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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 621 Discussion and 622 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Hiruzen Is Awesome View Post
    What a low down method of re wording my comment and adding your own spin in such a way I cant reply back to you with a quote Here are the facts:
    The battle was a let down in terms of the type of action and fighting used I preferred the fan made ideas actually.

    The flashback is going to be a typical rendition of all the other flash backs, which is madara is emotional - jealous and bitter, vs hashirama is care free, caring and loving. Seriously, how many times have we seen these comming?

    The battle itself was nothing more than Godzilla vs mecha godzilla ...Plus the whole third eye thing was a let down ...saw it coming I and I am waiting for when madara or obito grows thier 3rd eyes too I guess it will be the sharringan infused with rinnegan how lame.

    Next chapter will be a boring flashback of the two most overrated shinobi in the series. What happened to sasuke and naruto? answer the same that happens to madara and hashi. A silly rivalry gone way out of control.

    I will give this manga a break until we see some hokages and development in the war.

    I am a fan but this manga was a utter failure and let down sasuke is such a dummy for holding things up and to top it off were going to have to go through another flashback most likely when hashirama and madara meet again. If they meet at all at this pace.

    The chapter was so short I thought my pages were not loading properly. Go back and read the first 100 chapts and tell me these latest chapters are normal. No they are much shorter and filled with pointless large scale battles because of either lazyness or lack of vision. It does not feel like kishimoto is working anymore.

    I am not bitter or angry just sad that the biggest shinobi battle in history is nothing more than a glorified yu gi yo battle aka pokemon demon summoning showdown mixed with eastern philo lessons of hindu gods. I gave the last chapter a 4/5 but this has sunken to a 2/5 anybody giving this more than a 4 has lost my respect and does not know what good writing is. I hope people understand and speak up.

    I rather go back and read the battle with orochimaru vs hiruzen now that was epic!
    I rather minato vs tobito ! that was epic!!!
    I rather darui vs kinkaku and ginkaku that was epic!!
    I rather sasuke vs naruto !! that was epic !!!
    I rather itachi vs kakashi !! that was epic!!
    I rather kisame vs bee and gai !! that was epic !!
    I rather konan vs tobi!! that was epic!!
    I rather sound four vs the konoha 11! That was epic!!
    I rather chunnin exams ! That was epic !!
    I rather garra vs diedera! That was epic!!
    I rather team 7 vs haku and zabuza! that was eoic!!
    I rather the pain invasion vs the village ! That was epic!!!!!
    I rather Jiraiya vs pain! That was epic!!!!!!
    I rather sakura and chiyo sama vs sasori ! That was epic !!
    I rather sasuke vs Itachi !! That was epic!!
    I rather sasuke vs danzo! that was epic !!
    I rather naruto,tsunade and jiraiya vs orochimaru/kabuto showdown! That was epic!!
    I rather the ET kages vs the alliance ! that was epic !!
    This manga and the lame battle was the biggest let down ever for me !! and does not compare to the battles I mentioned!. How much is Kishi going to troll us with how strong madara and hashirma is already ????

    2/5 and I am being fair.
    Stop and look at the artwork that Kishi is producing. People need to stop talking about how short the chapter is. These pages are mostly double pages and it takes time to draw them. Then, people have to understand that he is showing how epic this battle is to show that it truly was on a SCALE that was bigger than anything. That is the purpose of these panels.

    Also, how much of a win would Hashirama had if Madara didn't control Kurama? It wouldn't have been close, so all of the Madara is close to Hashirama needs to stop this foolishness.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 621 Discussion and 622 Predictions

    hashirama's attack looks coolest
    you see its 3 times bigger than the nine tails with susano'o
    cant wait to see how he attacks .......
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 621 Discussion and 622 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by kyndig15145 View Post
    Stop and look at the artwork that Kishi is producing. People need to stop talking about how short the chapter is. These pages are mostly double pages and it takes time to draw them. Then, people have to understand that he is showing how epic this battle is to show that it truly was on a SCALE that was bigger than anything. That is the purpose of these panels.

    Also, how much of a win would Hashirama had if Madara didn't control Kurama? It wouldn't have been close, so all of the Madara is close to Hashirama needs to stop this foolishness.
    agreed.......................
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 621 Discussion and 622 Predictions

    I like how confident Madara is about the defence of his Susanoo when it was hit by a TBB..
    I like Hashirama's reaction when Madara seems to overpowe him...
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    I think Hashirama will somehow seal some of Madara's abilities using that HUGE thing..
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 621 Discussion and 622 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Dihajum3 View Post
    This is honestly quite ridiculous. Just looking at the sheer size of that thing makes me shudder. HOW THE F**K DID THIS MAN DIE ?!!
    his summon fell on him
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 621 Discussion and 622 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by God Itachi View Post
    Hashirama > Madara

    Edo Madara > Hashirama
    Agreed. Hashirama >= Madara
    Edo Madara > Hashirama

    Quote Originally Posted by kyndig15145 View Post
    How, Hashi will still beat Madara. He doesn't have the Kurami on his side now. He has his eye techniques, which don't work on him so how is he going to beat Hashi?

    Secondly, don't be surprised if Hashi can end up controlling his cells in these other people. His mokutou is awesome and he has huge chakras and a genuis.

    Edo Madara > Hashirama is crazy talk!!!!
    It's because of his Rinnegan, mainly

    Quote Originally Posted by kyndig15145 View Post
    Also, how much of a win would Hashirama had if Madara didn't control Kurama? It wouldn't have been close, so all of the Madara is close to Hashirama needs to stop this foolishness.
    No it still would of been close...if you'd pay attention to the manga, madara said "it's been a while since we've fought to the death" meaning they already went at each other with full force, yet both survived, here again both went at each other with full force, both survived. You do realise that Madara lost control of Kurama in this fight too? maybe Hashirama used Kurama against him once he took over it. I doubt that because of madara's eyes, so they would of been fighting 1 on 1, with no preps...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 621 Discussion and 622 Predictions

    hello guys! anyway, back to the point...
    the chapter was awesome but a bit short. how long does it take anyway for Kishi to draw around 15 pages of Naruto?
    sooo, i cant wait for the next chapter!!!
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 621 Discussion and 622 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Galactusss View Post
    But we don't know the circumstances behind Izuna's death. If Hashirama caused it, that would be Madara's motivation to attack. I have also entertained the theory that it had something to do with Tobirama wanting to get rid of the Uchiha. Tobirama might have mortally wounded Izuna, making it not directly Hashirama's fault. Instead, Madara's resulting anger would have overtaken the entire village. Therefore Hashirama still mentions Izuna because he had nothing to do with his death.

    The amount of possibilities excites me!!
    i think the same!
    maybe Tobirama has something to do with Izuna, for what Madara went crazy...
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 621 Discussion and 622 Predictions

    I enjoyed the chapter but its so short -_-
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 621 Discussion and 622 Predictions

    I predict that while Hashirama and Madara had their own rivalry, Izuna and Tobirama also had their own. I think that while Hashirama was the greatest of his rivalry, Izuna was stronger than Tobirama, which was the underlying factor to Tobirama's hate of the Uchiha clan. Think of the relationship between the two Senju and two Uchiha as a set of scales which maintains peace. If one of the walls falls as Izuna did, that balance of power is shifted.

    Madara would feel at a disadvantage, leading him to acquire power so that he could equal the Senju brothers to make up for the loss of Izuna.

    Oh, and I think that Hashirama was probably killed dishonorably. A shinobi so powerful and intelligent would not be killed so easy. I think he was probably poisoned by one of the Uchiha that remained in Konoha and carried the will of Madara.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 621 Discussion and 622 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by God Itachi View Post
    Hashirama > Madara

    Edo Madara > Hashirama
    The first one absolutely man yes. But the second one i think they need to get to the battle field first to come to
    that conclusion lol
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 621 Discussion and 622 Predictions

    I wonder how hashirama will react IF he sees edo-madara with his face on his chest lmao.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 621 Discussion and 622 Predictions

    I think Kishimoto really sold Hashirama well as being a "god" among shinobi with all of those crazy jutsus he pulled off! Awesome chapter! 5/5. :D
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 621 Discussion and 622 Predictions

    Kindly check the manga again, (http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/79184649/15) The shinsuusenju was way bigger than Kurama. I mean way bigger & definitely far more than 3 times bigger.
    Quote Originally Posted by sakethkrishna View Post
    hashirama's attack looks coolest
    you see its 3 times bigger than the nine tails with susano'o
    cant wait to see how he attacks .......
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 621 Discussion and 622 Predictions

    I have some burning question. Why did Madara not used Tsukyomi or Amaterasu during the fight? I Wonder how Hashirama would counter those 2 abilities cuz: 1st, you'd have to have the Sharingan to have a chance to counter Tsukyuomi. 2nd, you would need to have super speed (like raikage/minato) to counter Amaterasu. How would Hashirima counter those? So I think Madara isn't using those 2 abilities for some reason. Maybe his sole purpose is to steal Hashi's cells? Maybe in the end, Madara's death was merely a genjutsu that he cast to end the battle so he can quickly be on his marry way to go experiment with the cells? And do you guys remember Itachi stating that the EMS unlocks a "new 4th power" after susanoo? We haven't seen that 4th power yet neither. Maybe Kishi will finally reveal that 4th power as madara's final trumph card to counter the 1000 hands jutsu? If that's the case, then I'm really super excited to see what this power will be.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 621 Discussion and 622 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by SharinganWarrior View Post
    I have some burning question. Why did Madara not used Tsukyomi or Amaterasu during the fight? I Wonder how Hashirama would counter those 2 abilities cuz: 1st, you'd have to have the Sharingan to have a chance to counter Tsukyuomi. 2nd, you would need to have super speed (like raikage/minato) to counter Amaterasu. How would Hashirima counter those? So I think Madara isn't using those 2 abilities for some reason. Maybe his sole purpose is to steal Hashi's cells? Maybe in the end, Madara's death was merely a genjutsu that he cast to end the battle so he can quickly be on his marry way to go experiment with the cells? And do you guys remember Itachi stating that the EMS unlocks a "new 4th power" after susanoo? We haven't seen that 4th power yet neither. Maybe Kishi will finally reveal that 4th power as madara's final trumph card to counter the 1000 hands jutsu? If that's the case, then I'm really super excited to see what this power will be.
    We don't really know the extent of Hashirama's speed. Since his weaker younger brother had Space-Time jutsu, it's very likely that the older, more powerful brother also developed some kind of it. I would definitely not be surprised if Hasirama could open the 8 gates. And he can always just use his wood to block Amaterasu and then just throw it away from him like Gaara did with his sand.
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 621 Discussion and 622 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Galactusss View Post
    We don't really know the extent of Hashirama's speed. Since his weaker younger brother had Space-Time jutsu, it's very likely that the older, more powerful brother also developed some kind of it. I would definitely not be surprised if Hasirama could open the 8 gates. And he can always just use his wood to block Amaterasu and then just throw it away from him like Gaara did with his sand.
    I honestly think each member of the Uchiha clan develop different powers maybe he doesn't know it...Jus cuz the clan has the Sharingan doesn't mean they all have the same abilities. We still as of yet have seen Madara use Tsukyomi or Amaterasu if i'm not mistaken.
     
         
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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 621 Discussion and 622 Predictions

    Naruto and Sasuke would have destroy that giant 1000 arm giant
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 621 Discussion and 622 Predictions

    Quote Originally Posted by Yin Susanoo View Post
    Naruto and Sasuke would have destroy that giant 1000 arm giant
    no, just no
     
         

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    Re: Naruto Manga Chapter 621 Discussion and 622 Predictions

    But what if sasuke get the kurama yin chakra and use it on the susanoo and fuse it with naruto bijuu mode fox the ultimate beast
     
         

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