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    Re: Why is Tia Harribel 3 and Ulquiorra 4?

    Quote Originally Posted by Simple Math View Post
    the best thing you can come up with?
    And we saw he was stronger than stark an halibel..ulqiorra would never lose to kuroku shikai NEVER an he would never lose to hitsugiya NEVER
     
         

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    Re: Why is Tia Harribel 3 and Ulquiorra 4?

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    Kubo has already stated this himself so your opinion doesn't matter L
    Neither my Opinion matters to u ... Nor urs to me ... thats not a point =)

    If u claim any thing always try to post the proof ... I would like to see where he stated that ( maybe I overlooked ) ... can u tell me the chapter or manga page ....
    Other wise ur claim is a fail too ... thank you

    EDIT: and on a side note .. what I tried to say there is .. The second release form of Ulq has a unique and powerful reiatsu .. sorry I dint mention second release there ...

    If Aizen dint know about second release then he dont know about the reiatsu level of second release ... and as u considering Ulq's words there ( posted a page ) .. So according to Ulq Aizen dint know his second release =)
     
         
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    Re: Why is Tia Harribel 3 and Ulquiorra 4?

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    Halibel was #3 because she as stronger than him...

    Segunda Etapa made him powerful, but people need to quit hyping that shit up. Any of the top three Espada could have killed Ichigo like Ulquiorra did:
    http://www.mangapanda.com/94-803-5/b...apter-349.html
    http://www.mangapanda.com/94-803-6/b...apter-349.html (Yeah...he's basically dead.)
    Just because he did it first makes no difference. Even with SE Ulquiorra wouldn't be able to kill Stark, Barragan, or Halibel. He may have a good fight with Halibel and pull an upset, but that's about it.

    People think they can use Ulquiorra vs Ichigo to compare him to Stark, Barragan, and Halibel. Uhh no. Think again.
    Stark was the most overrated and heartless espada of them all, when they fight got tough he just laid there died. Halibel was boring to watch Aizen tried to kill her him self because he was tired of seeing the so-called third strongest espada having such a hard time with a child captain and a knock off arrancard. The only espade that may beat Ullquiorra would be Barragan.
     
         

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    Re: Why is Tia Harribel 3 and Ulquiorra 4?

    Quote Originally Posted by the last shinobi View Post
    Stark was the most overrated and heartless espada of them all, when they fight got tough he just laid there died. Halibel was boring to watch Aizen tried to kill her him self because he was tired of seeing the so-called third strongest espada having such a hard time with a child captain and a knock off arrancard. The only espade that may beat Ullquiorra would be Barragan.
    It's pointless to try an explain to him he just don't understand.
     
         

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    Re: Why is Tia Harribel 3 and Ulquiorra 4?

    Quote Originally Posted by kotoamatsukami View Post
    It's pointless to try an explain to him he just don't understand.
    lol...and this is coming from you?
     
         

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    Re: Why is Tia Harribel 3 and Ulquiorra 4?

    So? Do you honestly think Kyoraku and Ukitake were trying either? The only ones that gave him a hard time were Love and Rose. Now I admit he's strong because he stood up against four captain level opponents but I still think Starrk didn't live up to his name because if Ulquiorra who is supposedly the 4th Espade could destroy a hollowfied Bankai ichigo effortlessly in his first ressurecion, shouldn't the Primera Starrk been able to just kill em all off easily as well? Also note Ichigo in Bankai has 2x reiatsu then other captains using Bankai. But, Starrk easily lost, that's why he doesn't live up to the title of Primera
     
         

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    Re: Why is Tia Harribel 3 and Ulquiorra 4?

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    lol...and this is coming from you?
    Yea it's funny you think halibel is stronger than ulqiorra when she was having a hard time fighting Lisa 1on1 while hitsugiya was arguing with that one girl..where as bankai hollowfide ichigo get raped by ulqiorra first release as soon as the fight started...now I kno Lisa is not stronger than ichigo o hell naw MAIN.
     
         

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    Re: Why is Tia Harribel 3 and Ulquiorra 4?

    Quote Originally Posted by kotoamatsukami View Post
    Yea it's funny you think halibel is stronger than ulqiorra when she was having a hard time fighting Lisa 1on1 while hitsugiya was arguing with that one girl..where as bankai hollowfide ichigo get raped by ulqiorra first release as soon as the fight started...now I kno Lisa is not stronger than ichigo o hell naw MAIN.
    Last time I checked, Halibel was just playing around with a masked Lisa. In fact, she never sustained any critical injuries from any of those 3 (Hitsugaya, Hiyori, and Lisa) AT ALL during the duration of their fight. She was easily playing with them until she got trolled by Aizen. Simple as that.
     
         

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    Re: Why is Tia Harribel 3 and Ulquiorra 4?

    maybe it's a chick thing, i mean nel was once a 3. but i was a little disappointed with stark and harribel, barrigan was pretty bad ass tho, especially after seeing ulq's power
     
         

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    Re: Why is Tia Harribel 3 and Ulquiorra 4?

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    Last time I checked, Halibel was just playing around with a masked Lisa. In fact, she never sustained any critical injuries from any of those 3 (Hitsugaya, Hiyori, and Lisa) AT ALL during the duration of their fight. She was easily playing with them until she got trolled by Aizen. Simple as that.
    Naw she won't playing trust me..Lisa did not get injured ether so what you saying an Lisa did not even release her sword yet smh poor halibel.
     
         

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    Re: Why is Tia Harribel 3 and Ulquiorra 4?

    Quote Originally Posted by kotoamatsukami View Post
    Naw she won't playing trust me..Lisa did not get injured ether so what you saying an Lisa did not even release her sword yet smh poor halibel.
    The best you can say to counter him is "trust me"?
     
         
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    Re: Why is Tia Harribel 3 and Ulquiorra 4?

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    The best you can say to counter him is "trust me"?
    I kno she won't playing around she had no reason to that's why aizen offed her because she was weak.
     
         

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    Re: Why is Tia Harribel 3 and Ulquiorra 4?

    There is only one reason why Stark lost, its because he's afraid of solitude and when he saw his comrades die he lost focus and therefore defeated.

    Actually Ulquiorra deserved number 4 even with second release.
     
         

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    Re: Why is Tia Harribel 3 and Ulquiorra 4?

    Quote Originally Posted by AfricanProdigy View Post
    Ulquiorra should be the Primera because even in his unreleased state, he could easily handle a hollowfied Ichigo using Bankai, albeit minor sword damage and cracks. Plus he has a second transformation. Personally I'd also pit Halibel at Segunda: Starrk sucked major ass against Kyoraku, Rose and Love and IDC if he wasn't trying at all, when you're the Primera you gotta live up to the title and obviously he didn't.
    Pleas tell me how Ulquiorra can fire millions of Cero's in a matter of seconds.
     
         

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    Re: Why is Tia Harribel 3 and Ulquiorra 4?

    Quote Originally Posted by kotoamatsukami View Post
    Naw she won't playing trust me..Lisa did not get injured ether so what you saying an Lisa did not even release her sword yet smh poor halibel.
    If I recall she and Hiyori used their shikai against Halibel. You're underestimating her power too much.
     
         

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    Re: Why is Tia Harribel 3 and Ulquiorra 4?

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    If I recall she and Hiyori used their shikai against Halibel. You're underestimating her power too much.
    Naw I believe Lisa only used shikai vs aizen...lOl what power she did nothing but lose...she did look kinda strong fighting one of the weakest captians thoe.
     
         
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    Re: Why is Tia Harribel 3 and Ulquiorra 4?

    Quote Originally Posted by Horidora Chan View Post
    There is only one reason why Stark lost, its because he's afraid of solitude and when he saw his comrades die he lost focus and therefore defeated.

    Actually Ulquiorra deserved number 4 even with second release.
    wonderwisse was his power once he died stark had no chance at winning lol what you talking bOut?..ulqiorra deserves to be number two we seen he is stronger than stark barrgan should be number 1 or zero
    Quote Originally Posted by Stencil View Post
    Pleas tell me how Ulquiorra can fire millions of Cero's in a matter of seconds.
    thoes cero are nonthing compared to ulqiorra green power stick thing I mean nothing.
    Ulqiorra was physically faster an stronger.
     
         

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    Re: Why is Tia Harribel 3 and Ulquiorra 4?

    Quote Originally Posted by kotoamatsukami View Post
    Naw I believe Lisa only used shikai vs aizen...lOl what power she did nothing but lose...she did look kinda strong fighting one of the weakest captians thoe.
    Hitsugaya one of the weakest Captains? He's a rare once-in-a-century (if not more) prodigy.


    Do you have any idea how fast Hitsugaya's growth rate is? He's been a Captain for less than ~30 years. We just saw in the last chapter that he was the previous 3rd seat. He became Captain within the last ~30 years and still Kyoraku, the new Captain Commander, said that in about 100 years he would surpass him - someone who's been a Captain for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years. You do nothing but underrate people to turn the outcome into what you want it to be. First Halibel, now Hitsugaya.

    You haven't given a single piece of compelling evidence to even sway us momentarily in your favor
     
         
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    Re: Why is Tia Harribel 3 and Ulquiorra 4?

    Well this is a strange debate

    Strength wise Yammy is the strongest
    Skill wise Starkk has probly the best skill
    Release form power goes to barragan
    Strongest cero goes to ulquiorra

    And tia I don't feel showed her full potential which we may get to see this arc.

    Oh I will go on the record to say this IMO if yoruichi was still a captain she would be the commander now.
     
         
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    Re: Why is Tia Harribel 3 and Ulquiorra 4?

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    Hitsugaya one of the weakest Captains? He's a rare once-in-a-century (if not more) prodigy.


    Do you have any idea how fast Hitsugaya's growth rate is? He's been a Captain for less than ~30 years. We just saw in the last chapter that he was the previous 3rd seat. He became Captain within the last ~30 years and still Kyoraku, the new Captain Commander, said that in about 100 years he would surpass him - someone who's been a Captain for hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years. You do nothing but underrate people to turn the outcome into what you want it to be. First Halibel, now Hitsugaya.

    You haven't given a single piece of compelling evidence to even sway us momentarily in your favor
    yea he will be one of the strongest but back when he was fighting halibel he was considered one of the weakest captians YOU HEARD ME!!!!..the evidence is in the fights she is not that strong she's strong but not that strong...lol ulqiorra would have raped all three of them in no time an you kno that EASY
     
         

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    Re: Why is Tia Harribel 3 and Ulquiorra 4?

    Quote Originally Posted by AfricanProdigy View Post
    So? Do you honestly think Kyoraku and Ukitake were trying either? The only ones that gave him a hard time were Love and Rose. Now I admit he's strong because he stood up against four captain level opponents but I still think Starrk didn't live up to his name because if Ulquiorra who is supposedly the 4th Espade could destroy a hollowfied Bankai ichigo effortlessly in his first ressurecion, shouldn't the Primera Starrk been able to just kill em all off easily as well? Also note Ichigo in Bankai has 2x reiatsu then other captains using Bankai. But, Starrk easily lost, that's why he doesn't live up to the title of Primera
    thats what im saying Ichigo is the stronger then most if not all the captains and No 4 jump on ichigo where starks had while number 1 had such a hard time with much weaker opponents
     
         

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    Re: Why is Tia Harribel 3 and Ulquiorra 4?

    Quote Originally Posted by kotoamatsukami View Post
    yea he will be one of the strongest but back when he was fighting halibel he was considered one of the weakest captians YOU HEARD ME!!!!..the evidence is in the fights she is not that strong she's strong but not that strong...lol ulqiorra would have raped all three of them in no time an you kno that EASY
    he is the weakest captain by far. and she was having such a tough time with him and the weak visor
     
         

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    Re: Why is Tia Harribel 3 and Ulquiorra 4?

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    Nah, Aizen knows all.
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    Re: Why is Tia Harribel 3 and Ulquiorra 4?

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    I'm not supposed to adv. I recommend you go read all Kubo's interviews, since everything he says are facts. if you're looking for the one I'm talking about, then it's called. arrancar visored namings.



    seriously, this is still just your own opinion.
    no that facts he would never lose to hitsugiya if he beat bankai ichigo...stark loss to a shikai wow lol.
     
         

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    Re: Why is Tia Harribel 3 and Ulquiorra 4?

    Ulquiorra might be stronger than some of the espadas above him, he did say during one of his last moves that he never showed it to Aizen. So Aizen hasn't seen his full strength.
     
         

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