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      Naruto 620 Misconception.

      Some people have confused which brother aroused their chakra, it was both.



      If you look, MC Hashz arouses his chakra in response to MC Tobz arousing his own, in the next scene, they are standing off against each other, and Tobirama subdues because, they're causing Naka Shrine to almost collapse and because in Japanese culture, Hashirama being the elder gives him more authority over his younger siblings, and he overwhelmed Tobirama to remind him of this fact. This standoff is confirmed in the next page of the chapter:



      Hashirama goes on to say to his brother that he didn't need to arouse his chakra that much, link that back to the previous page where we see Hashirama had aroused his chakra too which means; they had stoodoff against each other.
       
           
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      Re: Naruto 620 Misconception.

      You are about a week late with that thread.
       
           

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      Re: Naruto 620 Misconception.

      Tobirama was the one who said there was no need to rouse the chakra levels.
       
           

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      Re: Naruto 620 Misconception.

      I recalled them both much cooler in their "sama" things compare to your hip-hop MC things.
       
           

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      Re: Naruto 620 Misconception.

      Quote Originally Posted by Noddy View Post
      Tobirama was the one who said there was no need to rouse the chakra levels.
      The speech bubble was undirected, so it was Hashirama.
       
           

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      Re: Naruto 620 Misconception.

      The next page has Hiruzen confirm it was Hashirama.


      It is later visually confirmed from the cracks originating solely from Hashirama


      Not saying that Tobirama wasn't about to do something big but the chakra thing was Hashi alone.
       
           

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      Re: Naruto 620 Misconception.

      Quote Originally Posted by BlacLord View Post
      The speech bubble was undirected, so it was Hashirama.
      The speech bubble was a continuation of the last one - Tobirama's '...'. I don't even know why you would link it to Shodai's. Hashirama was the one who spiked his chakra. Tobirama then said there was no need. Then Hashirama apologized.
       
           

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      Re: Naruto 620 Misconception.

      Well yeah
       
           

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      Re: Naruto 620 Misconception.

      As to the manga chapters, Hashirama just overpowered him, that's why Hiruzen was heart-pumped and the cracks were more prominently directed from Hashirama.
       
           

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      Re: Naruto 620 Misconception.

      Quote Originally Posted by Noddy View Post
      The speech bubble was a continuation of the last one - Tobirama's '...'. I don't even know why you would link it to Shodai's. Hashirama was the one who spiked his chakra. Tobirama then said there was no need. Then Hashirama apologized.
      Hashirama wasn't apologizing to Tobirama, he was apologizing to everyone else for the tension they created!
       
           

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      Re: Naruto 620 Misconception.

      Hashirama Senju caused the warping of Naka Shrine; later confirmed by Hiruzen Sarutobi. Tobirama's actions imply the use of a spike of chakra, which was refrained by his elder.
       
           
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      Re: Naruto 620 Misconception.

      Speech bubble wastowards Tobirama, Look at the small point referring to Tobirama.. which means
      Tobirama : You don't have to rouse your chakra so much...

      And Tobirama didn't shake the ground and walls, it was Hashirama trying to stop Tobirama.. Tobirama can't shake the ground all by himself
       
           

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      Re: Naruto 620 Misconception.

      Quote Originally Posted by BlacLord View Post
      Hashirama wasn't apologizing to Tobirama, he was apologizing to everyone else for the tension they created!
      I think you need to re-read these pages a couple times over & look at other scripts.
       
           

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      Re: Naruto 620 Misconception.

      Quote Originally Posted by Tragic Nous View Post
      Hashirama Senju caused the warping of Naka Shrine; later confirmed by Hiruzen Sarutobi.
      They both created the tension BUT Hashirama overwhelmed him. Otherwise, what would be the point of arousing his chakra? You actually think that Tobirama would be scared of his own brother? He aroused his chakra to overpower Tobirama and subdue him.
       
           

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      Re: Naruto 620 Misconception.

      Quote Originally Posted by Gatsuuga View Post
      The next page has Hiruzen confirm it was Hashirama.


      It is later visually confirmed from the cracks originating solely from Hashirama


      Not saying that Tobirama wasn't about to do something big but the chakra thing was Hashi alone.
      My belief also.
       
           

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      Re: Naruto 620 Misconception.

      Quote Originally Posted by Noddy View Post
      I think you need to re-read these pages a couple times over & look at other scripts.
      I think you need to think about it more. Why would Hashirama just start arousing his chakra like that? You think Tobirama thinks that his own brother would harm him? Or maybe you actually think that Tobirama is scared of him? He aroused his chakra in response to Tobirama in order to overwhelm him and subdue him.
       
           

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      Re: Naruto 620 Misconception.



      No way bro! This hasn't been covered a couple hundred times already.
      Gatsuuga and Noddy are correct by the way.
       
           

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      Re: Naruto 620 Misconception.

      lol looks like this is why there is misconception. the people are spreading it in their threads... claiming to rid the base of the same thing they spread...

      That chakra was Hashirama's
       
           

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      Re: Naruto 620 Misconception.

      Quote Originally Posted by BlacLord View Post
      I think you need to think about it more. Why would Hashirama just start arousing his chakra like that? You think Tobirama thinks that his own brother would harm him? Or maybe you actually think that Tobirama is scared of him? He aroused his chakra in response to Tobirama in order to overwhelm him and subdue him.
      No.

      Hashirama prioritized unbinding Sasuke from his internal troubles. Tobirama compromised Sasuke's safety by threatening to harm him; he raised his finger which indicates a Jutsu was about to be used. He was able to use his Suiryūdan no Jutsu with only one hand seal, when it typically requires 44. So him lifting a finger means he was about to unleash something. Then, Hashirama spiked his chakra in an attempt to intimidate his younger brother. I don't see what the problem is here. Nidaime was intimidated by this and he did proceed to do as Hashirama commanded.
       
           

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      Re: Naruto 620 Misconception.

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      No way bro! This hasn't been covered a couple hundred times already.
      Gatsuuga and Noddy are correct by the way.
      No, otherwise the whole thing would be pointless. You think the guy that willingly went into a battle where he knew he would die would be afraid of his own brother exciting his chakra? He did it to overwhelm Tobirama who was already arousing his chakra.
       
           

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      Re: Naruto 620 Misconception.

      Quote Originally Posted by Noddy View Post
      No.

      Hashirama prioritized unbinding Sasuke from his internal troubles. Tobirama compromised Sasuke's safety by threatening to harm him; he raised his finger which indicates a Jutsu was about to be used. He was able to use his Suiryūdan no Jutsu with only one hand seal, when it typically requires 44. So him lifting a finger means he was about to unleash something. Then, Hashirama spiked his chakra in an attempt to intimidate his younger brother. I don't see what the problem is here. Nidaime was intimidated by this and he did proceed to do as Hashirama commanded.
      In order to use jutsu, you clearly need chakra to be aroused. Nidai aroused his chakra in order to intimidate Sasuke, and yes, putting him in danger. Then, Hashirama proceeded to arouse his chakra beyond that of Tobirama, to subdue not intimidate. Hashirama is the older brother, in Japan, being the elder gives a sense of superiority and higher authority, something which Tobirama cannot contest, and so, Hashirama needed to remind him who's boss, essentially.
       
           

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      Re: Naruto 620 Misconception.

      Quote Originally Posted by BlacLord View Post
      No, otherwise the whole thing would be pointless. You think the guy that willingly went into a battle where he knew he would die would be afraid of his own brother exciting his chakra? He did it to overwhelm Tobirama who was already arousing his chakra.
      This whole page is about Hashirama



      This is the instant the chakra was aroused. this page has nothing to do with tobirama.

      Tobirama WAS ABOUT to spike his chakra, but was interrupted by Hashirama. Tobirama lifting a finger was a page before this. there was no indication that chakra levels had risen until hashirama took an action.
       
           

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      Re: Naruto 620 Misconception.

      Quote Originally Posted by Noobastank View Post
      This whole page is about Hashirama



      This is the instant the chakra was aroused. this page has nothing to do with tobirama.

      Tobirama WAS ABOUT to spike his chakra, but was interrupted by Hashirama. Tobirama lifting a finger was a page before this. there was no indication that chakra levels had risen until hashirama took an action.
      Look at the page before, the artwork suggests a very quick rise in tension, and it's certainly not sexual.
       
           

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      Re: Naruto 620 Misconception.

      http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/620/3 -> Tobirama rising his chakra.
      http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/620/4 -> Hashirama rising his chakra.

      So yeah, they have both rised their chakras, although its clear which brother is more powerful.
       
           

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      Re: Naruto 620 Misconception.

      Quote Originally Posted by Turson View Post
      http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/620/3 -> Tobirama rising his chakra.
      http://narutobase.net/manga/Naruto/620/4 -> Hashirama rising his chakra.

      So yeah, they have both rised their chakras, although its clear which brother is more powerful.
      Precisely.
       
           

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