Why Underrate Minato and Hiruzen....???? Especially Minato....

[Shouri Uchiha]

Now I have come across a lot of threads lately Saying....

Uchiha Boys > Minato and Hiruzen (Especially Minato)

I'm an Uchiha Clan Fan too.... you can simply understand that from my user name but I guess Many people are simply

under rating Hiruzen and Minato....

I don't know about Madara or Itachi but Minato can kick Obito and Sasuke's **** even if

Obito has a Rinnegan and Sasuke has a Perfect Susanoo....

Cause Minato is simply a Genius and he has worked hard to achieve the Power he wields....

I think he deserves more respect....

[partha420]

let them......that doesn't even matter.........

[Sabuto Hayashi]

Probably the biggest reason is that we haven't seen enough of Minato and Hiruzen's techniques to deem them 'powerful' enough to defeat certain characters, like Itachi or Obito.

For example, Rasengan doesn't appear to be strong enough to break Susano'o, and maybe would argue that FTG can be defeated by deflecting the kunai. Most simply state that genjutsu would be able to defeat the two, because neither of them have shown skill at breaking out of it.

If we're lucky, Edo Minato and Edo Hiruzen will show off some of their skills that will boost up their ratings.

[Green Beast Of Konoha]

Wait till we see edo hiruzen and minato in action

[ballerjordan]

agreed

[Serotonin]

Minato never defeated a top tier.

and 14 year old Obito with chains is not a top tier.

[YellowFang]

Heh, this can never be settled... Because Minato owned an Uchiha so bad that he couldn't even use his Uchiha powers properly...
So it's the reaction to that with an exuse that Uchiha didn't use it....

[two fates]

Agree ..

[★Nímbus]

It's all hype, we will see more of 3rd & 4th Hokages, not to mention 1st and 2nd!

[AGoodBoy]

There are 4 types of people;
Fanboys
Haters
And Insecure ones who don't want to seem like a fanboy
And rational people

Most people here fall in the top 3.

Idk about hiruzen. we've seen him and fight and lost to oro. I'm saying sasuke would kick his ass. Maybe not in his prime, since he was supposedly better than, but in his old age - sasuke wins.

Minato: Naruto is basically speed and rasengan. SM, KM, BM all mostly just bump up his speed so he can out maneuver his opponents. People call naruto the best for this (and well he is the main character anyway). Of coarse, I'm underplaying naruto a little since i don't want to go in depth with him (not a naruto thread). But minato has those 2 characteristics also; Rasengan and speed. Infact he is the fastest ninja out. Ontop of that he has barrier and sealing jutsu, and naruto in a critical area - brains. Yet, people say naruto will mop the floor with sasuke but minato will lose?

Minato died by plot-no-jutsu. Minato never lost a fight. Minato was revered by everyone. People see minato wipe out 50 people using FTG but yet they underplay it's power. People see FTG and FTG-2 and then assume minato is naruto version 2 - A one trick pony.
People need to stop under rating minato just because they don't want to fall in the hater group.

Side Note: I'm not saying minato is the best. He will lose to alot of people but come on, he isn't fodder. he isn't close to fodder. He probably even makes hiruzen look fodder (non prime hiruzen)

[Itachirules]

Minato and hiruzen can beat any uchiha except obito,Madara,itachi and sasuke and that's a might u never know how boss they are specially Minato xD

[AGoodBoy]

Probably the biggest reason is that we haven't seen enough of Minato and Hiruzen's techniques to deem them 'powerful' enough to defeat certain characters, like Itachi or Obito.

For example, Rasengan doesn't appear to be strong enough to break Susano'o, and maybe would argue that FTG can be defeated by deflecting the kunai. Most simply state that genjutsu would be able to defeat the two, because neither of them have shown skill at breaking out of it.

If we're lucky, Edo Minato and Edo Hiruzen will show off some of their skills that will boost up their ratings.

You can deflect kunai's all you want. If you try to open up and attack him, he'll attack back. If he ever touches you, you're tagged.

Minato never defeated a top tier.

and 14 year old Obito with chains is not a top tier.

You make it sound like he ever got defeated. He took on a hokage and a jinchuriki and walked away like it was nothing - they couldn't even stop him from leaving.

He severely damaged obito but had to port away to stop konoha from going up in flames

(Kakashi gaiden) He went to the front lines of war and killed 50 people on his own. The 4 guys that were with him, he told them to just randomly through kunai in the enemies direction.

He had a flee on sight order.

He has so much hype it's ridiculous. Why doesn't Iruka have this much hype? Why doesn't iruka have any hype? Because he was fodder. No one feared him. And he couldn't kill tonton to save his life. Stop being thick and trying to troll.

[Shouri Uchiha]

Minato and hiruzen can beat any uchiha except obito,Madara,itachi and sasuke and that's a might u never know how boss they are specially Minato xD

But aren't those four only the one's who are super strong....(Shisui and Izuna too are super strong)

[RasenUchihaChaos]

there wrong Konan and itachi would destroy minato they both quickly figure out his warp moves

[Shouri Uchiha]

there wrong Konan and itachi would destroy minato they both quickly figure out his warp moves

When did they even met him in the main manga....????
I dont know if it was in filler.... cause I dont watch filler episodes....

[RasenUchihaChaos]

When did they even met him in the main manga....????
I dont know if it was in filler.... cause I dont watch filler episodes....

i said would konan figur out obito kamui im sure with observation she firgure the best way to beat the hirashin i included itachi because he too can figure things out


now i admit mianto beats Itachiu only because of the hirashin without it then itachi has a good chance

[Shouri Uchiha]

respect and strength are two different things.

Stfu about hiruzen, everyone knows the dude is the weakest link.

Stfu about minato because people overate him soo much, until he breaks a susanno.

obito>>minato

The first fight was a fight on speed.

obito didnt use rinngenn,Ms,Woodstyle his strongest wepons,

Thats wat I wanted to show.... Just having powerful KKG's doesn't make you special.... I'm not over rating Minato.... But Minato is special cause he's worked hard be what he is....

[Shouri Uchiha]

i said would konan figur out obito kamui im sure with observation she firgure the best way to beat the hirashin i included itachi because he too can figure things out


now i admit mianto beats Itachiu only because of the hirashin without it then itachi has a good chance

Okay.... I got wat you wanted to say earlier.... :D

[RasenUchihaChaos]

Thats wat I wanted to show.... Just having powerful KKG's doesn't make you special.... I'm not over rating Minato.... But Minato is special cause he's worked hard be what he is....

i say rock lee

from what i seen minato only original moves are ftg and hirashin everything else he copied like an uchiha

wouldnt be suprised if he used the 2 latter from somone

[minatoisagod]

people just like to hate on strong characters man worse we haven't seen more jutsu from him and he hasn't been hyped in a while so its expected.