ems is clearly of more efficience than rinnegan

[uchiha gwin]

we all know that rinnegan is the highest level of visual prowess. but not aymore. there are facts that proof ems can be of more efficiency than rinnegan.1. ems has more capabilities in controlin a bijuu.e.g when madara control the kyuubi when facing hashirama and obito who took control of kyuubi during naruto's birth. whereas in the case of rinnegan. chibaku tensei is used.(ref) to nagato when he used it againts naruto in naruto anime 166. chibaku tensei was not powerful eough to control kyuubi. 2. defence approach. ems uses most likeky susano as its defence.mw susano can be manipulated in such a form that a user can use susano to guard againts any other living being e.g in the case of uchiha madara usin susano as armour to protect kyuubi(ref) manga epi 620.also itachi usin susano as an assault in sealins nagato(ref)anime epi 299. whereas rinnegan requires the use of shinra tensei which consumes a lot of chakra and is due for usage again in the next 5 min. it causes the other paths to lose power also showin that ems source of defence is better than rinnegan. 3. wide range of vision. rinnegan though powerful has a weakness in sight such as its blind spot. we have itachi countering a rinnegan black spot ref to anime 299. rinnegan doesnt has a good vision that it require other paths to help the main path visualize properly whereas sharingan has wider range of vision by manipulating nature elements like wind and earth. with these and many other points i didnt mention it shows that ems is of more efficient than rinnegan. in case u are new to nb ems stands for eternal magnekyo sharingan. hav fun reading from ur upcoming sage(gwin) [IMG]images[/IMG]

[Twin Steps]

what? This again?

[rikerslade]

They each have haxed powers. In my opinion, they are both equally efficient.

[Minato of Konoha]

Off topic - I also find it easier and more exciting to read a paragraphed thread

I do agree that EMS is more efficient/useful but it burns far too much chakra too quick

[chad062388]

they both are powerful eyes, who cares which eye is more efficient.

[★Sir Derp Obito]

It depends upon the wielder

[esenn1]

lol. stealing my thread :D just look at my thread a few threads down thins one (title: which one is more effective?) my god

[Zenky]

they both are powerful eyes, who cares which eye is more efficient.

lol, 90 % of the people in NB is a fanatic so, most of the site cares

and yep.. i agree with this:

It depends upon the wielder

[Sage of all Shinobi]

We haven't seen all the capabilities of the Rinnegan yet, while in EMS its about as strong as a Sharingan will ever achieve. But the fact is Rinnegan is the most powerful out of the 3 great dojutsu, ask Kishi if you don't agree.

[nj tandi]

Oh, so according to you, Susanoo doesn't use a lot of chakra but Shinra tensei does. LOL.

And that 5 minute break in shinra tensei usage was because it was a really big one and because it was basically a puppet using it, not the original wielder of the rinnegan.

With rinnegan you can make as many summons as you want, so that's range of vision covered.And sharingan is not Byakugan, it does not have a wide field of vision, just high perceptive ability in the normal range of vision it posseses.

Itachi using Susanoo to seal Nagato does not prove anything. That was acuse he had the sword of Totsuka, not becuase he had ms. Sasuke has EMS, forget MS. Could he do that? NO. Your point is invalid.

How the HELL does ems get a wider field of vision by manipulating elements like wind and earth?What the fish you talking bout?That is just STUPID.

FYI, you van use shinra tensei for defence too.Nagato was using it through another body, that's why it was weaker. Imagine Madara using Shinra tensei. Rinnegan is better for defence. I f you want you can summon some summons to block the attack, like Pein did with Jiraya.

You can PULL OUT A PERSON'S SOUL BY TOUCHING them. Now that might have been killed by the plot, but that is one haxed ability.

Hardly any of your points prove anything, though I'll give you bijuu controlling one, and the susanoo coverage one, though whether a final susanoo or full power shinra tensei would provide better protection against, say a tailed beast bomb, is debatable.

[Tensei]

let's use Pokemon logic here folks, Sharingan Evolved into MS/EMS, MS/EMS Evolved into Rinnegan! Therefore rinnegan has better stats then EMS/MS and CAN KEEP THE MOVES OF THE PREVIOUS, (nagato is not an uchiha and only rinnegan were implanted into his head, if he started with a sharingan and it "evolved" than he would have those abilities as well, Naruto=Pokemon, stats>cool looks)

[Draphsin]

seriously..........?

An awakened rinnegan user will have all of the abilities of his ems..................which means rinnegan>>>>>ems

An implanted rinnegan (ie. nagato's case) still holds more versatility than ems. And Nagato's CBT was cast while he was on his deathbed so that point concerning kurama is irrelevant.

[uchiha gwin]

i didnt steal yours. who the hell are you. moron

[Sp3Ed1i]

It depends upon the wielder

^only this. It doesnt matter what eye you possess. It matters on how you use it.

[Thundercles]

we all know that rinnegan is the highest level of visual prowess. but not aymore. there are facts that proof ems can be of more efficiency than rinnegan.1. ems has more capabilities in controlin a bijuu.e.g when madara control the kyuubi when facing hashirama and obito who took control of kyuubi during naruto's birth. whereas in the case of rinnegan. chibaku tensei is used.(ref) to nagato when he used it againts naruto in naruto anime 166. chibaku tensei was not powerful eough to control kyuubi. 2. defence approach. ems uses most likeky susano as its defence.mw susano can be manipulated in such a form that a user can use susano to guard againts any other living being e.g in the case of uchiha madara usin susano as armour to protect kyuubi(ref) manga epi 620.also itachi usin susano as an assault in sealins nagato(ref)anime epi 299. whereas rinnegan requires the use of shinra tensei which consumes a lot of chakra and is due for usage again in the next 5 min. it causes the other paths to lose power also showin that ems source of defence is better than rinnegan. 3. wide range of vision. rinnegan though powerful has a weakness in sight such as its blind spot. we have itachi countering a rinnegan black spot ref to anime 299. rinnegan doesnt has a good vision that it require other paths to help the main path visualize properly whereas sharingan has wider range of vision by manipulating nature elements like wind and earth. with these and many other points i didnt mention it shows that ems is of more efficient than rinnegan. in case u are new to nb ems stands for eternal magnekyo sharingan. hav fun reading from ur upcoming sage(gwin) [IMG]images[/IMG]

This is perhaps the worst, unintelligible thread I have ever read. Wall of text + poor English grammar. Also, how does the Sharingan get a "wider range of vision" from "manipulating nature elements like Wind and Earth"? This is just inexcusable.

[Lankeysob]

Oh, so according to you, Susanoo doesn't use a lot of chakra but Shinra tensei does. LOL.

And that 5 minute break in shinra tensei usage was because it was a really big one and because it was basically a puppet using it, not the original wielder of the rinnegan.

With rinnegan you can make as many summons as you want, so that's range of vision covered.And sharingan is not Byakugan, it does not have a wide field of vision, just high perceptive ability in the normal range of vision it posseses.

Itachi using Susanoo to seal Nagato does not prove anything. That was acuse he had the sword of Totsuka, not becuase he had ms. Sasuke has EMS, forget MS. Could he do that? NO. Your point is invalid.

How the HELL does ems get a wider field of vision by manipulating elements like wind and earth?What the fish you talking bout?That is just STUPID.

FYI, you van use shinra tensei for defence too.Nagato was using it through another body, that's why it was weaker. Imagine Madara using Shinra tensei. Rinnegan is better for defence. I f you want you can summon some summons to block the attack, like Pein did with Jiraya.

You can PULL OUT A PERSON'S SOUL BY TOUCHING them. Now that might have been killed by the plot, but that is one haxed ability.

Hardly any of your points prove anything, though I'll give you bijuu controlling one, and the susanoo coverage one, though whether a final susanoo or full power shinra tensei would provide better protection against, say a tailed beast bomb, is debatable.

Nope, I wouldn't even give him that one. It still appears that the Rinnegan is needed in summoning and controlling the juubi. All of this person's points are pretty much moot. :/

[EternalKaze7]

Another useless thread. If Kishi never said this was the case than how must you assume this. Everyone unlocks the Rinnegan after the EMS, but I think I understand your point that Pain was almost like a statue just standing back wasting his chakra. But look at Madara; he has rinnegan as well as Perfect Susanoo and it works because HE IS AN UCHIHA. Madara's rinnegan was Nagato's and Nagato couldn't use it to it's full potential because he was not born as an Uchiha with a sharingan. You should change thread name to: why Madara is more efficient with rinnegan than Nagato; because it's his damn eyes LOL.

[Horidora Chan]

we all know that rinnegan is the highest level of visual prowess. but not aymore. there are facts that proof ems can be of more efficiency than rinnegan.1. ems has more capabilities in controlin a bijuu.e.g when madara control the kyuubi when facing hashirama and obito who took control of kyuubi during naruto's birth. whereas in the case of rinnegan. chibaku tensei is used.(ref) to nagato when he used it againts naruto in naruto anime 166. chibaku tensei was not powerful eough to control kyuubi. 2. defence approach. ems uses most likeky susano as its defence.mw susano can be manipulated in such a form that a user can use susano to guard againts any other living being e.g in the case of uchiha madara usin susano as armour to protect kyuubi(ref) manga epi 620.also itachi usin susano as an assault in sealins nagato(ref)anime epi 299. whereas rinnegan requires the use of shinra tensei which consumes a lot of chakra and is due for usage again in the next 5 min. it causes the other paths to lose power also showin that ems source of defence is better than rinnegan. 3. wide range of vision. rinnegan though powerful has a weakness in sight such as its blind spot. we have itachi countering a rinnegan black spot ref to anime 299. rinnegan doesnt has a good vision that it require other paths to help the main path visualize properly whereas sharingan has wider range of vision by manipulating nature elements like wind and earth. with these and many other points i didnt mention it shows that ems is of more efficient than rinnegan. in case u are new to nb ems stands for eternal magnekyo sharingan. hav fun reading from ur upcoming sage(gwin) [IMG]images[/IMG]

Don't forgert that the rinnegan Nagato had was a mutation and i think that was not the full power of rinnengan

[iSpeak]

seriously..........?

An awakened rinnegan user will have all of the abilities of his ems..................which means rinnegan>>>>>ems

An implanted rinnegan (ie. nagato's case) still holds more versatility than ems. And Nagato's CBT was cast while he was on his deathbed so that point concerning kurama is irrelevant.

Simply this.