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    The difference between Kakashi and Obitos MS tech...

    I have't been able to tell the actual difference between both. My guess is that, Kakashi's MS tech can be used from afar while Obito needs to be in contact with you first. I may be wrong but feel free to correct me.

    P.S. I'd also like to know if they are both called Kamui. I remember the first time Obito revealed his MS, he said something like "the true power of kamui" The question here is, if they were seperated for a while, how did they both know it was called kamui?
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Kakashi and Obitos MS tech...

    The name itself is trivial.
    And the only difference is how they use kamui.
    It is one justu with versatile use.
    We can no longer say one uses it for offensive and the other defensive since obito has now used kamui to transport large shurkien and to warp a katon justu to large proportions and after battling obito for quite some time kakashi has begun to copy some of the very same aspects that were thought to be something only obito can do.This is backed up by the fact obito wasn't surprised when kakashi came back from the other dimension,because he knew it was only a matter of time.
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Kakashi and Obitos MS tech...

    its the same technique.
    Obito can do it from afar too.
    The thing why tobi uses it different then kakashi (slipping true objects) is just because kakashi hasn't got full control over it
    since he lacks the uchiha blood.

    Since its the same mangekyou eye Obito knew that kakashi would have the same mangekyou technique
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Kakashi and Obitos MS tech...

    Thanks bro. This makes me question whether Obito would have had susano if he didn't give his eye to kakashi. I just read a couple of threads some minutes ago talking about how one can get susano and some say it is only those who posses amaterasu and tsukoyomi (forgive my spelling) that can acquire such power. But yet we see Madara using it and he still hasn't shown any sign of amaterasu
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Kakashi and Obitos MS tech...

    Only those who awaken the power of both eye can awaken susanoo,







    did it say amaterasu and tsukiyomi ?
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Kakashi and Obitos MS tech...

    Quote Originally Posted by Narutoga View Post
    Only those who awaken the power of both eye can awaken susanoo,







    did it say amaterasu and tsukiyomi ?
    i'm not the one that said it, i only said i read it on a thread.
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Kakashi and Obitos MS tech...

    Quote Originally Posted by psycodrrama View Post
    i'm not the one that said it, i only said i read it on a thread.
    read what on a thread kiddo
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Kakashi and Obitos MS tech...

    Isn't Obito's the KIND OF reverse of Kakashi's? Because if he had both his eyes it would kind of work like that anyway. Obito can use it on himself while Kakashi can use it on objects from afar.
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Kakashi and Obitos MS tech...

    Quote Originally Posted by psycodrrama View Post
    Thanks bro. This makes me question whether Obito would have had susano if he didn't give his eye to kakashi. I just read a couple of threads some minutes ago talking about how one can get susano and some say it is only those who posses amaterasu and tsukoyomi (forgive my spelling) that can acquire such power. But yet we see Madara using it and he still hasn't shown any sign of amaterasu
    Susano'o is said to be rare, even for MS (which is also rare).. However, I do think it depends on DNA and interlocked eyes (as far as powers go) anyway. So it makes sense that Madara, Itachi, and Sasuke have it. It is very possible that Obito could have had it if he had both eyes.. but it's so hard to say since it's been stated it's so rare in the manga. (not sure where, google what page it's on).
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Kakashi and Obitos MS tech...

    Quote Originally Posted by The Paradox View Post
    Susano'o is said to be rare, even for MS (which is also rare).. However, I do think it depends on DNA and interlocked eyes (as far as powers go) anyway. So it makes sense that Madara, Itachi, and Sasuke have it. It is very possible that Obito could have had it if he had both eyes.. but it's so hard to say since it's been stated it's so rare in the manga. (not sure where, google what page it's on).
    OMG i just thought something........maybe since Obito nevermind.......idk
    both eyes: Madara,Itachi,Sasuke---- susanoo, tsukuyomi(sasuke kinda has it not strong),amateratsu(not yet Madara's)
    both eyes:Shisui----Kotoamatsukami
    1eyebito,Kakashi-------different Kamui(Kamui means something in Japan=so the name is based off the move's ability-same name)
    some have there own special ability....
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Kakashi and Obitos MS tech...

    Quote Originally Posted by BREAKD View Post
    its the same technique.
    Obito can do it from afar too.
    The thing why tobi uses it different then kakashi (slipping true objects) is just because kakashi hasn't got full control over it
    since he lacks the uchiha blood.

    Since its the same mangekyou eye Obito knew that kakashi would have the same mangekyou technique
    Where has it been shown that Obito can use it from afar as well? He has been shown to warp things he is touching and slip himsel and others in and out of the dimension. Kakashi has shown long range warping and being able to pull himself out of the dimension.
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Kakashi and Obitos MS tech...

    Quote Originally Posted by foxyladyland View Post
    read what on a thread kiddo
    a bunch of people arguing about how you attain susano. some say you need both powers of your MS techs while others are more specific on the techs being amaterasu and tsukoyomi (forgive my spelling, if it's wrong)
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Kakashi and Obitos MS tech...

    Quote Originally Posted by psycodrrama View Post
    a bunch of people arguing about how you attain susano. some say you need both powers of your MS techs while others are more specific on the techs being amaterasu and tsukoyomi (forgive my spelling, if it's wrong)
    hey its okay kiddo ur alright... but since it hasnt been actually proven who knows..maybe u cant perform amateratsu with Rinnegan.
    It says in databook, and by Itachi that you need both Tsukuyomi and Amateratsu to get Susano'o
    but he proved it for himself but not everyone proved it... But maybe Shisui could do those 3 great Sharingan abilities
    and maybe he couldnt..maybe he could, he just didnt unlock them though....he didnt seem like a guy who would string out a battle....
    Itachi always looked into things..maybe Shisui didnt read the scrolls enough or something
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Kakashi and Obitos MS tech...

    Quote Originally Posted by Q of the Sharingan View Post
    Where has it been shown that Obito can use it from afar as well? He has been shown to warp things he is touching and slip himsel and others in and out of the dimension. Kakashi has shown long range warping and being able to pull himself out of the dimension.
    my thoughts exactly, i have never seen obito so a kamui from afar. i guess his is close range...
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Kakashi and Obitos MS tech...

    Quote Originally Posted by psycodrrama View Post
    my thoughts exactly, i have never seen obito so a kamui from afar. i guess his is close range...
    yeah obito kamui is close range
    kakashi is far away, or at least he could probably use it close up like he did with Pein's Needle
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Kakashi and Obitos MS tech...

    They are both called kamui.
    Obito's technique requires touch to wrap objects so we can call it a short range kamui.
    Kakashi on the other hand wraps objects that are within his visual field without requiring touch.He can wrap faraway objects (Deidara's hand) and thing that are close to him(Pain's needle).So Kakashi's kamui is more flexible and versatile when t comes to range.
    They are both able to get themselves in and out of kamui's dimension.
    Obito has used kamui to teleport from place to place through going in kamui dimension and reappearing in another place.Kakashi hasn't used kamui in that way, but I believe since he can get in/out from the kamui dimension he can also do it.
    I think that's pretty much all about kamui!
     
         
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    Re: The difference between Kakashi and Obitos MS tech...

    Quote Originally Posted by KonohanoAkuma View Post
    They are both called kamui.
    Obito's technique requires touch to wrap objects so we can call it a short range kamui.
    Kakashi on the other hand wraps objects that are within his visual field without requiring touch.He can wrap faraway objects (Deidara's hand) and thing that are close to him(Pain's needle).So Kakashi's kamui is more flexible and versatile when t comes to range.
    They are both able to get themselves in and out of kamui's dimension.
    Obito has used kamui to teleport from place to place through going in kamui dimension and reappearing in another place.Kakashi hasn't used kamui in that way, but I believe since he can get in/out from the kamui dimension he can also do it.
    I think that's pretty much all about kamui!
    thank you for making everything very easy to understand. + rep to you bro
     
         
    Last edited by psycodrrama; 02-28-2013 at 09:14 PM.

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    Re: The difference between Kakashi and Obitos MS tech...

    Quote Originally Posted by KonohanoAkuma View Post
    They are both called kamui.
    Obito's technique requires touch to wrap objects so we can call it a short range kamui.
    Kakashi on the other hand wraps objects that are within his visual field without requiring touch.He can wrap faraway objects (Deidara's hand) and thing that are close to him(Pain's needle).So Kakashi's kamui is more flexible and versatile when t comes to range.
    They are both able to get themselves in and out of kamui's dimension.
    Obito has used kamui to teleport from place to place through going in kamui dimension and reappearing in another place.Kakashi hasn't used kamui in that way, but I believe since he can get in/out from the kamui dimension he can also do it.
    I think that's pretty much all about kamui!
    Everything she said and obito also has the whole ability to become intangible as for the how do they both know its called kamui who knows maybe its automatic once you unlock mangekyo you know what its called just like you automatically know how to use it
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Kakashi and Obitos MS tech...

    Remember how Sasuke could send out Amateratsu with one eye and then with the other eye manipulate? I guess it's the same Obito can use it close range with ease and Kakashi can manipulate it with long range and areas
     
         

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    Re: The difference between Kakashi and Obitos MS tech...

    Only difference: Obito has the defensive eye, Kakashi has the Offensive Eye.
     
         

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