discussion and 621 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by lion fang master View Post
    Well thats because kabuto modified back to his prime
    I think what Kabuto meant by making him better was the fact he infused Hashi's cells into him... not bringing him back in his prime. I think that the EDO brings them back at the age they when when the cell samples were taken.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 620 Discussion and 621 Predictions

    Wood Release techniques can be produced from anywhere, including the user's body, as the user's chakra is literally converted into a source of life.

    Probably that's how the 1st was able to break free from endo tensi, with relative ease.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 620 Discussion and 621 Predictions

    I can tell.this is.going to over 9000 with the kage plus naruto and kurmama
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 620 Discussion and 621 Predictions

    Senju DNA
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 620 Discussion and 621 Predictions

    Jiraiya CAN BE revived by edo tensei. he had his blood printed (signature) on scroll (toad summonings ).
    just like naruto too.

    Jiraiya DNA is there in that blood print
     
         

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